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ar: هذا الموقع الرئيسي لنقاش ويكي مصدر ومكان طلب المساعدة. استخدم اللغات التي تعرف، وترجم ما ترغب.
bn: এটি উইকিসংকলনের বিষয়বস্তু ও সমস্যা নিয়ে আলোচনা করার একটি কেন্দ্রীয় আলোচনার স্থান। প্রয়োজন হলে সাহায্য চাইতে পারেন। আপনি যে ভাষা জানেন তাই ব্যবহার করতে পারেন ও অনুবাদ করতে পারেন।
de: Dies ist eine zentrale Stelle, um alle Themen um Wikisource zu diskutieren, und ein Platz, um nach Hilfe zu fragen. Benutzen Sie die Sprache(n), die Sie beherrschen, und übersetzen Sie, was Ihnen gefällt.
diq: No wikiçıme heta merselan war ardış u mınaqeşe kerdış i heta cay peşti waştışiyo.Zıwanê ke şıma zanê ê zımani dı iştıraq bıkerê u açarnayış seni beno bıumısê.
el: Αυτή είναι η κεντρική τοποθεσία για να συζητήσετε θέματα για τη Βικιθήκη, αλλά και το μέρος για να ζητήσετε βοήθεια. Χρησιμοποιήστε τη γλώσσα (ή τις γλώσσες) που γνωρίζετε και μεταφράστε αυτά που θέλετε.
fa: این مکان مرکزی برای بحث در مورد مسائل درباره ویکی‌نبشته و مکانی برای درخواست کمک است. از زبان (هایی) که می‌شناسید استفاده کنید و آنچه را دوست دارید ترجمه کنید.
en: This is the central location for discussing issues with Wikisource, and the place to ask for help. Use the language(s) you know, and translate what you like.
eo: Ĉi tio estas la centra loko por diskuti problemojn pri Vikifontaro, kaj la loko por serĉi helpon. Uzu la lingvo(j)n kiu(j)n vi konas, kaj traduku kion vi volas.
es: Este es el lugar central para discutir cualquier asunto de Wikisource y es el lugar para pedir ayuda. Use los idiomas que conozca, y traduzca lo que crea necesario que otros sepan.
fr: Ceci est la page principale pour discuter de ce qui a trait à Wikisource, et pour demander de l’aide. Utilisez la (ou les) langue(s) que vous connaissez, et traduisez ce qui vous plaît.
ga: Seo an lárnionad chun téamaí a bhaineann le Vicífhoinse a phlé, agus an áit inar féidir leat cabhair a iarraidh. Bain usáid as teanga ar bith dá bhfuil agat agus aistrigh cibé rud is mian leat.
gbm: इ च मझळु अड्डा विकीसोतु दगड़ मुद्दा बारा म छुंई लगाणु खुणी, अर ठाणु मदद मंगण खुणी. इस्तेमाल कारा उ भाखा ज्व तुमु बिंगुदौ, अर बदलाखरा जू च पसंद​।
he: זה הדף המיועד לדיונים העוסקים בוויקיטקסט, והמקום לפנות לעזרה. כתבו בשפות שתכירו, ותרגמו מה שתרצו.
hy: Սա Վիքիդարանի հետ կապված հարցերի քննարկման կենտրոնական վայրն է, որտեղ դուք կարող եք նաև դիմել հարցերով։ Օգտագործեք ձեր իմացած լեզուն(երը) և թարգմանե՛ք ի՜նչ կամենում եք։
io: Ita esas la centrala loko por diskutar problemi pri Wikifonto, e la loko por serchar helpo. Uzez la linguo/i quan vu parolas, e tradukar quon/in vu volas.
it: Questo è il luogo principale dove discutere di Wikisource, e il posto dove chiedere aiuto.Scrivi nella lingua che vuoi, puoi anche tradurre quello che vuoi.
ja: ここはプロジェクトについて議論したり、質問がある時に尋ねたりするための場所です。お望みの言語を使って書き込んで下さい。他の人の書き込みを翻訳して下さる方も歓迎です。
ko: 이곳은 위키문헌과 관련한 논의를 하는 주된 곳이자 도움을 구할 수 있는 곳입니다. 구사할 수 있는 언어를 사용하여 다른 내용을 마음껏 번역해 주시길 바랍니다.
my: ဤနေရာသည် ဝီကီရင်းမြစ်နှင့် ပတ်သက်သော ကိစ္စအဝဝအား ဆွေးနွေးရန်နှင့် အကူအညီများအတွက် မေးမြန်းရန် နေရာဖြစ်သည်။ သင်ကျွမ်းကျင်သော ဘာသာစကားကို အသုံးပြုနိုင်ပြီး သင်အလိုရှိရာကို ဘာသာပြန်နိုင်သည်။
nl: Dit is de centrale plek om elk onderwerp in Wikisource te bediscussiëren en de plaats om hulp te vragen. Gebruik de taal die je kent en vertaal wat en wanneer je wilt.
nn: Dette er den sentrale staden å diskutere saker som gjeld Wikisource, og staden for å be om hjelp. Bruk dei språka du kan, og set om det du vil.
pt: Esta é a página principal para discutir tudo o que se relaciona com o Wikisource e também o lugar para procurar ajuda. Faça uso da(s) língua(s) que conhece, e traduza os textos que quiser.
ru: Это центральное место для обсуждений, связанных с Викитекой в целом, а также место, где можно спросить о помощи. Используйте язык, который вы знаете и переводите что и когда вам нравится.
sl: To je osrednje mesto za razpravo o zadevah Wikivira in kraj, kjer lahko zaprosite za pomoč. Uporabljajte jezik(e), ki ga (jih) poznate, in prevedite, kar vam je všeč.
su: Ieu mangrupa loka pikeun nyawalakeun hal-hal ngeunaan Wikisource, sarta tempat pikeun ménta pitulung. Pigunakeun basa nu ku anjeun dipikawanoh, tarjamahkeun nu dipikaresep.
sv: Detta är den huvudsakliga platsen där alla typer av frågor rörande Wikisource diskuteras och där nya frågor kan ställas. Använd de språk som du kan och översätt när och vad du vill av andra.
syl: ꠁꠈꠣꠘ ꠃꠁꠇꠤꠒꠣꠇꠞ ꠛꠤꠡꠄꠀꠡꠄ ꠀꠞ ꠖꠄꠖꠞꠛꠣꠞ ꠟꠂꠀ ꠝꠣꠔꠣꠞ ꠄꠉꠥ ꠝꠥꠟ ꠎꠦꠉꠣ ⁕ ꠁꠘꠅ ꠖꠄ ꠖꠞꠇꠣꠞꠦ ꠡꠣꠄ ꠡꠣꠁꠎ꠆ꠎꠅ ꠌꠣꠁꠔꠣ ꠙꠣꠞꠂꠘ ⁕ ꠀꠙꠘꠦ ꠎꠦ ꠜꠣꠡꠣ ꠎꠣꠘꠂꠘ ꠅꠐꠣꠃ ꠛꠦꠛꠀꠞ ꠇꠞ꠆ꠔꠣ ꠙꠣꠞꠂꠘ ꠀꠞ ꠅꠘꠥꠛꠣꠖ ꠇꠞ꠆ꠔꠣ ꠙꠣꠞꠂꠘ ⁕
th: ที่แห่งนี้เป็นศูนย์กลางสำหรับการพูดคุยปัญหาต่าง ๆ เกี่ยวกับวิกิซอร์ซ และเป็นที่สำหรับขอความช่วยเหลือ คุณสามารถใช้ภาษาที่รู้จักและแปลสิ่งที่คุณต้องการ
tl: Ito ang sentrong lokasyon para pag-usupan ang mga isyu kasama ng Wikisource, at ang lugar upang humingi ng tulong. Gamitin ang (mga) wika na alam mo, at isalin ang anong gusto mo.
vi: Đây là trung tâm để thảo luận các vấn đề liên quan đến Wikisource. Bạn sử dụng các ngôn ngữ bạn biết, và dịch những gì bạn thích.
vo: Atos binon top cifik, kö mögos ad bespikön valikosi dö Vükifonät, e kö kanoy i begön yufi. Gebolös pükis, kelis sevol, e tradutolös utosi, kelosi vilol.
yue: 呢度係主要討論維基文庫相關問題嘅版面。你可以用你識得嘅語言留言,亦都可以幫手翻譯其他人嘅留言。
zh-hant: 這裡是討論與維基文庫有關話題和尋求幫助的頁面。使用您所了解的語言留言。您也可以在任何時候把他人的留言翻譯成您熟悉的語言。
zh-hans: 这里是讨论与维基文库有关话题和寻求帮助的页面。使用您所了解的语言留言。您也可以在任何时候把他人的留言翻译成您熟悉的语言。
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Assamese Wikisource

Hi, Assamese Wikisource has been created today and I have imported the content from Category:অসমীয়া and subcategories; they can now probably be deleted here. I put a list on User:MF-Warburg#Assamese_pages. Best regards, --MF-Warburg (talk) 20:18, 3 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Be a Wikimedia fundraising "User Experience" volunteer!

Thank you to everyone who volunteered last year on the Wikimedia fundraising 'User Experience' project. We have talked to many different people in different countries and their feedback has helped us immensely in restructuring our pages. If you haven't heard of it yet, the 'User Experience' project has the goal of understanding the donation experience in different countries (outside the USA) and enhancing the localization of our donation pages.

I am (still) searching for volunteers to spend some time on a Skype chat with me, reviewing their own country's donation pages. It will be done on a 'usability' format (I will ask you to read the text and go through the donation flow) and will be asking your feedback in the meanwhile.

The only pre-requisite is for the volunteer to actually live in the country and to have access to at least one donation method that we offer for that country (mainly credit/debit card, but also real time banking like IDEAL, E-wallets, etc...) so we can do a live test and see if the donation goes through. **All volunteers will be reimbursed of the donations that eventually succeed (and they will be very low amounts, like 1-2 dollars)**

By helping us you are actually helping thousands of people to support our mission of free knowledge across the world. If you are interested (or know of anyone who could be) please email ppena@wikimedia.org. All countries needed (excepting USA)!!

Thanks!

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Bugzilla request to deploy Universal Language Selector here

A user has submitted bugzilla:44032 to deploy Narayam or Universal Language Selector (ULS) on mulWS. From my (limited) view of where WMF is progressing, it seems to make sense that mulWS (w|sh)ould look to preferably deploy mw:Extension:Universal Language Selector. A quick search finds this and this covers the matter. For those who have seen WebFonts in various places, this is the successor to that.

The primary aim is to allow users to select a language and configure its support in an easy way.

The extension provides the following features:

  1. Flexible and easy way to select a language from a large set of languages.
    1. Selection can be based on geographical region based browsing, searching.
    2. Search can be based on ISO language code, language name written in current user interface language or in its own script(autonym)
    3. Cross language search - search language names using any script
    4. Autocompletion of language names
    5. Auto correction of spelling mistakes in search strings
    6. Geo IP based language suggestions
    7. Language selection based on users browser/OS language
  2. Input methods
    1. An easily selectable input method collection, readily available in every editable field
    2. Provides a large set of input methods for wide range of languages
    3. Per-language input method preferences
  3. Webfonts
    1. A large collection of fonts to choose for each language to use as embedded font for the page
    2. Per-language font preferences

mw:Extension:Universal Language Selector

The change will only take place if a community discussion has taken place (which I am obviously starting), though it would be useful that the community's considered opinion be added to the bugzilla to allow the extension to be added, or for the status quo to remain. billinghurst sDrewth 05:09, 17 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Not that it is my bugzilla, however, I propose that the mulWS community looks to support the deployment on mulWS of the Universal Language Selector Extension

closing as supported and noting to that effect in Bugzilla. I hope that the admins are happy with that approach. If not please disagree in the bugzilla and note whatever reason and for it not to progress. billinghurst sDrewth 08:03, 2 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
ULS is now deployed. Tpt (talk) 20:07, 15 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Is it known than ULS is not compatible with FF 3.6, and perhaps other version ? By not compatible I mean than if you click on the link and start to interact with the window, it display a huge grey area and you can't do anything to recover except close the tab. — Phe
I don't know. You should report this issue on bugzilla. Tpt (talk) 14:45, 16 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

New feature for the ProofreadPage extension

Creating Index pages starting from the "Search" field is a bit rough. Thus I propose to add a new special page to the ProofreadPage extension (potential name: "Special:CreateIndexPage") and to add it to the sidebar's toolbox, under "Upload file".

The special page may include:

  • an introductory text ("Would you like to transcribe a text from its scans? Ensure they have been uploaded either to Wikimedia Commons or here to {{SERVERNAME}}. Then enter the file name without the "File:" prefix in the below text field. [[$1|Learn more about Index pages]]")
  • a text field for entering the file name without the "File:" prefix. Beside the field, a notification may appear when text is typed or pasted:
    • ✔ This file exists on {{SERVERNAME}} if there is a file with that name on that domain or both on Wikimedia Commons and on that domain
    • ✔ This file exists on Wikimedia Commons if there is a file with that name on Wikimedia Commons only
    • ✘ This file exists neither on Wikimedia Commons nor on {{SERVERNAME}} if there isn't a file with that name
  • the "Create button"

The special page is especially intended for newcomers. What is your opinion? Who knows how to do this in practice?--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 18:17, 17 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Answer as contributor: I believe that, instead of creating a new special page and a new link in the sidebar, a better thing to do to help newcomers is maybe to make more visible the link to the index pages in the file pages (an example of file page) because, before creating an index page, the user will search for a scan and, so, go to the file page. But there is an issue with that work-flow: this link isn't shown currently in commons if the description of the file doesn't use the book template with the Wikisource field. <dream>In the future, it would be wonderful to have a specific version of the upload wizard for books that allow to set fields of the Book template and create the index page in Wikisource</dream>. Tpt (talk) 20:06, 18 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Answer as ProofreadPage maintainer: if there is a consensus of the community to create this index page, I am ready to create it and integrate it into the extension. It's a very easy thing.
Tpt (talk) 20:06, 18 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Can I come back to the basic premise. Do people searching at one of the Wikisources arrive with the intention of transcribing a book? Further if they are new to the sites, is the first thing that we want them to be doing is to say "I will transcribe 'such and such' a book? and start on the process from scratch and in isolation? My guess is that we will have a whole lot of Index: pages created and not a lot more in the way of transcription, and I am seeing other possible errors like .jpg book covers, etc. having an index page. To me, the introductory component is correct and this is about the engagement and the help. If we don't have a specific work, then we should be looking to engage people context specific and helpful information, point them to where they can find help and ask questions about how to start. We may come to having a special tool, however, the wish and intent to transcribe should first be tested and supported.

To Tpt's suggestion about File: ns pages, I do like your idea on being clever in that regard. I cannot see how you have implemented MediaWiki:Proofreadpage image message, though presume that it relies on an #ifexist: test. So we just need the ability to configure when the result is does not exist and I would suggest that it is to help pages (specialised?) where each WS can have their context relevant and customised help text. billinghurst sDrewth 23:50, 19 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

No, most people visiting Wikisource do not have the intention of transcribing a book. Nevertheless, we must lead visitors to transcribe a book. As an example, Commons and YouTube have got an "Upload" button. Wikipedia articles start from red links, as well as Wikisource author pages and main-namespace pages. Instead, Index pages have got no place to start from. This does not mean that we should encourage users to starting transcriptions that they will never finish.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 19:57, 21 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Erasmo, to lead our visitors would result into making them angry and with some reason don’t you think so?  :) there is no obligation to do that. — Clear indications about how to help to build the world library that we are building, in case our readers wish to help, is a different thing though, so I agree with this side of your proposition. --Zyephyrus (talk) 14:14, 22 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
I wrote lead in the sense of guide them to the right place. Other websites are more successful because thy are more intuitive.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 16:51, 22 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
There is a strange synchronicity because I discussed the very same issue in private with other wikilibrarians just few days ago :-). My original idea was to pre-load the template book in Commons, when there a .djvu is uploaded. this would be useful for wikilibrarians and would add a bit of coherence there.
A special Upload Wizard, for wikisources, is of course much needed. It would be very useful for both experienced users and newcomers to be able to just stay on Wikisource and upload (from here!) a book on Commons. But this would also need a lot of work for metadata. As you all very well know we write metadata on Commons (book template), Wikisource (index and ns0 header) and sometimes even Wikipedia. It would be massively useful to store the data on Wikidata, and have them all transcluded in various wiki projects when needed. Moreover, just think about that we never use OpenLibrary/Worldcat/OPAC metadata for our books, and that we are just recataloguing them for the nth time... Could we maybe discuss a strategy as Wikilibrarians all together? Aubrey (talk) 15:59, 28 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
Really, I think we should wait for further developments in order to use Wikidata for this purpose. Currently, Wikidata handles neither Wikisource links nor infoboxes.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 19:02, 30 January 2013 (UTC)Reply
See #Grant_application_for:_.22New_Wikisource_relationship_with_Commons.2C_Wikidata_and_Wikipedia.22. :-) Aubrey (talk) 11:11, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Picture of the Year voting round 1 open

Dear Wikimedians,

Wikimedia Commons is happy to announce that the 2012 Picture of the Year competition is now open. We're interested in your opinion as to which images qualify to be the Picture of the Year for 2012. Voting is open to established Wikimedia users who meet the following criteria:

  1. Users must have an account, at any Wikimedia project, which was registered before Tue, 01 Jan 2013 00:00:00 +0000 [UTC].
  2. This user account must have more than 75 edits on any single Wikimedia project before Tue, 01 Jan 2013 00:00:00 +0000 [UTC]. Please check your account eligibility at the POTY 2012 Contest Eligibility tool.
  3. Users must vote with an account meeting the above requirements either on Commons or another SUL-related Wikimedia project (for other Wikimedia projects, the account must be attached to the user's Commons account through SUL).

Hundreds of images that have been rated Featured Pictures by the international Wikimedia Commons community in the past year are all entered in this competition. From professional animal and plant shots to breathtaking panoramas and skylines, restorations of historically relevant images, images portraying the world's best architecture, maps, emblems, diagrams created with the most modern technology, and impressive human portraits, Commons features pictures of all flavors.

For your convenience, we have sorted the images into topic categories. Two rounds of voting will be held: In the first round, you can vote for as many images as you like. The first round category winners and the top ten overall will then make it to the final. In the final round, when a limited number of images are left, you must decide on the one image that you want to become the Picture of the Year.

To see the candidate images just go to the POTY 2012 page on Wikimedia Commons.

Wikimedia Commons celebrates our featured images of 2012 with this contest. Your votes decide the Picture of the Year, so remember to vote in the first round by January 30, 2013.

Thanks,
the Wikimedia Commons Picture of the Year committee

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Bot request; RileyBot

I request a bot flag for my bot

  • Operator: -Riley Huntley
  • Purpose: Fix broken and double redirects.
  • Script used: Python, pywikipedia.
  • Already has the bot flag on: enwikivoyage, frwikivoyage and enwikipedia.

-Riley Huntley (SWMT) 04:24, 27 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Malaysian Wikisource

Hi, I would like to suggest moving Perlembagaan Persekutuan Malaysia and it's subpages to prefix Ms/. (by way of meta:Requests for new languages/Wikisource Malay). See also unindexed page in Category:Bahasa Melayu. I'm comparing it with Jv and Category:Javanese, so CMIIW Bennylin (talk) 14:38, 29 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Help turn ideas into grants in the new IdeaLab

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  • Do you have an idea for a project to improve this community or website?
  • Do you think you could complete your idea if only you had some funding?
  • Do you want to help other people turn their ideas into project plans or grant proposals?

Please join us in the IdeaLab, an incubator for project ideas and Individual Engagement Grant proposals.

The Wikimedia Foundation is seeking new ideas and proposals for Individual Engagement Grants. These grants fund individuals or small groups to complete projects that help improve this community. If interested, please submit a completed proposal by February 15, 2013. Please visit https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG for more information.

Thanks! --Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 20:59, 30 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Grant application for: "New Wikisource relationship with Commons, Wikidata and Wikipedia"

Since the Wikidata project is allowing us new ways of handling content, I have started a grant proposal to define a vision about how to integrate Wikisource content in Commons and Wikipedia. Please, check my grant application and share your thoughts. Thanks! --Micru (talk) 06:42, 28 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Copied the above from commons:COM:VP: for mysterious reasons, it wasn't shared with Wikisource. --Nemo 08:20, 31 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Please comment on Individual Engagement Grant proposals until February 21

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The Wikimedia Foundation is considering Individual Engagement Grant proposals from community members. Please join the discussion and share your thoughts about these ideas, until February 21. The following proposal may be of particular relevance for this Wikimedia project:

Thanks! --Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 01:05, 20 February 2013 (UTC) Distributed via Global message delivery. (Wrong page? Correct it here.)Reply


Picture of the Year 2012

Results, here’s the winner:




Pair of Merops apiaster feeding
Pair of Merops apiaster feeding

European Bee-eater, Ariège, France.

The female (in front) awaits the offering which the male will make...




--Zyephyrus (talk) 19:00, 22 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Fable de Schleicher

Hi,

fr:Fable de Schleicher is proposed for deletion on the french-speaking wikisource (writen by August Schleicher, 1821 – 1868 ; see w:en:Schleicher's fable for some more explanations). What do you think : could these texts be import on oldwikisource or not ?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 11:14, 2 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi all.

I mounted into it.wikisource, commons and it.wikivoyage a sctipt derived from the tool suggested [here] and it runs.It adds a link to wikidata into any page with an item into wikidata; and it saves into a $("body").data() variable the whole set of data got from wikidata. I'm going to test a old.wikisource version of it here into User:Alex brollo/common.js: feel free to use it if you like. Italic text--Alex brollo (talk) 17:35, 4 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Test the result here (it runs!): Author:Giuseppe Peano. I'm going to mount the same script into en:User.Alex brollo/common.js, I found that here Authors linking to wikidata are not so many. --Alex brollo (talk) 17:44, 4 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Convert complex templates to Lua to make them faster and more powerful

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Greetings. As you might have seen on the Wikimedia tech blog or the tech ambassadors list, a new functionality called "Lua" is being enabled on all Wikimedia sites today. Lua is a scripting language that enables you to write faster and more powerful MediaWiki templates.

If you have questions about how to convert existing templates to Lua (or how to create new ones), we'll be holding two support sessions on IRC next week: one on Wednesday (for Oceania, Asia & America) and one on Friday (for Europe, Africa & America); see m:IRC office hours for the details. If you can't make it, you can also get help at mw:Talk:Lua scripting.

If you'd like to learn about this kind of events earlier in advance, consider becoming a Tech ambassador by subscribing to the mailing list. You will also be able to help your fellow Wikimedians have a voice in technical discussions and be notified of important decisions.

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Wikisources asked for ideas re: Google Summer of Code

WMF has prodded me and wanted to make sure that the Wikisources were putting on their thinking caps for Google Summer of Code

It's time to start defining what we want our Google Summer of Code to be all about. Let's look at the ideas we are proposing to potential students:

mw:Mentorship programs/Possible projects

Many of the ideas listed there are too generic ("Write an extension"), improvements of existing features ("Improve Extension:CSS") or work-in-progress tasks ("Fix Parsoid bugs"). Many others are not directly related with development, and therefore not suitable either for GSOC.

After this filtering, we seem to be left with:

  • Article evolution playback tool idea
  • An easy way to share wiki content on social media services
  • Write an extension to support XML Sitemaps without using command line
  • Extension:OEmbedProvider
  • Add support for x3d 3D files to MediaWiki
  • Allow smoother and easier Wikimedia Commons pictures discovery
  • Build an interwiki notifications framework and implement it for InstantCommons
  • Automatic category redirects

(If you think your project should also be considered here please speak up!)

Most of these projects seem to be extension (and PHP?) centric. Can we have more diversity? Maybe gadgets and templates are too simple for a GSOC project? What about the mobile front? Do we have skin development projects that could make it here? Anything in the DevOps area? Anything the MediaWiki core maintainers would like to see happening?

It would be also nice to have more candidates benefiting specific Wikimedia projects. Beyond Wikipedia, we have several proposals related to Commons. Wikidata seems to be joining soon. What else? Could this be a chance to help Wiktionary, Wikibooks or any other project with specific needs craving for tech attention?

Also to the many students that have already showed their interest: feel free pushing your project ideas now!

—Quim Gil, Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation, via mailing lists

We have some information at Wikisource:Wishlist, however, this is probably the opportunity to think of a fresh idea that is an opportunity for a short and limited time period.

I am going to send similar to the Wikisource-l mailing list and to enWS, and ask for them to contribute here. I think that something that is holistic for the WSes is more likely than a single wiki suggestion. billinghurst sDrewth 01:59, 23 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

I copy here a mail I sent to wikisource-l:
That is a really good opportunity. We also have http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_roadmap,

that we set up at Wikimania 2012. Few of those thought are now in the Wikisource Grant proposal, too: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Elaborate_Wikisource_strategic_vision

I would say that a proper metadata handling system is maybe the first priority, but maybe we can accomplish that via Lua templates on WS and metadata stored in Wikidata.
Another thing would be working with OKFN tools for seeking and integration (TEXTUS, for example).

http://textusproject.org/

Moreover, Djvu support/handling was an interest also of the WMF: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_roadmap#Djvu
Well, there's a lot of stuff we can do :-) Aubrey (talk) 11:45, 23 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
An idea: One-click import from the Internet Archive, with Djvu upload to Wikimedia Commons, same metadata, right copyright template, create Index page on the right language version of Wikisource, create all Pages with the existing OCR text, so they are ready for Google indexing, and later proofreading.
  1. The user finds an interersting book at the Internet Archive.
  2. User presses one button.
  3. The text is ready for proofreading.
No, I'm not volunteering to write the software. --LA2 (talk) 16:21, 23 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
There is already https://toolserver.org/~tpt/iaUploadBot that allows to upload easily IA files to Wikimedia Commons.
I've opened a GSoc proposal about Proofread Page in order to improve Page: pages edition interface and allow edition of these pages with the Visual Editor. Tpt (talk) 06:29, 9 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
idea (hope not too late); request wikisource upload wizard - process flow = upload pdf to commons -> automatically convert to deja-vu -> automatically create work & toc at wikisource -> automatically match and split pages at source
the objective is to provide a tool for cultural professionals who are not coders to upload their content. design of user experience will be the hard part ? Slowking4 (talk) 16:32, 9 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Wikisource improvements for Summer of Code 2013

Hello! I am planning to submit a proposal regarding Extension:Collection for this summer's Google Summer of Code and Outreach Program for Women. I'm still working to narrow down the focus of this project, as I have many ideas on what can be improved (idea page can be found at User:GorillaWarfare/GSoC). My ideas include improvements that would affect Wikisource. Currently, printing or saving a Wikisource book is quite challenging, as the Collection extension has no way of identifying which pages make up a book. One of my project ideas is implementing a method to associate various pages with a book, an idea which will have more benefits to Wikisource than just improving printing and export. The other parts of my proposal include improving Extension:Collection's ease of use, improving exportation quality and possibly expanding the list of formats to which books and articles can be exported, adding easy formatting options to Extension:Collection, and various others.

I was hoping to get some feedback from the Wikisource community about these ideas. Do you think they're feasible (keeping in mind I'm certainly not planning to tackle all of these in a three-month period)? Are these changes you'd personally like to see? Are there other related improvements that you'd be interested in? Really, any advice/critique/comments/suggestions would be very much appreciated. Thank you! GorillaWarfare (talk) 13:31, 8 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Hi! That is great, Aubrey and me we are working on this grant. Maybe we could have a talk soon? I'll send you an email with more information.--Micru (talk) 18:21, 9 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
I look forward to hearing from you. GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:29, 9 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

As an update, I've started my actual proposal. Instead of focusing on Extension:Collection, I'm going to focus my proposal on Extension:BookManager. The problem with effectively printing an entire book is blocked by the need to organize a book's individual pages and chapters into a single unit, and I'm excited about the developments that solving this problem will allow: dependencies of bug 15071. I'm hoping to receive feedback on this, as it's an extension I'm really hoping to see deployed on Wikisource and Wikibooks. GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:12, 16 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Lost Collection extension issues

Here's a list of issues that would use help of people using the Collection extension and knowing if they're still valid. Same can be said of those on bugzilla, which at least are not lost. --Nemo 11:26, 12 April 2013 (UTC)Reply


I looked at Wikisource:Language policy and did not find any guidance on this question.

At English Wikisource we are in the process of approving a policy to allow translations with a requirement that requires a "scan supported original language work on the appropriate language wiki". It has been pointed out in this discussion that do to different copyright concerns, some works that are PD in English are not PD in the original language. Would here (oldwikisource) be an appropriate language wiki for works that are PD in the US but not in the country/language of origin? JeepdaySock (talk) 14:39, 17 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

See here and older discussion. But I don't think it's a good idea anymore, because it might lead to competition with the other WS-language-domains etc. --D.H (talk) 15:17, 17 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

I disagree, the first link D.H. provides is to long standing policy; such works do and should exist here. For example, the pre-1923 works of Hermann Hesse won't be PD in Germany and therefore not eligible for posting on de.ws until 2032. They are PD in the US, this would include the German version of Siddhartha and many of his other works. I am currently (albeit very slowly) working on a collection of his poetry here.--Doug.(talk contribs) 20:09, 26 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Implementing Easier and More Efficient Metadata Tags on Wikisource

Disclosure: I am contracted by Creative Commons LRMI Project.

I would like to propose adopting the use of a by-default-disabled Mediawiki metadata feature that would greatly improve the organization and search engine visibility of the content of Wikisource. These metadata tags are part of Schema.org which was developed by Google, Bing, Yahoo, and Yandex, and can be viewed here. The benefit of these tags is that when used within educational content such as on Wikisource, the information contained on the page is made into a way that is easily intelligible to machines by changing just one line with the Mediawiki configuration. An example of MediaWiki using Schema can be seen by using Google's testing tool. These metatags were originally developed by LRMI but their recent adoption of Schema.org is a huge milestone that has great potential to improve the efficiency of the way we are able to search educational resources and content on places like Wikisource. Maximilian.Klein.LRMI (talk) 22:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Request for comment on inactive administrators

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Hello!

There is a new request for comment on Meta-Wiki concerning the removal of administrative rights from long-term inactive Wikimedians. Generally, this proposal from stewards would apply to wikis without an administrators' review process.

We are also compiling a list of projects with procedures for removing inactive administrators on the talk page of the request for comment. Feel free to add your project(s) to the list if you have a policy on administrator inactivity.

All input is appreciated. The discussion may close as soon as 21 May 2013 (2013-05-21), but this will be extended if needed.

Thanks, Billinghurst (thanks to all the translators!) 05:29, 24 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Wikisource vision development: News April 2013

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Dear Wikisourcerors, it has been almost a month since we have started with the Elaborate Wikisource strategic vision grant and we would like to share some news with you:

And that's it for now! During the month of May, we (Aubrey and Micru) would like to organize at least one Skype or Google Hangout meeting for the users of each one of the 10 biggest wikisources plus another one or two for the other languages (depending on interest). We want to know your opinion on what Wikisource should become in the next years.

Thanks! --Micru and Aubrey 01:01, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

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[en] Change to wiki account system and account renaming

Some accounts will soon be renamed due to a technical change that the developer team at Wikimedia are making. More details on Meta.

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The default position of the "edit" link in page section headers is going to change soon. The "edit" link will be positioned adjacent to the page header text rather than floating opposite it.

Section edit links will be to the immediate right of section titles, instead of on the far right. If you're an editor of one of the wikis which already implemented this change, nothing will substantially change for you; however, scripts and gadgets depending on the previous implementation of section edit links will have to be adjusted to continue working; however, nothing else should break even if they are not updated in time.

Detailed information and a timeline is available on meta.

Ideas to do this all the way to 2009 at least. It is often difficult to track which of several potential section edit links on the far right is associated with the correct section, and many readers and anonymous or new editors may even be failing to notice section edit links at all, since they read section titles, which are far away from the links.

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I've added our scriptorium to the targets list. --Zyephyrus (talk) 22:03, 20 May 2013 (UTC)Reply