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Augusto Ducrey

https://d-nb.info/gnd/1165072823 1949 seems a clear mistake for 1940. Thanks and happy 2023! --Epìdosis 20:01, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

✓ Done Augusto Ducrey (Q3629620) That was indeed a typo. Corrected & Happy New Year. --Kolja21 (talk) 20:32, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
@MisterSynergy: Dieses Datenobjekt könnte für dich interessant sein, falls du mal bot-technisch mit der Deutschen Biographie zu tun hast. Q3629620#P7902: "Seite nicht gefunden". Die URL ist korrekt (siehe Zitierweise am Ende der Seite), funktioniert aber trotzdem nicht. Ich schätze die Deutsche Biographie und nutze sie häufig, aber leider gibt es Probleme beim Abgleich mit der GND. In diesem Fall ist für mich weder ersichtlich, warum der Link nicht funktioniert (keine Zusammenlegung von Dubletten oder ähnliches), noch weiß ich, ob der Fehler bekannt ist und wann er behoben wird. --Kolja21 (talk) 23:47, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Das habe ich mir kurz angeschaut, auch wenn ich keine Pläne für einen Bot zu dieser Seite habe. Ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass in diesem Falle extern etwas falsch verdrahtet ist und wir da nichts machen können (außer ggf. das Problem zu melden und auf offene Ohren zu hoffen). Kennen wir dort jemanden? —MisterSynergy (talk) 00:18, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Ich kenne dort niemanden, aber User:B-ebneth müsste einen direkten Draht habe. Vielleicht sieht er den Ping. --Kolja21 (talk) 00:23, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Helmut Götz

Hallo Kolja,

Helmut Goetz (Q80174863) und Helmut Goetz (Q95308814) gehören zusammen, die Werke des Apothekers (Die PKA-Ausbildung in Fragen und Antworten) sind jedoch falsch zugeordnet bei der DNB.

Mfg, Spermalotto (talk) 17:58, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Danke für den Hinweis. Die Dubletten habe ich zusammengeführt, und die Meldung auf de:WP:GND/F ist raus. Bei dem Apotheker handelt es sich vermutlich um Helmut Götz (Q115973412): no description. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:06, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Peter Halliday

Hi re Peter Halliday disambiguation, with the change there's a few outstanding misapplied values. eg. Q115988077 for the actor has the VIAF 18788274 (which is for the calligrapher). So I'll look at changing those. Let me know if you spot anything else. Rhagfyr (talk) 16:15, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Both persons are now clearly separated: Peter Halliday (Q7174491): Welsh actor (1924-2012) and Peter Halliday (Q115988077): practitioner, teacher, author, calligrapher and lettering artist. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:19, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Caterpillar 120

Kloakenseele (talk) 21:05, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Was hälst du von: Q116001165 ist part of the series (P179) von Caterpillar 120 (Q115974148)? Event. besser als "verschieden von". Es gibt 235 GNDs für Maschinen und Fahrzeuge von Caterpillar. Bislang sind die meisten noch nicht erfasst. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:44, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Giuseppe Pelosi

According to https://viaf.org/viaf/37154570/, https://d-nb.info/gnd/119162040 has among its records Enrico Fermi a Firenze : le "Lezioni di meccanica razionale" al biennio propedeutico agli studi di ingegneria: 1924-1926; however, this is a work by Giuseppe Pelosi (Q96119973). Thanks! --Epìdosis 18:45, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

BTW I suggest to create also the pathologist; everything cleaned in SBN (changes become visible each Tuesday, I think). --Epìdosis 19:00, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done Nessun problema. Completato. --Kolja21 (talk) 20:29, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Hans-Jürgen Lange

Hi! SBN has 3 works by an author with this name (https://opac.sbn.it/risultati-ricerca-avanzata?item:5032:BID=UFIV088110). Whilst "Responsivitat und Organisation" (missing ä, I will edit it) is surely by Hans-Jürgen Lange (Q17575300), the author of the other 2 ones is obscure to me, nor I was able to find the original version of these works, despite the fact that they are translations. Could you help me? I will then fix SBN accordingly. Thanks, --Epìdosis 18:24, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi Epìdosis, the other two titles are from Hans-Jürgen Lange (Q116084492) (b. 1952), widely unknown author of esoteric writings; needs to be fixed in DNB (de:WP:GND/F). Short biography: Lange works as an art director for a German advertising agency. Privately, he devotes himself to contemporary historical research and esoteric studies.[1] --Kolja21 (talk) 02:45, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done Thanks! Solved in SBN. --Epìdosis 08:16, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Guiseppe

https://d-nb.info/gnd/1116291568 and https://d-nb.info/gnd/1062408136 are Giuseppe (typical spelling mistake); I suggest looking for other Guiseppe, probably they are all mistaken. Thanks, --Epìdosis 16:09, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi Epìdosis, this is difficult because the spelling variant Guiseppe (Q21146116) exists:
--Kolja21 (talk) 20:08, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Individual cases:

  1. I've filed a report for Giuseppe Camerata (Q5565365): Italian painter (1718-1793). --Kolja21 (talk) 20:20, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
  2. I can correct Giuseppe De Stefani (Q116142688) (GND 1074952928). Is he a historian? --Kolja21 (talk) 20:36, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
    Yes, and found death date. --Epìdosis 17:04, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
    ✓ Done Awesome. GND fixed. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:21, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
  3. Another typo: Giuseppe La Rocca Nunzio (Q116144932) (born 1928). Do you have any information about him? --Kolja21 (talk) 00:10, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
    Yes, from internal search in https://books.google.it/books?id=xINtAAAAIAAJ: "GIUSEPPE LA ROCCA NUNZIO nato a Piazza Armerina (Sicilia), il 1928, è fondatore dell'Accademia universale GLI AMICI DEI SACRI LARI, sorta per commemorare i Geni delle Lettere, delle Arti, e della Musica di ogni tempo e nazione."
    Thanks. I've filed a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:28, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
  4. I've filed reports for some duplicates (Giuseppe/Guiseppe). Is there a stable link to the SBN hub Polo regionale di Sicilia: Q116146284#P1317? --Kolja21 (talk) 03:11, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
    I suggest using directly the OPAC SBN: http://id.sbn.it/bid/PAL0338538. Thanks for the cleaning! --Epìdosis 17:04, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
  5. @Epìdosis: Any idea who barone Carlo Giuseppe Accusani (Q116156535) could be? --Kolja21 (talk) 03:59, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
    Not much, found only here (https://books.google.it/books?id=Se8zTuFcCVUC): "il barone Carlo Giuseppe Accusani amico altresì del P. baccelliere Tasso e del P. Maestro Cavagnari". --Epìdosis 08:08, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Helmut Löffler

https://viaf.org/viaf/65414984/ shows a bad conflation between the author of Fehlentscheidungen bei Herodot (Helmut Löffler (Q116158771)), the engineer (Helmut Löffler (Q15507900) and the internist (Helmut Löffler (Q112384139)). Situation fixed in SBN; could you give an ID to the first author in GND? Thanks, --Epìdosis 08:47, 10 January 2023 (UTC) P.S. Of course finding the birth date of the to-be-created historian could be useful ;-) --Epìdosis 08:51, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the hint! DNB has the thesis of the historian but I found no further information. Now GND 1277707596. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:59, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Poppenreuth

Poppenreuth (Q1348953): Da ist die VIAF:246558375 eingetragen. Das einzige was in dem SUDOC/IdRef steht ist der Satz "Ville située dans Land de Bavière", jetzt gibt es aber 5 Poppenreuth und alle in Bayern, siehe de:Poppenreuth. --Wurgl (talk) 09:59, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Hallo Wurgl, ich habe unter Q52105174#P527 nachgeschlagen und für IdRef "Mehrdeutigkeit" als Zurückweisungsgrund eingetragen: Q1348953#P269. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:06, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Unique values

Property talk:P227/Duplicates/humans emptied now except difficult cases already known. See you soon, --Epìdosis 11:37, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

I've solved one case (a conflation). Two GNDs are in progress:
--Kolja21 (talk) 15:21, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Gerhard Wagner

Strange use of Wirkungsdaten in https://d-nb.info/gnd/121074226, they should be merged into Lebensdaten. Thanks, --Epìdosis 19:08, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

I can't edit this GND and filed a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:51, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Luigi Alfano

Der Archäologe L. Alfano wird bei der GND als Komponist geführt. Handelt es sich trotzdem um die gleiche Person? Vielen Dank im voraus.-- Zachary Zulock (talk) 20:42, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Epìdosis: He is talking about this edit. I've created a new item for the composer. Can you check if the separation is correct?
Third person:
Thanks in advance. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:31, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
I agree with your separation, thanks for noticing! --Epìdosis 21:35, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
@Epìdosis: I've checked the Archivio Biografico Italiano. Luigi Athos Sottile d'Alfano, "nato il 22 marzo 1913 a Ribera (Agrigento)." Occupation: Barone; agricoltore; giornalista; conferenziere; funzionario al ministero della Pubblica Istruzione. Looks like the SBN author (heraldist) is a different person. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:43, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Strange case, same year of birth and the occupations are compatible, but Ribera and Barcellona Pozzo di Gotto are very much distant; SBN cites no source, IMHO they are the same person but SBN simply has a wrong birth place. I would split in two items; I will investigate further. --Epìdosis 21:58, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
I probably discovered the cause of the error: in this book "I read LUIGI ATHOS SOTTILE , nato a Ribera ( Agrigento ) il 22 marzo 1913 , da Guglielmo, di antica famiglia barcellonese ( Messina ) e da Ebe Teresa Panizzoni , nobile vicentina". So SBN wrongly inferred that he was born in Barcellona Pozzo di Grotto from the fact that its family was from there. Surely same person, data from ABI added to the item; I will try to fix SBN. --Epìdosis 22:03, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Marica Costigliolo

Hi! GND https://d-nb.info/gnd/1100178147 has 1994 as birthdate for Marica Costigliolo (Q113838330), but it is clearly wrong (and there are not two persons of course): it is 1975, as stated in SBN and Aracne. Thanks, --Epìdosis 10:09, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Thanks for the hint. I haven't found out where 1994 as the year of birth came from. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:40, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Francesco La Cava

Here Francesco La Cava (Q15413150) two GNDs, one of them with wrong date. Thanks! --Epìdosis 11:58, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I've filed a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 20:25, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Giuseppe Patanè

https://d-nb.info/gnd/124893155/about/lds has a strange death date 1989-08-29: in Giuseppe Patanè (Q284248) DBI (Treccani's Biographical Dictionary of Italian People ID (P1986)), BNF and Grove agree on 1989-05-30. Thanks, --Epìdosis 08:37, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done The first source given is LCAuth where it also says "d. May 30, 1989". I have corrected the GND accordingly. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:36, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Anna Forlani Tempesti

https://d-nb.info/gnd/139066535 was born in 1930, not 1929, as said by LC (cited) and BNF. Thanks! --Epìdosis 09:30, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Anna Forlani Tempesti (Q93427560): Italian art historian (1930-2019). --Kolja21 (talk) 22:53, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Calogero Giorgio Priolo

https://d-nb.info/gnd/1252042159 was born in Susa (province of Torino), not Torino (cfr. SBN). Thanks, --Epìdosis 09:47, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Calogero Giorgio Priolo (Q116687522): Italian literary scholar (1991-). --Kolja21 (talk) 23:12, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Dioscorus Alexandrinus

Hi! I saw the following:

as far as I can see, they seem all related to Dioscorus I of Alexandria (Q467835) (surely the first one is), but some aliases related to Aphrodito (es. Aphroditopolitanus) point instead to Dioscorus of Aphrodito (Q596816). Could you have a look? Of course I can help distinguishes the related works. Thanks, --Epìdosis 21:38, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

I add: the record of Dioscorus of Aphrodito (Q596816) is clearly https://d-nb.info/gnd/118883003, discovered now. --Epìdosis 21:41, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
@Epìdosis: Thanks! I've filed a report. GND 1157197116 ("maschinell eingespielter Satz; noch nicht redaktionell bearbeitet") mentions two works:
  • Confessio Fidei Claudii Regis Æthiopiæ (1661)
  • A panegyric on Macarius (1980)
Do both refer to Dioscorus Alexandrinus? --Kolja21 (talk) 22:36, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
I confirm, both works are definitely by Dioscorus Patriarch of Alexandria. --Epìdosis 08:07, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Hippolytos

Please be careful adding GND IDs. On Hippolytus (Q375786) you added two additions IDs for different plays. The other plays are fragments of lost works, and their IDs should be placed on separate data items. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:19, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi @EncycloPetey: Thanks for noticing, but please take a look at de:Der bekränzte Hippolytos. Instead of removing IDs it would be better to create items for "the other plays" and move the IDs and (if necessary) the Wikipedia articles. And please do not remove scope note (P9570). Kolja21 (talk) 17:36, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
If the German WP article is about both plays, then it should be moved to a new data item. Hippolytus (Q375786) is the data item for the surviving play by Euripides, not for both plays. Most databases have separate data items for the two plays (or only an entry for the surviving play), and the Wikisource projects have only the surviving play. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:30, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
Yes, that's what I said and that's why scope note (P9570) is important. Kolja21 (talk) 21:00, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
If you would like to create a data item for the other play, that would be the appropriate action. It is inappropriate to add an ID from one play to the data item of a different play. It is rude to reprove someone for correcting and pointing out your mistake by telling them how you want them to fix the problem, instead of taking your own advice and doing it yourself. If you need help creating the data item, you can ask. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:35, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
Well, deleting all the info was not careful and pretty rude. And of cause you didn't ask. The item still needs a cleanup. Kolja21 (talk) 21:10, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

@Jahl de Vautban: Tu es l'expert de la Grèce antique. Pourrais-tu jeter un coup d'œil aux les trois notices d'autorité ? Il existe 24 articles sur Wikipédia et il n'est pas clair s'ils font référence à une seule version de la pièce. --Kolja21 (talk) 23:54, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

P.-S. : L'abréviation TITAN = Fichier d'autorité des ouvrages anciens. Référence: Werke des Altertums : "Grundsätzlich orientiert sich die Bestimmung des Einheitssachtitels an TITAN, der Normdatei für antike Werke." Kolja21 (talk) 00:23, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Hallo Kolja, ich habe ein Paar Wikipedia-Artikeln gelesen und ich glaube die meiste sind über die erhaltene Version, d. h. die zweite Fassung "Hippolytus stephanēphoros"; die erste Fassung "Hippolytus kalyptomenos" ist nur en passant erwähnt als Textsgeschichte. Wir wissen gar nicht genung um ein voll Artikel über "Hippolytus kalyptomenos" zu schreiben. So:
✓ Done Hallo Jahl, danke für die schnelle Rückmeldung! Jetzt müsste alles stimmen. --Kolja21 (talk) 01:18, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Mark J. Smyth (Q38544864)

It was from a userspace draft - seems to be correct though? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:56, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi Martin, if you click on 1094848794 it says: "Datensatz ist nicht mehr Bestandteil der Gemeinsamen Normdatei (GND)". The ID was a placeholder (undifferentiated). There were 7 million of these IDs, see de:Gemeinsame Normdatei#Umfang. --Kolja21 (talk) Kolja21 (talk) 17:05, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Domenico Cambareri

Hi! https://d-nb.info/gnd/135812151 is described as Domenico Cambareri (Q116759131): Italian military and local historian, but the two works I see in https://viaf.org/viaf/80266376/ are by Domenico Cambareri (Q116114714): Italian priest and theologian (1981-). Could we check together all the connected works and disentangle them? I have made fixes in SBN today but they aren't visible yet. --Epìdosis 14:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

All the works about Ernst Jünger (those present in Kallias) are by a third person, Domenico Cambareri (Q116759288): Italian philosopher. --Epìdosis 14:49, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your detailed research. When the changes in SBN are visible I will gladly create the two missing GNDs. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:37, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
Changes now visible. --Epìdosis 14:52, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Hi Epìdosis:
--Kolja21 (talk) 21:23, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
PS: GND 135812151 (DE-Y2) has been created for the author of these 5 articles (published 2006-2016). --Kolja21 (talk) 21:41, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
I know ... SBN updates are complex, different URL formatters correspond to different aspects of SBN with different update schedules. The URL formatter used in Wikidata is valid for all SBN IDs, but takes a longer time to update (so hasn't been updated yet); however, the updates are already visible using another URL formatter, the one without trailing "?core=autoriall", so see https://opac.sbn.it/risultati-autori/-/opac-autori/detail/RAVV217625 and https://opac.sbn.it/risultati-autori/-/opac-autori/detail/PALV078708 and https://opac.sbn.it/risultati-autori/-/opac-autori/detail/SBNV099317 (and the "Documenti collegati" of them) ... I had to specify this, sorry. The 5 articles in gateway-bayern are all by Domenico Cambareri (Q116759131): Italian military and local historian, while the documents in Kallias regarding Ernst Jünger are by Domenico Cambareri (Q116759288): Italian philosopher. --Epìdosis 07:50, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

A little explanation about SBN updates of authority records; authority records are reachable through two formatter URLs, which refer to two different mirrors of Indice SBN (the Indice SBN is the database which is periodically reflected into the OPAC SBN) and these two mirrors have different update schedules:

--Epìdosis 20:46, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Thanks for the detailed explanations. All three persons now have a GND. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:39, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Q116764385

Hello Kolja21,

A user from he.wiki made some research about Abraham Adolf Jacobus (Q116764385).
There are 5 enteries in VIAF:

Seems that all of them are the same person. The two J9U united already. I'm wondering if you can check the two GND id's.
a. https://portal.dnb.de/opac.htm?method=simpleSearch&cqlMode=true&query=nid%3D127132422 the reference is the book which written by Abraham Adolf Jacobus (Q116764385). The J9U mentions the Hebrew translation of the same book.
b. https://portal.dnb.de/opac.htm?method=simpleSearch&cqlMode=true&query=nid%3D1055169296 seems to be the same person. Just regarding to the death year. It was taken from a the persons grave (Jerusalem). Was also wondering about the source for 1979.
Can you check this please. Geagea (talk) 09:18, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi Geagea, thanks for noticing. Adolf Jacobus made his Ph.D. at the University of Erlangen (1914) and lived in Berlin. After his emigration he changed his name to Abraham Jacobus. His "official" year of death is 1979 but of cause Deutsches Biographisches Archiv (Q1205568) and Jewish Biographical Archive (Q76665205) can be wrong. I've filed a report for the duplicate GND. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:18, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

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Possible change in IRIS-GND list

Hi! In the long discussion at Wikidata talk:Gruppo Wikidata per Musei, Archivi e Biblioteche/IRIS#Collaborazioni e corsi - GND IMHO something useful emerged: the method of adding reports writing them down in pages in the namespace Wikidata has some disadvantages, mainly due to the reports being outside ns0 (so they cannot be queried; users may inadvertently readd reports already filed months ago etc.). I tried to elaborate a method allowing reports (and their answers) to be entered entirely using ns0 and it seems to work finely. I prepared a prototype at User:Epìdosis/GND novalue. My proposal would be to insert it in the architecture under Property talk:P227 and then to stop adding new reports under the monthly subpages of Wikidata:Gruppo Wikidata per Musei, Archivi e Biblioteche/IRIS/GND, which I would keep with their present titles; these pages from Wikidata:Gruppo Wikidata per Musei, Archivi e Biblioteche/IRIS/GND/2022/01 to Wikidata:Gruppo Wikidata per Musei, Archivi e Biblioteche/IRIS/GND/2023/01 would remain as they are (and answers would continue to be added to them), whilst new reports (not only concerning Italian researchers, but potentially also other researchers) would be added in ns0 and would automatically fall into the new Listeria-generated page; when a GND is added to one of the items containing a new-style report, the item automatically disappears from the list at the next Listeria update. Altogether I would judge it a more efficient report method, but I will proceed as you prefer; if you judge better to keep the present reporting method through monthly pages, I'm fine with keeping it; otherwise, I will proceed as proposed above. Thanks as always! --Epìdosis 14:27, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

User:Epìdosis/GND novalue looks good and I'll be happy to work with this list. @Raymond: This concerns the maintenance list de:Kategorie:Wikipedia:GND in Wikipedia fehlt, in Wikidata vorhanden ("Fälle, in denen bei Wikidata unter der Eigenschaft GND-Kennung (P227) 'Kein Wert' eingetragen ist, werden ebenfalls in dieser Kategorie erfasst, können aber ignoriert werden (false positive)." --Kolja21 (talk) 18:00, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
PS: I've changed DNB work → DNB edition, see Wikidata:WikiProject Books: work (GND) vs edition (DNB). --Kolja21 (talk) 18:06, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! So I moved my subpage to Property talk:P227/human/wanted/no value/DNB edition and I moved there reports from IRIS/GND/2023/02 (now deleted); reports from 2022/01 to 2023/01 remain in their present pages and will be managed in the old way, while new reports will appear in the new table. --Epìdosis 23:17, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
Perfect. Thanks! --Kolja21 (talk) 23:18, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the new GNDs you are creating! I'm sorry for possible duplications of the old IRIS/GND lists into the new one; fortunately, if you solve the old lists before the new one, the solved cases will automatically disappear from the new list, so the duplication is only partial. Anyway, I see that the situation is worsening, with more long useless discussions outside ns0 ... probably @Emu, MisterSynergy: it's time to add a new section into this for a check. I have an academic deadline on Monday evening (my first year of PhD is getting busy now ...), so unfortunately I doubt I have time to appropriately summarize the situation there until that date, but I would support you doing it. Thanks and have a good weekend, --Epìdosis 08:43, 24 February 2023 (UTC) P.S. and of course thanks again @MisterSynergy: for the bot-addition of GNDs from VIAFs you are starting

Good luck with your PhD! --Kolja21 (talk) 16:54, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Madkur

Q116864545 und Mohamed Sallam Madkour (Q109138386) könnten doch der gleiche sein: Lebensdaten ~1900–1996. Islamische Rechtswissenschaftler sind meist sehr langlebig und arbeiten auch noch im halbtoten Zustand. Vg -- Dawn Shaughnessy (talk) 20:49, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

War auch meine Vermutung, aber die BSB hat die verknüpften Titel überprüft, siehe User talk:3aFW#Normdaten (GND) der Stabi Berlin. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:50, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Der bayerische Staatsdiener schreibt
Zu den beiden Personen mit gleichem Namen habe ich leider keine weiteren Infos als die bisher schon bekannten, d.h. zu dem, der 1937 ein Buch veröffentlicht hat, haben wir nichts weiter.
Ich sehe da kein Dementi.--Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade (talk) 09:27, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
Ok, ich habe "verschieden von" in "eventuell gleichwertig" geändert. Zusammenlegen würde ich die beiden Datenobjekte aber nur, wenn es einen eindeutigen Nachweis gibt, dass die beiden Personen identisch sind. Mehr als bei der DNB und der BSB nachzufragen, können wir, was die Normdaten betrifft, nicht machen. Vielleicht gibt es ja irgendwann einmal einen Wikipedia-Artikel zu dem Islamwissenschaftler. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:59, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

(Zu den beiden Usern siehe Wikidata:Requests for checkuser/Case/MrProperLawAndOrder.)

David Killingray

Hallo, könntest du dir vielleicht David Killingray (Q107107300) anschauen, speziell im Hinblick auf die Cluster VIAF:162750142 und VIAF:305123615? Meine erste Intuition ist, dass irgendwer 1959 in eine Normdatei geschrieben hat und das wurde fortgeschrieben und wir haben Dubletten (inkl. GND). Oder sind es doch zwei Personen? Hm … --Emu (talk) 11:51, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

GND 172185602 (DE-605‏) ist mit 11 Titeln verknüpft, die zumindest überwiegend von dem 1939 geborenen Historiker stammen.
Falsch ist:
Vermutlich falsch ist:
Über einen David Killingray (geb. 1959) habe ich nichts im Netz gefunden, daher gehe ich auch von einem Tippfehler aus. Das Geburtsjahr in GND 172185602 habe ich korrigiert und den Datensatz als Dublette gemeldet. Sollte es doch einen David Killingray (geb. 1959) geben, müsste für ihn eine neue GND angelegt werden. --Kolja21 (talk) 20:09, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Giuseppe Sandri

Hi! I see that GND has an ID for Giuseppe Sandri (Q1528629): Italian Catholic bishop (1946-2019) but not for Giuseppe Sandri (Q116809747): Italian priest and Bible scholar (1906-1985); I doubt works of the second may be wrongly attributed to the first. Could we check them together? Thanks, --Epìdosis 15:04, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

SBNV099513: "Nessun risultato trovato". I've to wait. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:52, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
I see ... updates usually are on Monday or Tuesday. --Epìdosis 07:52, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done --Kolja21 (talk) 01:41, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Sō̜nphachan Thavīkham (Q116937990)

Hallo Kolja,

ist Sō̜nphachan Thavīkham Thai oder Lao? Den Vornamen könnte man wörtlich als "Royal Highness" verstehen.-- Herrenloses Damenfahrrad (talk) 10:35, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

@Emu: Was machen wir mit den Edits der neuen Sockenpuppe? Keine Ahnung, woher er das th-label rauskopiert hat. Als unbelegt zurücksetzen? BTW: Auch Silke hat Post bekommen, siehe de:Benutzerin Diskussion:Silewe#Personen mit GND aber ohne Vorlage:Normdaten. --Kolja21 (talk) 15:40, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
Es scheint hier keinen wirklichen Konsens zu geben, was bitter ist. Unbelegtes würde ich revertieren. --Emu (talk) 16:07, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Valentina Bandiera

In https://d-nb.info/gnd/1246705540 Firenze is probably the place of activity, not of death (no sign of her death online). --Epìdosis 09:29, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Valentina Bandiera (Q104582912): Italian librarian and philologist (1990-). Of course Firenze = Florenz and the librarian is still alive. (As suspected, copied from "Università degli Studi di Firenze" and entered in the wrong field.) Thanks for the hint! --Kolja21 (talk) 18:48, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Ondřej Horák

https://d-nb.info/gnd/1120601959 seems born in Sydney (cs:Ondřej Horák (výtvarník)). --Epìdosis 17:31, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm confused. Are the two writers cleanly separated?
@Vojtěch Dostál:: Can you take a look? --Kolja21 (talk) 06:31, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
PS: If Česká Wikipedie is correct GND 1120601959 is a conflation. --Kolja21 (talk) 07:20, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

E. Appert

Hi! https://d-nb.info/gnd/1144372232 seems to be a conflation between these brothers Eugène-Leon and Ernest-Charles Appert (Q65069081), which also seem to confuse English Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons, LC and many others ... --Epìdosis 15:11, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done I've separated the two photographers. @Epìdosis: Is there a third person? IdRef 186054335 for Appert, Eugène (1830-1891 ; photographe) has following annotation: "Ne pas confondre avec Eugène Appert peintre." --Kolja21 (talk) 16:12, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
Found him: Eugène Appert (Q3059697): French painter (1814-1867). --Kolja21 (talk) 16:15, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Hoe-cha̕ng Yi

Is https://d-nb.info/gnd/133954404 Lee Hoi-chang (Q496509) or Chang Y. Lee (Q112529055)? I'm unsure. Thanks, --Epìdosis 09:42, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

GND 133954404 (DE-1) = Yi, Hoe-cha̕ng; 1935-
  • Author of The future of the Korean peninsula and Northeast Asian security (2005)
  • Source: LCAuth should be LCAuth nr98010863
Match with Lee Hoi-chang (Q496509): South Korean politician. I'll see if I can create a GND for the namesake. --Kolja21 (talk) 10:11, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Peter van de Ploeg

Hi! There seems to be some confusion in GND between Peter van der Ploeg (Q112522148): Dutch art historian (1965-) and Peter van der Ploeg (Q65178923): Dutch painter (1954-); the first has 2 IDs, the second (https://d-nb.info/gnd/124928390) seems to have some works of the first (as far as I can see from VIAF). Could you have a look? Thanks, --Epìdosis 10:26, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Indeed, the 3 titles were linked incorrectly. I've filed a report. @Epìdosis: It looks like there are two Peter van der Ploeg (b. 1965):
  • "Ploeg, Peter van der, 1965 March 8-" (LCAuth n97082587) = writer; author of Volle maan (1997) and Vier vrouwen (2000)
  • "Ploeg, Peter van der, 1965-" (LCAuth nb2009010899) = art historian
As fare as I see Q112522148 was created for the art historian. --Kolja21 (talk) 11:09, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
I agree effectively. I had seen that some libraries distinguished them, but the attribution of works is quite chaotic and I hypothesized that the distinction didn't exist; however, NTA describes them as clearly different; DBNL surely conflates (attributes the birth date of the writer to the works of the art historian ...). Created Peter van der Ploeg (Q116981359): Dutch psychiatrist and writer (1965-), now the situation should be OK. --Epìdosis 11:31, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! About the former job of the writer: Imho psychiatrist (Q211346) is a little exaggerated. "Psychiatrisch verpleegkundige" sounds more like nurse (Q186360). --Kolja21 (talk) 11:44, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Zwei Fälle

Hallo Kolja21, ich habe hier noch zwei Fälle, bei denen ich nicht weiß wie die VIAF+GND-Situation gelöst werden soll:

Soweit ich das verstehe, sind die aus diesen Datenobjekten verlinkten VIAF-Cluster Vermischungen; die Datenobjekte beschreiben paarweise *vermutlich* aber der ursprünglichen Intention nach dieselbe Person. Wie würdest Du das machen? (Du kannst auch einfach ohne Diskussion machen, dann schaue ich mir das danach an.) Viele Grüße! —MisterSynergy (talk) 21:45, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Die beiden Brodys sind identisch und wurde für die gleiche Person (Musikpädagoge) angelegt. Auch die GND passt. Schritt 1 ist klar: Ich habe die beiden Datenobjekte zusammengeführt. Im 2. Schritt müsste man die Namensvetter aus den beiden VIAF-Clustern rausfischen und für jeden von ihnen einen eigenes Datenobjekt anlegen, aber LCAuth n2015043799 (Zaydee's Passover Haggadah, 2013) ist leider nur schwach individualisiert. Ich habe daher vorerst den entsprechenden VIAF-Cluster als Vermischung gekennzeichnet und gehe später noch mal in Ruhe die einzelnen Normdatensätze durch. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:05, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Carmen Pérez González (Q93428216) hätte so gar nicht angelegt werden dürfen: Beschreibung fehlt und nur eine Eigenschaft: Geburtsdatum 1969. Als Fundstelle wird VIAF 39042099 mit Stand vom 2. Mai 2020 genannt. LCAuth nennt kein Geburtsjahr und die Universität-Barcelona-ID ist nicht mehr abrufbar. Bleibt nur ISNI, die sich überwiegend auf eine Juristin bezieht. Das Geburtsjahr 1969 stammt von einer Namensvetterin: Carmen Pérez González (n. 1969, en Valencia; Lic. en Ciencias Físicas y fotógrafo), importiert aus BNE XX1588525. Der Datensatz war also von Anfang an eine Vermischung. @Bargioni: Creating an item like Q93428216 based on VIAF is not useful. It was a conflation from the beginning. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:24, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
@MisterSynergy: Soviel fürs Erste. Die Details schaue ich mir morgen an und melde mich, wenn Q93428216 gelöscht werden kann. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:52, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Alles klar, Danke für den Einsatz! —MisterSynergy (talk) 22:53, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Die beiden Fälle sind soweit erledigt:
  1. Bei dem Musikpädagogen und Komponisten Martin Brody gibt es eine IdRef-Dublette. Ein Titel ist falsch verknüpft und stammt von dem Librettisten M[ax] Brody (Q640926). VIAF mischt mit LCAuth n2015043799. Ein schwach individualisierter Namensvetter. Soweit möglich, habe ich das in Wikidata dokumentiert.
  2. @MisterSynergy: Kannst du Q93428216 bitte löschen? Die Aussagen und Identifikatoren sind jetzt klar getrennt:
--Kolja21 (talk) 07:47, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done —MisterSynergy (talk) 07:51, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

DNB-Editionen-ID

Hallo Kolja21. Deine Revertierung des GND-Eintrags auf Blinde Göttin von Anne Holt war sachlich durchaus okay. Meine versuchte Lösung war eher notgedrungen. Mir wollte nicht einleuchten, dass eine vorhandene Eintrag-ID in der Nationalbibliothek keinen Eingang in die Wikidata-Database fände. Die von dir vogeschlagene DNB-Editionen-ID war mir bis dato unbekannt. Ich werde sie fortan benutzen, denn ich lerne gern Nützliches dazu.

Allerdings muss ich kritisch zur derzeitigen deutschen Bezeichnung DNB-Editionen-ID anmerken, dass ich sie für misslungen und änderunsgbedürftig halte. Begründung: Mit dieser numerischen ID-Kennung werden gar keine Editionen unterschieden, sondern das all diesen Ausgaben/Editionen (Hardcover, Taschenbuch, Hörbuch, Neuübersetzung) zugrundeliegende literarische Werk gekennzeichnet. Korrekt wäre daher DNB-Literaturwerk-ID oder das schon vorhandene DNB-Medienkennung.

Erstaunt hat mich der Sachverhalt, dass es diese Property schon 8 Jahre gibt, mir aber nie begegnet ist. Anscheinend kaum in Gebrauch. Zwar habe ich die Wikidata-News tatsächlich seit Jahren abonniert auf Wp-de. Nur habe ich die Lust verloren, diese häufiger auch zu lesen. Zuviel Uninteressantes, rein Softwaretechnisches darin, ich habe den Eindruck es ist von Programmierern für Programmierer gemacht. Ganz schlechtes Kommunikationskonzept, wenn man Nicht-Nerds wie mich ansprechen will. Indes scheint's so zu sein, dass es den dafür Verantwortlichen noch nie aufgefallen und möglicherweise sowieso egal ist. Sonst hätte sich über die Jahre längst was daran geändert.

MfG, Just N. (talk) 13:26, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Hallo Justus, auf der Seite des WikiProjekts Bücher wird auf die Unterscheidung zwischen Werk und Edition näher eingegangen. Dort gab es auch gerade erst eine Diskussion zur Bennung der Eigenschaft, siehe Wikidata talk:WikiProject Books#renamed property P1292. Strenggenommen dürfte dem Werk Blind Goddess (Q104638984) nur eine GND zugeordnet werden. Für jede Auflage oder Übers. (= Edition) soll ein gesondertes Datenobjekt (mit ISBN, DNB-Medienkennung etc.) angelegt werden. --Kolja21 (talk) 13:43, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Danke für die Infos! Ich sehe im verlinkten Disk-Abschnitt, dass - wie befürchtet - die Sache doch ziemlich unklar und umstritten ist. Der Admin, der da Vollbracht zurückgesetzt hat, scheint den grundlegenden Sachverhalt (siehe oben) nicht zu sehen. Denn es ist durchaus eine andere, zweite Sache, ob man zu einer weiteren Ausdifferenzierung (sprich: Ausgaben/Editionen) hin will zukünftig, wie Du ja schilderst, oder ob man für eine vorhandene DNB-Literaturwerk-ID (Singular) heute schon eine Bezeichnung DNB-Editionen-ID mit "Editionen" (Plural) vergibt. Bis man die Ausdifferenzierung, für jede Produktform eigene, ausdifferenzierte Properties eingerichtet hat, ist indes noch viel Arbeit hineinzustecken. Zu bedenken ist dabei notwendigerweise, dass die DNB-Bibliothekare bisher nicht erkennbar bereit sind, solche Audifferenzierung mit eigenen Daten-Struktur-IDs zu beliefern. Also wäre alles nur Wikidata-seitig implementiert. Ich habe große Zweifel, dass es dazu angesichts des Aufwands tatsächlich kommen wird. Man wird sehen. -- Just N. (talk) 15:23, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
In der Bezeichnung "Literaturwerk" steckt der Begriff "Werk", und damit sind wir wieder bei der GND. Die Rücksetzung erfolgte, weil die Änderung ohne Absprache und in Widerspruch zu vergleichbaren Eigenschaften getätigt wurde. Was meinst du mit, "dass die DNB-Bibliothekare bisher nicht erkennbar bereit sind, solche Ausdifferenzierung mit eigenen Daten-Struktur-IDs zu beliefern"? Für Bibliotheken, und das gilt international, ist die Unterscheidung klar: Es gibt Normdatensätze (Personen, Körperschaften, Werke etc.) und es gibt einzelne Ausgaben (Medien wie Bücher, CDs, elektronische Publikationen etc.). Für das Werk, den Roman Les Misérables (Q180736), steht GND 4139746-0, während die einzelnen Ausgaben eine eigene Signatur erhalten (DNB-ID). Analog unterscheidet Wikidata bei dem Roman zwischen literary work (Q7725634) und version, edition or translation (Q3331189). Beispiel: Q180736#P747. --Kolja21 (talk) 17:11, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Garioponto

Hallo Kolja! An Garioponto (Q16558488) hat das VIAF gearbeitet, leider sind noch zwei IDs. Um DEWP gibt ein Fehlermeldung mit alles vier IDs; wie kann man zeigen, dass ein Teil gelöst ist? --Jahl de Vautban (talk) 09:29, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Ich habe die beiden zusammengeführten Dubletten in de:WP:GND/Fehlermeldung/Dezember 2021 durchgestrichen. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:35, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Luca Gianni

Looking at the description and the publications of https://d-nb.info/gnd/135936128, it seems to conflate the two Luca Gianni we have in Wikidata. Could you disentangle? Thanks! --Epìdosis 11:31, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing:
I've filed a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 15:52, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Friederike Berger

As far as I can see from https://viaf.org/viaf/3733154741643553110002/, "Handschrift öffne dich 20 Jahre Handschriftenzentrum Leipzig" and "Textgeschichte der "Historia animalium" des Aristoteles" have a wrong attribution in GND. Could you check? Thanks, --Epìdosis 22:55, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I've filed a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 23:17, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. They were also conflated in SBN, solved now (although not yet visible, as usual). --Epìdosis 09:21, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Johannes Günther

Hallo Kolja!

Mit Johannes Günther (Q95887340) stimmt irgendetwas nicht: Laut GND ein Publizist fl. 1853-1864, bei NUKAT (und damit auch VIAF) ist eine Pharmazie-Dissertation von 1961 verzeichnet.

Mfg, Birgit Kyrath (talk) 11:08, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Schon wieder ein neuer Benutzername? Die falsche NUKAT wurde von Matlin hinzugefügt, dessen Account bekanntlich gesperrt ist. --Kolja21 (talk) 15:07, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Benutzer gesperrt. --Emu (talk) 15:39, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Filippo Monti

https://d-nb.info/gnd/136148514 has a wrong death date, see Filippo Monti (Q41733389). Thanks, --Epìdosis 15:33, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

1997 is the date of publication. (I've corrected the error.) Filippo Monti: "Un pittore della luce", Renato Albonetti, pp. 16-17. Same person? --Kolja21 (talk) 13:09, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Yes, this Filippo Monti has written a lot of works about people and things connected to Faenza. --Epìdosis 19:54, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. I'm busy these days and will complement the GND later. --Kolja21 (talk) 23:19, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done --Kolja21 (talk) 17:27, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Franco Clivio

https://d-nb.info/gnd/1012566323 the reference to Cremona seems a confusion with the homonym Franco Clivio (Q3751225): Italian writer and pharmacist (1935-2016). Thanks, --Epìdosis 16:48, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

I can't change additions in brackets. "Geburtsort: Cremona (vielm. Zürich)" means Cremona is wrong, instead (vielmehr) Zürich. Unusual and confusing statement but correct. --Kolja21 (talk) 17:36, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Raffaele Sabato

I'm not sure to understand who https://viaf.org/viaf/309681027/ means to be; there are two homonyms active in the judicial sector. Thanks, --Epìdosis 11:18, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

DE7 = Göttingen State and University Library (Q564783). They have many weak individualized GNDs (Tp6). Raffaele Sabato, Avvocato is the author of Il Diritto civile italiano ... --Kolja21 (talk) 17:55, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
PS: The source was LCAuth. Now clearly separated:
--Kolja21 (talk) 10:10, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Kalliope

Hi! I have just discovered the existence of Kalliope-Verbund (GND) ID (P9964); just about 100 uses, surely redundant with GND ID (P227) (it was noticed by Jura in the proposal, in fact, but it was nevertheless created). I'm thinking of proposing its deletion ... would I be wrong? Thanks, --Epìdosis 16:01, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Kalliope uses GND but it's an independent database = de:Vorlage:Kalliope. I don't know why Wikidata property example (P1855) only shows GNDs. There are other identifiers like CH-002121-2-991170522280805501 = Sokrates und das Göttliche von Hans-Georg Gadamer. Imho formatter URL (P1630) (and the values?) needs to be corrected. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:22, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
OK. As of now the property is scoped for humans and organizations; they are all present in GND, right? If so, we could erase all the present values of the property (you could propose in the property talk page) and rescope it for documents. Would you agree? --Epìdosis 13:10, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

I don't know the best course of action. I've moved the discussion to Property talk:P9964#Other identifiers than GND. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:30, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

GND reveal

Hello Kolja21,

I have used the tool GND reveal like her. it might be a problem? Geagea (talk) 19:42, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi Geagea, GND reveal works quite well but you have to fix minor problems by hand. "Quelle" (source) is interpreted as "official website" and the year of birth is sometimes not imported. --Kolja21 (talk) 20:01, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
I reported Quelle problem time ago, I hope it will be solved soon. I solicited. --Epìdosis 20:15, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
I see your point, but do I have the ability to edit the batch created by GND reveal? Geagea (talk) 20:30, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Not that I know. I just run the batch and then check the edits. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:43, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Q41237670 und Q41237618

Moin! Eine Knacknuss!

Ist die selbe Kirche. Sieht auf den ersten Blick nicht so aus, aber Zitat de:Alfalter: „Alfalter ist ein Gemeindeteil der Gemeinde Vorra im Landkreis Nürnberger Land (Mittelfranken, Bayern).“ (fett von mir) Und in GND 1033294896 sind auch beide Namen.

In de:St. Katharina (Alfalter) hab ich die Normdaten rausgekegelt, weil die DNB wohl Vorra bevorzugt. --Wurgl (talk) 07:40, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Hallo Wurgl, ich habe erst mal nur "eventuell gleichwertig" eingefügt, da sich die beiden Datenobjekte in "ist Teil von" und der Commons-Kategorie unterscheiden. "BLfD-ID" und "BDA-Baudenkmal-ID" differenzieren ebenfalls zwischen Vorra und Alfalter. Die GND habe ich dem älteren Datenobjekt zugeordnet. @Der Bauernseufzer: Kannst du mal schauen, ob man die beiden Einträge zusammenführen kann? --Kolja21 (talk) 16:55, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Paul Duport

Hi! https://d-nb.info/gnd/1100361340 is surely wrong, it is "Paul Duport" as evident from e.g. https://viaf.org/viaf/44432592/ and https://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb44890567x, so it should be merged into https://d-nb.info/gnd/11625369X. Thanks! --Epìdosis 09:24, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Looks like a typo (Dupont/Duport) but GND 1100361340 created by DE-Wi17FP, i.e. filmportal.de (Q15706812) = Paul Dupont (Q117458771), an unknown musician. DNB wrongly links a title belonging to the librettiste Paul Duport (Q19629451). I've filed a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 17:47, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Werner Krüger

Hi! Today I was trying to reorder the works of "Werner Krüger" in OPAC SBN (these 10 works) and I found that recently you created many items in Wikidata to make the situation more understandable. Regarding SBN, Ein beitrag zur Darstellungskunst des T. Livius (2.,21,5-2,33) is surely by Werner Krüger (Q117049257): German classicist (1913-) (already created in SBN, but not yet visible); then Werner Kruger : Bonner Kunstverein, [Bonn], 4.5-28.5.1972 seems to be an art exposition (maybe Paul Krüger (Q117050570): German painter (1911-1964) or Werner Krüger (Q117049178): German photographer and author (1937-)?); the other 8 works seem to be by the same person, an art historian apparently active in 1972 and in the 1990s about whom I cannot find more infos (and still not present in Wikidata) ... if he was active already in 1972, he may have also written in 1976 this Kandinsky und ich. Could you help me? Thanks, --Epìdosis 10:19, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Werner Krüger (Q117049178): German photographer and author (1937-) was very active but has no article in German Wikipedia:
  • Werner Krüger: 1937 geboren, malt, schreibt ; Bonner Kunstverein, 4.5. - 28.5.1972
  • Author of Künstler im Gespräch. Documenta-Documente (c 1984)
    • Titles like Joseph Beuys / intervistato da Werner Krueger are apparently his
  • I couldn't verify: Kandinsky und ich / Nina Kandinsky [unter Mitarbeit von Werner Krüger], see Q117049178#P269
--Kolja21 (talk) 18:47, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Kandinsky und ich. "Dieses Buch stellte Werner Krüger nach authentischen Tonbandaufzeichnungen zusammen."[2] So I assume the author is the 1937 born Krüger but the name is very common in Germany. Also no information if he is still alive. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:05, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
@Dla archiv 1: In Kallías ist das Buch Kandinsky und ich PE00095716 zugeordnet. Vermutlich sind unter dieser ID zwei Personen vermischt. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:24, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll complete the fix in SBN and I will try to have it disentangled also in IDREF accordingly. --Epìdosis 19:25, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Bei PE00095716 handelt es sich im Katalog des DLA Marbach leider um eine nicht-individualisierte Person (wie die nicht mehr genutzten Pn-Sätze aus der NND / GND). Hier ist also allein der Namen hinterlegt. Ja, gut möglich, dass hier verschiedene Personen "in einen Topf geworfen" wurden - vor allem können wir den Namen eben leider auch nicht sicher einem Personen-Normdatensatz zuordnen und deswegen das Werk nicht dem richten Bearbeiter zuordnen. Dla archiv 1 (talk) 15:10, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
@Dla archiv 1: Danke für Rückmeldung. Ich wusste nicht, dass es nicht-individualisierte PE-Datensätze gibt. Lassen sie sich automatisch identifizieren? Ansonsten haben wir das Problem, dass sie unter Kallías ID (P9918) als gültige Normdaten von Wikidata importiert werden. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:34, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
@Kolja21 Leider lassen sich die nicht-individualisierten Personendatensätze nicht automatisch über einen extern sichtbaren Identifier identifizieren. Man erkennt sie lediglich daran, dass der Datensatz aus nichts weiter als dem Namen besteht. Im DLA Katalog sieht das so aus, dass der Reiter "weiteren Details" bis auf den Hinweis "Medienart: Normdaten" und den Textstring des Namens bei "Person" keine weiteren Inhalte hat. Die Problematik ist auch in den FAQ zum OPAC unter dem Punkt 'Welche Suchmöglichkeiten habe ich für Personen, Körperschaften und Namen?' kurz geschildert. Dla archiv 1 (talk) 08:15, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Giuseppe Mirabella

Hi! As of now in GND I see only two Giuseppe Mirabella; however, Giuseppe Mirabella (Q117707823): Italian economist (1913-1988) I just created surely wrote works present in German libraries; effectively, I found some here (Dislocazione dualistica della economia italiana, Le integrazioni die redditività nell'incontro dei fini dell'economia privata e dell'economia pubblica - "di" not "die" - and La organizationi di redditività nell'incontro dei fini dell economia privata e dell'economia pubblica - "organizzazioni" not "organizationi" and "dell'economia" not "dell economia"). Does it allow to create an ID? Thanks, --Epìdosis 14:29, 14 April 2023 (UTC) P.S. Giuseppe Mirabella is conflated in LC, in SUDOC (but I will probably manage to solve it) and in SBN (solved a few minutes ago, it will be visible in a few weeks)

The more general questions are: 1) given that, if a work is present in DNB catalogue with a not-disambiguated author, the author ID can be created (= Property_talk:P227/human/wanted/no_value/DNB_edition and previously Wikidata:Gruppo Wikidata per Musei, Archivi e Biblioteche/IRIS/GND), is this inference valid also if a work of a not-disambiguated author is present in a catalogue "contributing" to GND? 2) if the first is true, is there a list of the catalogues "contributing" to GND and possibly a way to search the works present in all/most of them all at once? Thanks! --Epìdosis 14:37, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Hi Epìdosis, every German library and many archives are using GND, see Partner der GND. The same way we use DNB edition ID (P1292) you can use B3Kat dataset ID (P6123), K10plus PPN ID (P6721) and, for Austria, OBV edition ID (P6201) to indicate that a GND is missing. I use Karlsruher Virtueller Katalog (Q452795) for finding literature. The other way around: de:Vorlage:Normdaten#OGND und AKS creates a link called "All Known Sources" (AKS). Example: Dante with 116 References for GND 118523708. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:09, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
I've create a GND missing note for the economist: Q117707823#P227. Just ping me when SBN is visible and I will create the GND. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Great! I have edited Property_talk:P227/human/wanted/no_value/DNB_edition#Listeria in order to take into account not only DNB edition but also the other 3 ones you listed above, so that now Giuseppe Mirabella appears in the list. I will write you when my SBN edits on this group of homonyms become visible. Thanks as always and have a good weekend! --Epìdosis 12:08, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Tsz

According to other VIAF members etc., John Tsz Pang Lai (Q113801162) is Tsz, not Tzs (https://d-nb.info/gnd/1027986943). --Epìdosis 17:24, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Indeed, looks like a typo. I've filed a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 20:22, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Giuseppe Mirabelli

This book https://bvbat01.bib-bvb.de/TP61/singleHit.do?methodToCall=showHit&curPos=1&identifier=1_SOLR_SERVER_116469599 is surely by Giuseppe Mirabelli (Q117707596): Italian magistrate and jurist (1915-2005). My SBN isn't yet visible, it will become visible together with the Giuseppe Mirabella in the thread above. But I write now in order not to forget it. Bye, --Epìdosis 13:17, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

This Giuseppe Mirabelli, and the Giuseppe Mirabella just above, are now visible in SBN. --Epìdosis 09:34, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done Thanks. I've created GND 1286988691 for him. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:44, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Amy Briggs

Something strange in Amy Briggs (Q98804018): according to https://viaf.org/viaf/233290848/, the bibliographic records of https://d-nb.info/gnd/138565201 are pertinent with the person working at National Geographics ... but GND says she's a musician. Conflation, I guess? Thanks, --Epìdosis 17:51, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing:
I've created a GND for the editor working at National Geographics and filed a report for the title that is incorrectly linked. --Kolja21 (talk) 20:47, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! I would add that the pianist seems duplicated, as also https://d-nb.info/gnd/1014589827 exists. --Epìdosis 21:13, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
Sure, already done (see de:WP:GND/F). --Kolja21 (talk) 21:15, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
Hi Jiří @Frettie: I suspect you've confused the computer game designer Amy Briggs (Q4749120) with the editor Amy Briggs (Q98804018) since the editor is the author of the book Angry Birds Space (c2012).[3] Kolja21 (talk) 21:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
PS: It looks like NL CR AUT ID (P691): mzk20231183517 is a conflation. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:27, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
Hello, it seems, there is mistake in source National library authority record – @Vojtěch Dostál: – what do you think? How to solve this properly? --Frettie (talk) 21:28, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
@Frettie I reported it to them Vojtěch Dostál (talk) 06:04, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
@Epìdosis@Frettie Now fixed in the source, so I took the liberty of removing the outdated statements from Q4749120 as there is no risk of re-addition of these statements. The authority file now refers only to Q98804018. Vojtěch Dostál (talk) 16:25, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Ernst Böhme

Something strange between Ernst Böhme (Q1357721): German theologian (1871-1901) and Ernst Böhme (Q1357715): German theologian (1862-1941): I fear a wrong merge in GND. Thanks, --Epìdosis 09:42, 22 April 2023 (UTC) P.S. this morning I managed to (more or less) empty again Property talk:P227/human/Duplicates

Indeed, a wrong merge ;( Thanks for noticing. --Kolja21 (talk) 17:28, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Help me please redirecting Q117843700 → Q97425738

Help me please redirecting from Q117843700 → Q97425738 (Category:Cameroonian centenarians) added Ukrainian Wikipedia page from w:uk:Категорія:Довгожителі Камеруна --93.157.169.14 18:11, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi, shouldn't uk:Категорія:Довгожителі Камеруна be deleted? en:Paul Biya, the only person in this category, isn't a centenarian. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:16, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Ferdinando Bernini

https://d-nb.info/gnd/1219479756 = Ferdinando Bernini (Q3742554): Italian teacher and politician (1891-1954) has wrongly 1861 as birth year. Thanks, --Epìdosis 16:42, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Corrected. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:43, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Tesi di laurea - Luciano Berti

Hi! https://d-nb.info/1191556859 is by https://d-nb.info/gnd/117705268 (missing death date = Luigi Puccianti (Q3840066): Italian physicist (1875-1952)) + Luciano Berti (Q117985570): Italian physicist (1920-1943), but "tesi di laurea" is not a Verfasser obviously. If you want, you could also create the homonym Luciano Berti (Q117985283): Italian park ranger (1920-), born in 1920 but probably still alive. --Epìdosis 20:59, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

P.S. Looking for similar mistakes, I found one other: here (the true author, as evident from 1 and 2, is https://d-nb.info/gnd/133163229 = Sergio Neri (Q51174801): Italian Indo-Europeanist (1970-)). Thanks --Epìdosis 08:13, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
I've created the missing GNDs and filed a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:59, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Franco Monaco

This book (https://gateway-bayern.de/BV023569234) is not by Franco Monaco (Q24239816): Italian journalist (1915-) (whose GND is missing the birth date) but by Franco Monaco (Q3751437): Italian politician and journalist (1951-) (just fixed in SBN, but my changes aren't visible yet ... always the same story). --Epìdosis 10:19, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

I'll wait ... just let me know when I can start. --Kolja21 (talk) 15:02, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Franco Monaco (Q3751437): Italian politician and journalist (1951-) in SBN visible now. --Epìdosis 08:03, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
Unfortunately I cannot change the catalog entry (by Bibliothek der Europa-Universität Viadrina, Frankfurt/Oder) but I've created GND 1289824339 for the politician (b. 1951). --Kolja21 (talk) 02:30, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Giovanni Biasi

I'm unable to understand who's http://d-nb.info/gnd/1055425276. Could you help me? Thanks, --Epìdosis 11:08, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

GND created by DE-7 = Göttingen State and University Library (Q564783) known for they weakly individualized authority control ids. Since this year they have a new catalog where you can research their GNDs. https://discovery.sub.uni-goettingen.de/1055425276 = Nozioni med.-prat. sopra le acque acidule minerali di Recoaro, del medico locale Giovanni Biasi (1833). Looks like Giovanni Biasi (Q118058957): Italian physician (1796-1847). Please tell me when SBN is visible then I will add the missing information. --Kolja21 (talk) 06:46, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done GND 1055425276 individualized. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:27, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Bruno Forte

The Bruno Forte cited in https://d-nb.info/1120014379 is surely https://d-nb.info/gnd/1075083273, whose birth year 1922 has no source and should be 1928 - died 2002 (= Bruno Forte (Q102183296): Italian mathematician (1928-2002)). Thanks! --Epìdosis 17:35, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

DE-7 again. They created GND 1075083273 (Mathematiker, b. 1922) but linked the title Mathematical modelling of industrial processes to Bruno Forte (Q684969): Italian Catholic archbishop and theologian = GND 121160904. --Kolja21 (talk) 07:07, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done I couldn't find out where the exact birth day (30 June 1922) came from but I've fixed the record. --Kolja21 (talk) 01:54, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Eberhard Karls Universität Tübingen

Hola. La edición que has deshecho pretendía enlazar a un autor en Dialnet y no a un libro. En este caso es un autor - entidad, que no sé si causa problemas de interpretación en Wikidata. Saludos. https://dialnet.unirioja.es/servlet/autor?codigo=3623723 Hampcky (talk) 13:37, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Gracias por tu mensaje. Problema solucionado: Dialnet book ID (P1608) → Dialnet author ID (P1607). --Kolja21 (talk) 14:09, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Onesimos

Hallo Kolja, kannst du an w:de:Onesimus und w:de:Onesimus (Bibel) gucken? Ich glaube, dass es sich um eine Dublette handelt, aber ich kann den Artikel nicht umschreiben. Danke!--Jahl de Vautban (talk) 18:33, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Hallo Jahl, die Frage ist in Wikipedia auch schon aufgekommen, siehe de:Diskussion:Onesimus#Sklave wohl ≠ Bischof. LCAuth beruft sich auf das Book of saints (1966): "Onesimus, who was Bishop of Ephesus after St. Timothy; not same as slave of Philemon." GND fasst die beiden Personen zusammen. Ich habe die Datenobjekte mit "eventuell gleichwertig" verknüpft. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:32, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

GND lädt nicht

Hallo / Dear Kolja,

bist du auch von den technischen Problemen der DNB betroffen? Weißt du Genaueres?--U. M. Owen (talk) 17:25, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi, ich erhalte bei der Deutschen Nationalbibliothek auch nur die Meldung: "Wegen dringender Wartungsarbeiten steht dieser Dienst zur Zeit nicht zur Verfügung." Alternative: Suche über Online-GND
Grüße --Kolja21 (talk) 21:23, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
Siehe auch de:Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia#GND_offline_-_jeder_GND-Link_ohne_Serverantwort M2k~dewiki (talk) 00:11, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Ivan Ščukin

Strange case at Ivan Stchoukine (Q102273387): French art historian of Russian descent (1885-1975): https://d-nb.info/gnd/1265601089 and https://d-nb.info/gnd/1033733083 seem to be clearly the same person; they agree that the father is Sergei Shchukin (Q1371833): Russian art collector (1854-1936), so the correct patronymic is clearly Sergeevič, but strangely the patronymic Vasil'evič (false) is widespread in many authority files ... which leaves me a very small proportion of doubt. What do you think? --Epìdosis 14:25, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

His father was Ivan Vassilievitch Shchukin (1818-1890). So GND 1033733083 might be a mix between his father and his first son Ivan (b. 1886). I'll file a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 17:48, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Claudio Bellinati

Ragnar Holte (Q5812540) = https://d-nb.info/gnd/132824647 with wrong date of birth (evidently misunderstood the date in which he became priest as birth date) and missing death date. Thanks! --Epìdosis 22:40, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done You've meant Claudio Bellinati (Q106694725). I've fixed both. --Kolja21 (talk) 23:17, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

Uwe Meyer

May Uwe Meyer (Q15852299): German association football player and Uwe Meyer (Q99527514): no description be the same person, as VIAF thinks? I have not enough evidence to confirm or not the hypothesis. Thanks, --Epìdosis 10:01, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Why should PD Dr. Uwe Meyer hide his soccer career ;) Imho User:Silewe has created the item for him to avoid confusion. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:47, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Daniel Kerameus

I'm uncertain of the centuries in https://d-nb.info/gnd/102376743, it seems to be Daniēl Kerameus (Q16326951): Greek monk and teacher. Am I wrong? --Epìdosis 21:39, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing. It's the same author (a book published 1804) but with false biographical data. I've filed a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 00:14, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Khomeini

Although it's strange, I think Ruhollah Khomeini (Q113397612): Supreme Leader of Iran from 1979 to 1989 is a duplicate of Ruhollah Khomeini (Q38823): Supreme Leader of Iran from 1979 to 1989. Go on with the merge if I'm right :) --Epìdosis 22:43, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Totally agree. --Kolja21 (talk) 23:59, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Claude Moussy

Claude Moussy (Q113380362): French latinist (1931-2020) GND https://d-nb.info/gnd/124028497 has a wrong date. Thanks, --Epìdosis 09:51, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks but DNB has technical problems. The catalog and the editing function are down. --Kolja21 (talk) 13:24, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
The catalog seems back online, good news. It's annoying having to see GND inside VIAF clusters in the meanwhile ... --Epìdosis 10:51, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Now BnF, a citable source, is offline ;( I've filed a report since I can't edit the addition "(Geburtsjahr ca.)". --Kolja21 (talk) 14:54, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Johann Wilhelm Döring

Johann Wilhelm Döring (Q55679501): no description something strange in its GND https://d-nb.info/gnd/1015718132: death date 1815 as year, but 15.03.1789 as day. Other sources agree on 1815. Could you check? Thanks, --Epìdosis 10:54, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done I couldn't find out where 15.03.1789 came from (probably another person). Hessian Biography (Q14564246) says "died 21.12.1815". I've corrected the error. --Kolja21 (talk) 15:13, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Tadeusz Karolak

Tadeusz Karolak (Q95344553): Polish conductor (1954-2022) wrong date in https://d-nb.info/gnd/135121582. Thanks as always, --Epìdosis 13:24, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Looks complicated. OGND 135121582 says b. 1933. NUKAT has two IDs:
  • NUKAT n93100314: Karolak, Tadeusz (1933-2020)
  • NUKAT n2009165663: Karolak, Tadeusz (dyrygent)
I will take a closer look when the DNB has solved it's technical problems. --Kolja21 (talk) 13:35, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
I think n93100314 is Tadeusz Karolak (Q104413627): Polish priest (1933-2020); they were mixed here, I solved the problem earlier. --Epìdosis 14:03, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done Now correctly separated in GND. Thanks for the important note. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:22, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Abdel Hay Adib

Abdel Hai Adib (Q12222632): Egyptian writer strange 1920 in https://d-nb.info/gnd/1062358961, other sources agree on 1928. --Epìdosis 14:02, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Since Filmportal/GND does not name any sources I will correct the date to 1928. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:20, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done --Kolja21 (talk) 01:19, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Raffaele D'Alessio

In https://d-nb.info/gnd/1151419907 there is a wrong date, per Raffaele D'Alessio (Q111671176): Italian accountant (1973-) (compare SBN). No haste, it's for when GND will come back. Thanks, --Epìdosis 16:38, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Thanks for the hint. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:30, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

B. J. Morse

Benjamin Joseph Morse (Q56187643): British scholar of Italian and German literature in Cardiff the name Jonathan seems a bibliographic phantom (it is nearly absent on Google), Joseph is clearly the good entry. --Epìdosis 19:24, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

@Dla archiv 1: GND 1095489917 wurde von DE-Mar1 angelegt. Der Eintrag in Kallías lautet:
  • Benjamin Jonathan Morse (1899-1977), Germanist
Der Datensatz kann mit GND 116930160 (Benjamin Joseph Morse) zusammengeführt werden. Gruß --Kolja21 (talk) 19:38, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
Danke für den Hinweis. Ich habe die Umleitung in der GND veranlasst und die Daten bereinigt. Dla archiv 1 (talk) 10:53, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

for this rollback! I ment to add that statement in P11805, not in Q11805. I don't understand how I made such a mistake using quickpresets. Horcrux (talk) 19:44, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

@MichaelSchoenitzer: Could this be a bug? --Horcrux (talk) 19:45, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Wrong merge

I am sorry, I realized I merged 2 pages about sculptors that have similar names and periodo of activity, but one lived in the beginning of the 18th century, and the second in the second half of it. Can you restore the 2 separate pages? Q3083455 and Q100989621. You already did this for me before. Thank you. --Sailko (talk) 19:08, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

I tried myself, thank if you could check if I did it right, sorry again. --Sailko (talk) 19:15, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done Indeed, the two sculptors are easy to confuse. --Kolja21 (talk) 08:33, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Peter Wolf

Hi! I have cleaned the homonyms Peter Wolf in SBN (edits soon visible), but I still have doubts about 3 works:

Could you help me? Thanks! --Epìdosis 09:35, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Lets start with Die Dramen Johann Elias Schlegels (Diss. Zürich 1962/1964) = Peter Wolf (Q120054135), Schweizer Germanist. (The titles linked with GND 133195554 = Q112481825 are from different authors. I've created a new GND and filed a report.) --Kolja21 (talk) 16:52, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Ludwig der Bayer - Wir sind Kaiser! (DNB 1047070782) = Peter Wolf (Q101008764): German historian (1966-). --Kolja21 (talk) 18:34, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Wirkungen des Histamins auf cerebrale, motorische und viscerale Aktivitäten. Basel, Phil.-naturwiss. F., Diss. 1973 (DNB 571644015). So far no GND. Did you create an item? (I couldn't find one.) --Kolja21 (talk) 18:46, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Great! I have now created Peter Wolf (Q120200758): Swiss biologist about the last one, you can check it. I will clean on SBN accordingly. Good night, --Epìdosis 21:12, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Pauline Vaillancourt

The quasi-homonym couple Pauline Vaillancourt Rosenau (Q109792839): Canadian political scientist (1943-) and Pauline M. Vaillancourt (Q120200483): American librarian (1925-2014) seems to have caused big troubles to many libraries. GND seems to have noticed the existence of 2 distinct persons (https://d-nb.info/gnd/1089719477 presently says "Pauline Marie Vaillancourt Rosenau ist nicht identisch mit Pauline M. Vaillancourt!"), but as of now in my understanding I just see 4 (!) IDs for the first and none clearly related to the latter. The matters, fortunately, are pretty different: social science for the first, library science applied to oncology for the latter. Could you have a look? I will fix the chaos in SBN of course. Thanks! --Epìdosis 21:07, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the good hint. Luckily there is no conflation. I've filed a report and created a GND for the librarian. --Kolja21 (talk) 00:49, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Luca Beltrami

Luca Beltrami (Q67989912): Italian literary scholar (1981-) GND and others have a strange date 1978 which is surely mistaken, per 1981 in SBN and Aracne (website presently not available, but web-archived). Could you fix it? Thanks! --Epìdosis 09:28, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Thanks for the hint. --Kolja21 (talk) 13:35, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Gabriele is a male name

Hi Q53996499 is Gabriele not "Gabrielle" or "Gabriela". He is a man so please correct on GND when you have time. Thanks! Alexmar983 (talk) 21:28, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Thanks for noticing. "Gabriele" is a common first name for women in Germany (de:Gabriele Münter). --Kolja21 (talk) 21:55, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Kolja21 I know that's why I was pointing out that in Italian is always male. Thanks!--Alexmar983 (talk) 23:07, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Palestinian Meteorological Department

Hello Kolja21,

There are two items that look the same but the are not

I believe that https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q87766926#P227 is about Meteorological Service. Department of Civil Aviation (Q119721191) i couldn't confirm that looking the link. Geagea (talk) 08:38, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done You're right. Thanks for noticing. GND 1086294394 has the country code XA-GB (= Great Britain). I've moved the IDs. @Mr.Karhi: FYI. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:11, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
@Geagea: @Kolja21: Thanks.--Mr.Karhi (talk) 20:02, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Property:P5504

Moin!

Bei dem Property ist https://viaf.org/viaf/partnerpages/DE663.html eingetragen. Wenn ich auf z.B. VIAF:59265276 gucke, dann ist beim "oberen" RISM-Eintrag nach Klick auf das Symbol in der Rosette der Text DE663-pe30063347 zu lesen.

Soweit alles okay.

Es gibt aber ein zweites RISM-Symbol, gegenüber und unten in der Rosette. Wenn ich dort draufklicke, dann lese ich DE633-pe30063347 DE633 währen oben steht DE663 und tatsächlich gibts auch https://viaf.org/viaf/partnerpages/DE633.html was sich aber (auf den ersten Blick) nicht unterscheidet. Hast du da irgendeine Idee dazu? --Wurgl (talk) 06:30, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, ich verstehe nur Bahnhof. Mit "Anton Moritz" ist laut dem angegebenen Titel Moritz Anton Grandjean = M. A. Grandjean (Q94911420) gemeint. Ich habe die Dublette dort eingetragen, bekomme aber die Meldung, dass der Wert für die RISM-Kennung (pe30063347‏) nicht dem regulären Ausdruck entspricht. DE633 ist das Bibliothekssigel von RISM. DE663 steht für "Hochschul- und Landesbibliothek Fulda, Standort Heinrich-von-Bibra-Platz, AV-Medien". Vermutlich arbeiten sie zusammen, aber das scheint nicht so recht zu klappen. Ich habe leider keine Erfahrung mit RISM. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:21, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Halt! Der VIAF-Cluster ist nur ein Beispiel. Mir geht es um DE663 vs. DE633 … offenbar hab ich selbst die Zahlen verdreht, ist ja nur die vorletzte Ziffer unterschiedlich. Ist das der selbe Eintrag oder sind das ein bissl andere? --Wurgl (talk) 18:45, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Für VIAF ist das eine Soße, aber die Bibliothekssigel sind eindeutig, daher meine Vermutung, dass die Hochschul- und Landesbibliothek Fulda mit der Zentralredaktion von RISM in Frankfurt zusammenarbeitet. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:50, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Okay. Dann eventuell in der Beschreibung des Property dieses DE633 ergänzen? --Wurgl (talk) 18:52, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Ich habe DE663 durch DE633 ersetzt. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:56, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Kümmerly & Frey

Hello Kolja21,

There seems to be confusion Kümmerly & Frey (Q21036379). The correct VIAF id should be (in my opinion) 147614233 (Kümmerly+Frey). Geagea (talk) 14:30, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done I totally agree. --Kolja21 (talk) 15:18, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Andrea Purgatori

Hi, I was updating Q3615966. If you are opening the GND to insert the date of death, please take a look at the layout, there is something "sloppy" there: in the Beruf(e) line there is no space between words. Alexmar983 (talk) 11:25, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I added the year of death but I can't change the layout of the DNB catalog. It's a known problem. The data has been entered correctly. If you use OGND everthing looks fine. --Kolja21 (talk) 12:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done All four occupations were marked as "charakteristisch" (= preferred rank). That's no error but kills the layout. --Kolja21 (talk) 12:17, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Nicola Scafetta

Hi, long time o see... Please notice that this person is a man, so you should remove the female -in ending of Beruf(e). Maybe you can also insert the male gender. Nicola is the male form in Italian, the female form is Nicoletta. Alexmar983 (talk) 21:35, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Thanks for the hint. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:43, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Georges Gaulis

Berthe Georges-Gaulis (Q121596862) is 1870-1950, but https://d-nb.info/gnd/1267608773 has a wrong 1865-1912 (the source, LC, doesn't have dates in fact), which is clearly a confusion with the husband Georges Gaulis (Q109853801) (I suggest to create his ID, in order to avoid future confusion). Thanks, --Epìdosis 11:38, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, you're right. This is a serious mistake. I can't edit Berthe Georges-Gaulis ("männlich") but I've created a GND for Georges Gaulis and filed a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 13:46, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Peter Higgs

https://d-nb.info/gnd/170355926 is a good authority for Peter John Higgs (Q121547910): Australian economist, author of "Adaptation and Survival in Australian Agriculture", but is wrongly clustered by VIAF under Peter Higgs (Q121547841): British archaeologist and curator at the British Museum because it seems (I also had a look through Beacon: http://beacon.findbuch.de/seealso/pnd-aks?format=sources&id=170355926) that many libraries are using it for the latter. Could you create an auth ID for the latter and report the issue? Thanks! --Epìdosis 08:23, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi Epìdosis, there is already a GND for the curator: Peter Higgs (Q121547841): British archaeologist and curator at the British Museum = GND 1101612452. @Alexmar983: Can you check your edits? You've add LCAuth n2018027486 ("golf correspondent of the Mail on Sunday"). Appropriate seems LCAuth no2016037639 = Higgs, Peter (Museum curator). Kolja21 (talk) 15:01, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
I am the one who told User:Epìdosis to double-check the conflation, so there is not a lot I can add beside who he also wrote. To me the GND in the viaf was wrong. I created both to alert about the issue. Than I stopped and told Epìdosis.--Alexmar983 (talk) 15:07, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
That's right, Peter Higgs (Q121547841): British archaeologist and curator at the British Museum already had a GND. LC seems conflated, marked as such (the description says "golf correspondent of the Mail on Sunday", but the only connected resource is a book by the museum curator; it seems a repurposed record). So the only problem seems that some bibliographic records in GND are connected to the wrong authority record. --Epìdosis 15:14, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
VIAF 76527763 is a cluster containing three persons with the name "Peter Higgs": a journalist, an economist and a curator. That's not unusual. I wrote to the Bavarian State Library (Q256507) about the incorrectly linked titles. The two LCAuth records are clearly separated. LCAuth n2018027486 is the author of Fairway to Heaven. It's a book about golf. Authority records and the way they are (mis)used are two different things. --Kolja21 (talk) 15:25, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Tancred Bănățeanu

https://d-nb.info/gnd/103240284 the death year 1985 seems a mistake, LC has no dates and the cited website says 1987, as well as PLWABN and NUKAT. Thanks! --Epìdosis 18:51, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Thanks. I've fixed the typo. --Kolja21 (talk) 20:36, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Pauline Plagnat

Pauline Plagnat-Cantoreggi (Q98233912): French economist and politician (1974–) = https://d-nb.info/gnd/1207876550 has 1975 as birth date with no source, but her CV and other sources have 1974 (22 July). Could you check? Thanks, --Epìdosis 11:46, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Thanks. I've added the info from the CV. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:15, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Otto Kiefer

Hi! I see two homonym classicists, Otto Kiefer (Q59531240): German pastor and teacher (1846-1912) = https://d-nb.info/gnd/116156465 and Otto Kiefer (Q95877266): German classical philologist (1876-1955) = https://d-nb.info/gnd/1062686500, and it's not fully clear to me who wrote what. In fact, all national libraries (except GND) have just one ID, either with no infos or with dates 1846-1912. I see at least two sets of works: the works about sexual life in antiquity, probably by the elder; the translations of ancient Greek works, probably by the Younger (but GND attributes many to the Elder). Of course I would be especially interested in attributing correctly the works in SBN. Thanks in advance! --Epìdosis 10:23, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

At the first look I would suggest to merge the two GNDs. I can't open Google Books and have to check the 2nd Otto Kiefer later. I'm travelling right now so it will take a while. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:43, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
OK, I copy here Google Books: <Otto Kiefer (1876-1955), Altphilologe und promovierter Jurist, 1918 bis 1935 Lehrer für Griechisch und Latein an der Odenwaldschule. Entlassung aus dem Justizdienst wegen Verbreitung unzüchtiger Schriften. Verschiedene Tätigkeiten als Schrifsteller, Übersetzer und Hauslehrer. 1903 Gründungsmitglied der homosexuellen "Gemeinschaft der Eigenen".> --Epìdosis 07:45, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Sounds like the author of Sexual life in ancient Rome = Kulturgeschichte Roms unter besonderer Berücksichtigung der römischen Sitten (1933). I'm afraid the libraries mixed the two persons. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:37, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Otto Kiefer (2nd) is mentioned in the article Eros und Herrschaft (2019): "Einer der prägenden Autoren war der homosexuelle Jurist und Altphilologe Otto Kiefer; sein Artikel 'Der Eros und die Landerziehungsheime' ist 1924 unter einem Pseudonym in der Zeitschrift Der Eigene. Ein Blatt für männliche Kultur veröffentlicht worden. Kiefer wurde 1918 im Alter von 42 Jahren Lehrer für Griechisch, Latein und Geschichte an der Odenwaldschule und war dort bis 1935 tätig." --Kolja21 (talk) 18:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
They seem to be father and son because according to this entry the father of the younger was “Otto Kiefer, Professor in Karlsruhe/[Baden].” The elder died in Karlsruhe. According to unsourced statements on Ancestry, the younger was born in Oberbaldingen and died 18. December 1953 in Mössingen. --Emu (talk) 20:23, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the very useful infos collected. I have integrated the relationship father-son in the items. About the works, I propose the following hypothesis: given that the younger one is known both as translator and as author of Der Eros und die Landerziehungsheime, and that the dates of the works in SBN are all in the 20th century, is it possible that all the works in SBN are by the younger? In other words, is there some work that is surely to be attrituted to the elder? Thanks! --Epìdosis 09:17, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Good question, let’s ping Marcus Cyron, our resident expert on classical philology. He might have some insights. --Emu (talk) 11:52, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
@Jonathan Groß: is the main specialist in the biogaphies of german language classical philologists and the history of classical philology in DACH area. Marcus Cyron (talk) 12:16, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
After skimming through the titles listed by the SBN, I can say that it is possible that all the works are to be attributed to Otto Kiefer the younger. The earliest works are all translations, some of which are based on older translations, so it is feasible that a young Otto Kiefer could have published so much in such a short time. Mind you, this is only my opinion. A final verdict must take a look at the books themselves which I cannot do at the moment. Jonathan Groß (talk) 16:04, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

I've filed a report: de:Wikipedia:GND/Fehlermeldung/August 2023. After the feedback from the library we can check again. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:58, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Jean Delepierre

Jean Delepierre (Q110178017) = https://d-nb.info/gnd/1078731950 having strange dates (if BN-Opale is somehow related to BNF, it seems that now BNF has changed much its opinion). --Epìdosis 19:34, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

BnF is offline. I will check later. --Kolja21 (talk) 17:11, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done Indeed strange. I've found no source for "Lebensdaten: 1884-1964". There may have been an error in the old catalog that was not documented. I took the data from BnF that replaced BN-Opale. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:41, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Bruno Segre

Today I heard in a press review that some Italian newspaper mistakenly announced the death of Bruno Segre (Q3645926): Italian lawyer, journalist and politician (1918-2024) whilst in fact it was the younger homonym Bruno Segre (Q95227239): Italian historian and philosopher (1930-2023) who died (see e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20230825090834/https://metronews.it/2023/08/22/morto-a-104-anni-bruno-segre-avvocato-giornalista-ed-ex-partigiano/ as an example of the wrong death announce and https://www.quotidianopiemontese.it/2023/08/22/morto-bruno-segre-lex-partigiano-aveva-104-anni/ about the mistake). Afterwards, looking at the GND of the second one, https://d-nb.info/gnd/1053951019, I'm a bit perplexed by "Widerstandskämpfer" (partigiano), because 1) he was only 15 in 1945 when WWII ended 2) LC (the only cited source) doesn't report this info 3) the Italian articles announcing correctly his death don't mention his being a partigiano - I checked all the available ones. Could you have a look? Thanks! --Epìdosis 09:10, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Probably a mix up. --Kolja21 (talk) 17:17, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done Obvious confusion since he was writing about the Shoah. I've deleted "Widerstandskämpfer" and created a second GND for the 1918 born Bruno Segre. Thanks for the hint. --Kolja21 (talk) 03:32, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Two of Johann Ernst von Schaffgotschs

Thanks for revisions of merges (they are needed!), but still I have some doubts about your conclusions (Causa Johann Ernst Graf von Schaffgotsch (Q94802807) and Johann Ernst Anton Graf von Schaffgotsch (Q26254995): You stated "active 1674; his namesake was born eleven years later", which is suspicious, but in this era can occure this measure of uncertainty. Also, we need to notice some important conditions: Both Johann Ernsts have unique ID Deutsche Biographie, but both of them links to the same Familienartikel in NDB (S. 536 in Familienartikel (Schaffgotsch)[4] or [5])

→Johann Ernst Anton (1685–1747, s. Biogr. Lex. Böhmen) als Oberstburggraf von Prag.

And article in deutsch Wikipedia (and Czech Wikipedia as well) about Burggraf (with expected date of birth 1685) stated, that his date of birth is 1675 (=one year difference!). Date of birth 1674 is stated only in CERL and it stated only source, "NDB/ADB-online" (and we are at the begining). Colleagues from CERL have nothing new. It appears (and apperad in 2022) to me as the same person. marv1N (talk) 20:13, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi marv1N, thanks for the review. I was undecided at first but like you've said both persons are mentioned in the same article (NDB 22): "Aus der Hauptlinie erlangte Johann Ernst 1674 den böhm. Freiherren- und 1681 den böhm. Grafenstand." That is precise information and a clear distinction. Even if Johann Ernst Anton was born as early as 1675, it still remains after Johann Ernst has been ennobled. In 1675 Johann Ernst was already an adult. He is according to NDB one generation older. --Kolja21 (talk) 20:55, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Ah, now I see, you are rigt! He should be that one mentioned in Czech Wikipedie "Schaffgotschové" (House of Schaffgotsch (Q337831)) ("Zakladatelem pozemkového vlastnictví v Českém království byl Jan Arnošt (1623–1695), který již v roce 1649 koupil..."). According to Wikipedia article, the younger one is cousin of the older (=brother of Wilhelm, Freiherr von Schaffgotsch (Q108927159)?), but at this moment I have no other source. marv1N (talk) 06:15, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Thomas Litt

Hi! https://relbib.de/Search/Results?lookfor=1132667534&Type=GND is a misuse of the GND belonging to Thomas Litt (Q112543401); the work is by Thomas Litt (Q122250941). Thanks! --Epìdosis 18:12, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Good to know. I've created GND 1301843601 for the theologian. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:30, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Michael Schiller

Hallo Kolja,

Michael Schiller (Q122382249) (PVC-Additive) wurde laut Wikipedia 1959 geboren. Michael Schiller (Q112423484) (aus GND) mit Geburtsdatum 1956 mischt meiner Vermutung nach ihn (Fraunhofer-Institut für Fabrikbetrieb und -automatisierung IFF) dazu.

Fehlermeldung oder selber lösen?-- U. M. Owen (talk) 08:56, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Danke für den Tipp. Die beiden Datenobjekte habe ich zusammengeführt. Sie wurden ursprünglich für den Chemiker angelegt ("laut Wikipedia 1959 geboren"; vermutlich korrekt, aber unbelegt). GND und NUKAT gehören zu dem von dir erwähnten Diplom-Ingenieur Michael Schiller (Q122415957), von dem wiederum NKČR-AUT das Geburtsjahr 1956 übernommen hat. Den von der DNB falsch verknüpften Titel habe ich gemeldet. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:27, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Danke fürs Lösen.--U. M. Owen (talk) 18:30, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Daniel Kerameus

During my PhD studies I have found this teacher, Daniēl Kerameus (Q16326951); his GND (https://d-nb.info/gnd/102376743) places him in 20th-21st century, but he died in 1801. Could you fix? Thanks as always, --Epìdosis 09:14, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I've filed a report. ("20./21. Jh." was entered in the wrong or an unusual field and I cannot correct the error.) --Kolja21 (talk) 12:10, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Luigi Augusto Cervetto

Hi! https://d-nb.info/gnd/1055240217 has 1855 with no source, but the best source https://www.aib.it/aib/editoria/dbbi20/cervetto.htm has 1854. Thanks! --Epìdosis 08:09, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Luigi Augusto Cervetto (Q90043463): Italian librarian and local historian (1854-1923). Thanks for the hint. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:45, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Giuseppe Spada

Hi! Giuseppe Spada (Q76700838) is basically the only author "Giuseppe Spada" somehow known, so I have added https://d-nb.info/gnd/1157636187, but it is empty and I cannot find anything connected to it through Beacon. Could you check that it represents this historian, and enrich it if possible to make it clearer? Thanks! --Epìdosis 08:16, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done The authority file matches. GND 1157636187 (DE-7) was created for Storia della rivoluzione di Roma ... There is also a Giuseppe Nicola Spada (GND 1190119242) relevant to Wikidata: Giuseppe Nicola Spada (Q122709182). --Kolja21 (talk) 22:15, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Giuseppe Carlotti

This https://d-nb.info/gnd/1284962199 seems to be a third person, with respect to the two Giuseppe Carlotti we presently have in Wikidata; but I find nothing through Beacon, so I remain unsure. Could you have a look? Thanks as always, --Epìdosis 10:41, 24 September 2023 (UTC) P.S. this Sunday in some hours of work I managed to empty Property talk:P227/human/wanted/import/from VIAF :) --Epìdosis 16:22, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Impressive. Great work! I've added two Giuseppe Carlottis:
--Kolja21 (talk) 17:11, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Claudia Crocco

Claudia Crocco (Q112044381): Italian philologist (1987-) and Claudia Crocco (Q55232351): Italian linguist (1975-) are easy to confuse; https://d-nb.info/gnd/1076496512 is about the philologist, but the publication Towards a New Standard is linguistic and in fact is by the linguist (see her ResearchGate). I will fix SBN soon. --Epìdosis 20:00, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Good to know. I've created a GND for the linguist and filed a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:31, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Martin Jan Mulder

hello Kolja21,

Please see Helmert Richard Mulder (Q21545356): Dutch artist and Martin Jan Mulder (Q77084742): university teacher at Leiden University. And GND 1069229628 and GND 1053261373 (VIAF 32018361). I think kind of mixed up. Can you help. Geagea (talk) 18:51, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello Geagea, GND and NTA were correct. All other identifiers are belonging to "Martin Jan" instead of "Helmert". (VIAF was misleaded by Wikidata started with an edit by Reinheitsgebot, 5 September 2022.) --Kolja21 (talk) 20:01, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Jüngste Sammler aus "Schoenberg Database of Manuscripts"

Hallo Kolja,

könntest du dir vielleicht die Items von Rosemccandless (talk • contribs • logs) anschauen? Sind sie besser allesamt zu löschen?

V.g., U. M. Owen (talk) 18:57, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Einträge mit der Quellenangabe Schoenberg Database of Manuscripts name ID (P9756) sind mir schon öfters als problematisch aufgefallen. Im Fall von "William Lymnor of Sharrington" (Q122873544) findet sich beispielsweise der Hinweis: "Added by Rose A. McCandless on 2023-09-28". Der Warnhinweises ("This Name has not yet been reviewed and may not conform to our data standards") ist eindeutig. Auf dieser Grundlage sollte kein item in Wikidata erstellt werden. Falls der betreffende User keine Quellen nachreicht, muss man die Datenobjekte in der Tat löschen. Kolja21 (talk) 20:29, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Carlo Manunza

Carlo Manunza (Q113801215) is a theologian; his GND https://d-nb.info/gnd/1028133499 has economy as his field of activity (no source cited), which seems a mistake, as none of his publications is economical (https://opac.sbn.it/risultati-ricerca-avanzata?item%3A5032%3ABID=NAPV120767). Could you maybe edit it? Thanks, --Epìdosis 19:55, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Import: "Studienfach" (GND) => "field of activity" (WD). Strange but maybe he once took a course in economics. No titles of an economist linked in German libraries. No wrong merge. I can't edit this GND field but I've removed "field of work: economy" in Wikidata. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:41, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

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Roberto Alessandri

https://d-nb.info/gnd/1079801235 says 1900-1971 with no source, but Roberto Alessandri (Q94912074) per SBN has 1900-1970. Could you check? --Epìdosis 08:29, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

I assume that ICCU is correct. The Archivio Biografico Italiano (ABI) only states the year of birth. I've changed the year of death. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:55, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Robert Bolton Jr.

Hi! Who is https://d-nb.info/gnd/1055698949? Nothing in Beacon. I was looking at the intricate conflation in many VIAF members of Robert Harvey Bolton, Jr. (Q98923952): American historian of philosophy (1940-) vs Robert H. Bolton (Q98754131): American business consultant and pastor (1929-2019) vs Robert Anthony Noble Bolton (Q116856138): British philosopher & religious writer (1941-). Thanks, --Epìdosis 11:03, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

GND 1055698949 (DE-7) is the author of History of the County of Westchester (1848) = Robert Bolton (Q99334159): New York local historian (1814-1877). I've added the missing information and deleted the name suffix. (No source for "Jr." ) --Kolja21 (talk) 14:07, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
BTW: Q98923952 was created in 2020‎ for Robert Anthony Noble Bolton (b. 1941) and was reused for the philosopher Robert Bolton (b. 1940). Imho this item should be deleted. --Kolja21 (talk) 15:12, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Tradespeople

Hallo Kolja,

w:tradesman heißt mysteriöserweise Handwerker im Englischen.-- U. M. Owen (talk) 17:31, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Du meinst die Übersetzung von User:Conny "tradesman" = "Handelsmann". Der gleiche Begriff findet sich unter "Kaufmann" (Q215536). "tradesperson" könnte man auch mit "Gewerbetreibender" übersetzen, aber vermutlich ist "Handwerker" gemeint, vgl. master craftsman = Handwerksmeister (Q1284709). --Kolja21 (talk) 18:08, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
PS: Soll ich die Zusammenführung mit "Handelsmann" rückgängig machen? "Kaufmann" (Q215536) ist dann vermutlich das bessere Ziel. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:14, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
"Trade" heißt in einem bestimmten Kontext "Gewerbe". Bevor ich zuviel herumlaber: merchant (Q10517083) gehörte mMn nach merchant (Q215536) weitergeleitet.--U. M. Owen (talk) 18:14, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

David Wheatley

I have created David Wheatley (Q123015002): British archaeologist (1965-) moving the GND away from David E. Wheatley (Q84537301): chemist; I think the ORCID matched to the GND, which caused the conflation, is wrong. Could ypu check? Thanks, --Epìdosis 20:04, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Thanks for the hint. Automatic data synchronization failed. Reason: Same name, same institution. Error fixed. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:11, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
BTW: The ORDIC ID is not displayed in the old OPAC (portal.dnb.de). The new catalog of the DNB is still in beta phase but you can find people using the ORCID ID. Example: https://portal.dnb.de/opac/simpleSearch?query=0000-0002-5075-5554. And there is the useful alternative OGND. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:20, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Name "Friedrich / Fritz Mayer"

Hallo Kolja,

ich bin gerade dabei alle Friedrich Mayers zu beschreiben. Vielleicht könntest du sie normdatentechnisch durcharbeiten?

Viele Grüße, -- U. M. Owen (talk) 16:55, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Hallo U. M. Owen, da hast du dir viel vorgenommen. Es gibt alleine 69 GNDs für "Mayer, Friedrich …" Um Einzelfälle kümmere ich mich gerne, aber alle durchgehen kann ich nicht. Viele Grüße --Kolja21 (talk) 22:21, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Massimo Grilli

https://d-nb.info/gnd/112516327 is about Massimo Grilli (Q123173341): Italian Bible scholar (1948-), but https://viaf.org/viaf/20334330/ shows that GND attributes him Blockade of stress-induced increase of glutamate release, which is clearly by Massimo Grilli (Q41809037): Italian pharmacologist. Could you check? Thanks! --Epìdosis 13:46, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Wrong ORCID import. Thanks for the tip. I've created a GND for the pharmacologist and filed a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:42, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

András Kovács

I added https://d-nb.info/gnd/12391079X to András Kovács (Q1119965), which seems fine, but the publication about NATO mentioned in the ID seems by András Kovács (Q96634634). Anyway, András Kovács is unfortunately very common in Hungarian ... could you check? Thanks, --Epìdosis 19:37, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the hint. Of cause you're right. I've filed a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:29, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

GND angelegt

und nun? Ich habe bei Nello Carrera eine GND angelegt und hinzugefügt. Was mache ich nun mit der Fundstelle zum K10plus-Katalog? Einfach löschen traue ich mich nicht, da Epìdosis sich so viel Arbeit gemacht hat. Danke für Deine Geduld, die ich in der nächsten Zeit bestimmt noch öfter in Anspruch nehmen muss... Silke (talk) 19:09, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Hallo Silke, die gleiche Frage habe ich mir auch schon gestellt. Strenggenommen müsste man den Link zum K10plus-Katalog löschen (da es keine Quelle für die GND ist), aber wenn du ihn stehen lässt, tut das niemand weh. Ich habe das bislang nicht einheitlich gehandhabt, aber die Idee mit dem zweiten Abrufdatum gefällt mir gut. So werde ich es in Zukunft auch machen. --Kolja21 (talk) 20:05, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
PS: Kennst du die Liste der Abkürzungen für Quellenangaben? Bislang umfasst sie rund 130 Standardwerke, und erspart einem die Suche in dem umfangreichen Verzeichnis. --Kolja21 (talk) 20:15, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Augusto Alfani

I have some doubts about two GNDs:

And finally Augusto Alfani (Q123286546): Italian engineer (1907-) needs a GND. Thanks as always! --Epìdosis 20:26, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

I've deleted "Astronom" (Kalliope) and filed a report for the duplicate (SUB Göttingen). GND 1055275541 (DE-7) = Della vita e degli scritti di Orazio Ricasoli Rucellai: studio critico del Augusto Alfani (1872). Now I will take a look at the engineer. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:06, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Alcibiade Lucarini

Alcibiade Lucarini (Q118611877) clearly corresponds to https://d-nb.info/gnd/12450843X, but the dates 1645-1724 (also present in BAV) seem clearly wrong, because all the connected publications were printed before 1645. The correct dates seem the generic ones provided by SBN. --Epìdosis 17:06, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi Epìdosis, this item was created for SBN RMRV177804: Lucarini, Alcibiade <[1645-1724]> = Vatican Library VcBA ID = GND 12450843X (DE-255). Is the giurista italiano the same person? And who is the author of Adombrato colle sue Eroiche Virtù nel rinovellamento del suo Natale, il giorno dodicesimo di maggio M.DCXIX ; dall'offitioso Intronato (1619)? The title does not belong to the field of law, so I'm a bit confused. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:40, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
SBN RMRV177804 has been merged into NAPV083490, which states that he was not only professor of law, but also "membro delle accademie degli Accolti di Salerno e degli Intronati di Siena" and that he wrote under the pseudonyms "Accademico Intronato", "Offitioso Accademico Intronato", "Accademico Intronato Offitioso", "Bartolomeo Manchioni", so he is surely the author of the work you mention. The other Alcibiade Lucarini (1645-1724) effectively exists (he is mentioned in https://books.google.it/books?id=H4M8AAAAIAAJ as "lettore dello Studio e riseduto del Monte del Popolo"), but didn't publish anything; probably the identification, which was clearly wrong from the beginning (he could not publish before his birth), spread from BAV or from SBN to GND. --Epìdosis 05:20, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your research! I've filed a report. Imho it would be helpful creating an item for his 1645 born namesake. --Kolja21 (talk)
PS: The DNB would keep GND 12450843X for the 1645 born person and create a new GND for Alcibiade Lucarini (Q118611877): Italian jurist (16th-17th century). I'm curious to see what solution the BSB librarian chooses. --Kolja21 (talk) 13:53, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done I created Alcibiade Lucarini (Q123644647): Italian teacher (1645-1724). --Epìdosis 15:16, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Giovanni Rizza

https://d-nb.info/gnd/133601323 is about Giovanni Rizza (Q30230329): Italian archaeologist (1923-2011), who was born in 1923 and not in 1941 (see BNF, SBN etc.); 1941 maybe was added due to a confusion with Giovanni Rizza (Q123498168): Italian jurist (1941-). Thanks, --Epìdosis 22:31, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done I understand, only source LCAuth, but no birth year there. Thanks for the note! --Kolja21 (talk) 23:24, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Antonio Piazza

I have just found a relevant mistake regarding Antonio Piazza. Two librettists exist unfortunately under this name:

  1. Antonio Piazza (Q2857398): Italian novelist, playwright, and journalist (1742-1825) = https://d-nb.info/gnd/118866575
  2. Antonio Piazza (Q24296444): Italian journalist, librettist and poet (1795-1872) = ???

GND 1021283991 (https://swb.bsz-bw.de/DB=2.104/PPNSET?PPN=1021283991&INDEXSET=21) is theoretically individualisiert, but assembles works by: 1742-1825 (Cassiere, Romilo, Persiana, La moglie senza merito, L'attrice); 1772-1844 = Antonio Piazza (Q123502974): Italian lawyer and bibliophile (1772-1844) = https://d-nb.info/gnd/1100717927 (Breve ragguaglio delle collezioni sacre, Memorie inedite dell'abate Giuseppe Gennari); both these authors have already their GND. Moreover, in the authority record for the work Oberto, conte di San Bonifacio (Q636873) (https://swb.bsz-bw.de/DB=2.104/PPNSET?PPN=701769785&INDEXSET=21) the attribution to 1742-1825 is wrong, as stated in the Dizionario Biografico degli Italiani the correct one is to 1795-1872, which needs an authority record. For any doubt, of course ask me; I have cleaned many things in SBN today but they will be visible probably in a week from now as usual. Thanks as always, --Epìdosis 12:26, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

I've no access to WBIS right now but thanks for the notice. I will look into it. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:40, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
I've added data and created a new GND:
* K10plus 1021283991 = GND 1157464300 (DE-7; duplicate) = author of La moglie senza merito ovvero memorie d'una dama Italiana (1766) = Antonio Piazza (Q2857398): Italian novelist, playwright, and journalist (1742-1825).
* GND 1311803521 (new) = Antonio Piazza (Q24296444): Italian journalist, librettist and poet (1795-1872). --Kolja21 (talk) 23:34, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
The incorrectly linked titles have been reported. --Kolja21 (talk) 00:12, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Ernst Weber

Hi! Premise, I know that this name is a nightmare. So, SBN presently attributes to Ernst Weber (Q11291133): German educationist (1873-1948) a great number of 175 books published by J. Beltz in Langensalza in the 1920s (see https://opac.sbn.it/risultati-ricerca-avanzata?item%3A5032%3ABID=UBOV361118); a lot of these publications have been written by E. Weber and A. Schmidt (https://opac.sbn.it/risultati-autori/-/opac-autori/detail/UBOV444185) about which apparently we don't know much. Could you confirm me that E. Weber who published for J. Beltz is 1873-1948 and could you maybe find more infos about his colleague A. Schmidt? Thanks! --Epìdosis 10:22, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Indeed a challenge: "Weber, Ernst" = 52 hints (GND). I will look into it, but it will take a while since I'm in France right now and have only a laptop. --Kolja21 (talk) 10:49, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
@Epìdosis: Indeed this E. Weber published for J. Beltz. His colleague (A. Schmidt) was Alfred Max Schmidt (Q108813062): German teacher (1875-1925). --Kolja21 (talk) 23:27, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Guilelmus Werner

Hi! I have just created Wilhelm Werner (Q123558639) and I added to it GND 1158470991, but I'm unsure of my choice: in https://viaf.org/processed/DNB%7C1158470991 I see in the field 672 the titles of 3 publications and he (Q123558639) is the author only of the thesis De Libanii studiis Herodoteis; the thesis De Anterastis dialogo Pseudoplatonico was written by a Wilhelm Werner born on 28/05/1883 in Reichelsheim (Q940691) (see biography in the thesis); the author of Beiträge zur Theorie der Bewegung eines materiellen Punktes auf Rotationsflächen mit spezieller Anwendung auf das Rotationsparaboloid, about which I didn't make researches, is surely different from the other ones. Could you check? Thanks, --Epìdosis 22:55, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

The third one is Gymnasiallehrer Dr. Werner. Created by DE-18 = Hamburg State and University Library Carl von Ossietzky (Q2324644). I would love to delete non-individualised GNDs like this. I'll see what I can do. --Kolja21 (talk) 01:10, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
I've created items for the two authors who were born earlier:
--Kolja21 (talk) 16:20, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
Update: Conflation solved. GND 1158470991 now (weakly) individualized. --Kolja21 (talk) 16:08, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Very good! Could you also create the ID for the philologist (1887-), which was my main focus of interest since he studied Libanius (Q263892) like me now? Thanks! --Epìdosis 16:30, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Of cause. The case is still open. --Kolja21 (talk) 17:14, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
@Epìdosis: For the philologist (1887-) see "Wilhe[l]m Werner" (GND 1311892478). I've reported the typo. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:53, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Enzo Gatti

Hi! Of these 7 books (https://portal.dnb.de/opac/simpleSearch?reset=true&cqlMode=true&query=betRef%3D1020721731&selectedCategory=any) only "Visioni di Palermo" is correctly attributed to https://d-nb.info/gnd/1020721731, the others are by https://d-nb.info/gnd/1036241181 = Enzo Gatti (Q113792285): Italian priest and theologian (1942-). Thanks! --Epìdosis 11:09, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@Epìdosis: Imho there is a third person. The author of Gli Iliri (1981) and Lager: storia inedita dei campi di sterminio d'Europa (1983). See BnF 12678929 (without bio) = LCAuth n50016010: Enzo Gatti (atty. & archeol. b. 9/21/08). --Kolja21 (talk) 17:46, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
I confirm, the two books above are by a third person, Enzo Gatti (Q123651965): Italian lawyer and etruscologist (1908-1995), described in https://www.versiliahistorica.org/evento-it.php?id=58 as "Uno studioso di Modena appassionato di paleoscrittura, l’ avvocato Enzo Gatti". --Epìdosis 17:56, 3 December 2023 (UTC) I found good data, including the dates, crossing other sources; I will fix it in SBN tomorrow. --Epìdosis 18:00, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Next question (Visioni di Palermo, 1956): Is Enzo Gatti (Q123571107) a translator (GND) or a photographer (IdRef)? --Kolja21 (talk) 21:04, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Enzo Gatti, translator: Vino dei draghi e pane degli angeli by Gabriel Bunge (1999). --Kolja21 (talk) 21:09, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
The priest seems to have translated works like Leggere la Bibbia con un Ebreo (1985). --Kolja21 (talk) 22:38, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Leggere la Bibbia con un Ebreo and Vino dei draghi e pane degli angeli are both by Enzo Gatti (Q113792285): Italian priest and theologian (1942-) in my opinion since the themes and the dates are perfectly compatible. For Visioni di Palermo, https://evergreen.lib.in.us/eg/opac/record/19738235 is a good source: it seems that it contains text in many languages, but we are only sure that Enzo Gatti (Q123571107): Italian photographer is responsible for the photographs, his role as translator seems an unsourced deduction which I would cautiously avoid. --Epìdosis 23:00, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. I've corrected the occupation (GND 1020721731). --Kolja21 (talk) 23:18, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Now all titles reported. --Kolja21 (talk) 05:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Francesco D'Amato

Could you check https://d-nb.info/gnd/138736510? It seems to be Francesco D'Amato (Q123643635): Italian sociologist (1972-) from the connected ORCID. Thanks, --Epìdosis 14:03, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Seems to be a mix (B3Kat with 13 titles):
  • Embriologia di Ulmus campestris L. (1940)
  • Nuclear cytology in relation to development (1977)
  • Musica e industria (2009) etc.
No idea where to start. --Kolja21 (talk) 01:59, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
✓ Done I've added the biographical details according to the two titles mentioned in the GND. --Kolja21 (talk) 02:15, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
I have checked the 13 titles of B3Kat: Musica e industria and Sound tracks and Miti in sette note and Investors and patrons, gatekeepers and social capital are by Francesco D'Amato (Q123643635): Italian sociologist (1972-); L'ombra del generale and Umberto Bossi and Il colle più alto are by Francesco Damato (Q123643709): Italian political journalist (1938-); all the others are by Francesco D'Amato (Q109876734): Italian geneticist (1916-1998) (and also Nuclear cytology in relation to development in HBZ). --Epìdosis 08:53, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. All four persons, including Francesco D'Amato (Q58170433): Italian physicist (1960-), are now individualized and have their own GND. --Kolja21 (talk) 13:16, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Francesco D'Arcais

Francesco D'Arcais (Q95907029): Italian journalist (1917-2011) is based on https://d-nb.info/gnd/117763462, which seems to have some wrong bibliographic records connected in B3Kat (e.g. Del moto sopra un ellissoide is surely by Francesco Flores D'Arcais (Q3749993): Italian mathematician (1849-1927)). BTW, Francesco Flores D'Arcais (Q3749993): Italian mathematician (1849-1927) has two IDs. Thanks, --Epìdosis 15:11, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Data supplemented (GND 117763462) and duplicate reported. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:54, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi there!

Good morning. Hope you're doing fine. I saw you reverted my edit that it was an invalid ID. You know what's best here that's why I am messaging you. It was linking to https://d-nb.info/gnd/189070307 and the name on the ID is exactly Blackmun's which leaves me confused. Please, help me sir, how is it invalid? Do that I won't make mistakes going forward. I am anticipating your kind response. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 04:48, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

I also forgot to add that I saw the ID at VIAF. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 04:52, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
Good morning Vanderwaalforces, it's easy: If you see NAME (instead of PERSON) and no biographical information the GND is a former placeholder. "Status: Datensatz ist nicht mehr Bestandteil der Gemeinsamen Normdatei (GND)" means the ID have been deleted from the index of the database. Barbara Blackmun (Q123701863) = VIAF:63043912: "DNB 189070307 delete 2020-12-06". The placeholders where use till July 2020 and were unfortunately imported by VIAF and Wikidata, now marked by a bot as undifferentiated identifier value (Q68648103), see Help:P227. BTW: VIAF creates clusters. They combine authority records but you never can be sure if all IDs are about the same person. --Kolja21 (talk) 05:55, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
@Kolja21 Wow, thank God I came back here to check for your response because I received no notification (just found out I didn't subscribe to my own thread??). Anyways, thank you so much for this explanation as it makes sense and makes everything clearer for me now. Regards. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:31, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

GND

Hi Kolja21. Thank for your edit. :-) I am pretty sure I made that mistake at least a couple of other times and have to find those again, I hate when it happens :-) The fact is that, when cataloging elements from the German library, Wikidata generally suggests the other item first, and this caused me to click on it without noticing various times (another good/bad thing about the german library site is that the link still "works" regardless). Typically, I see the warning afterward, but sometimes it slips my attention. So, thanks. See you next time :-) Oh, by the way, would you link me to a category that lists compilation errors for fields (globally) so I can help out myself? teatroge (dm) 21:25, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi Teatroge, thanks for the nice feedback. I've found the errors through Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P1292#Types statistics. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:58, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Iris Schnebel

Hallo Kolja, kannst du mir bitte bei Iris Schnebel-Kaschnitz (Q94778057) = GND 172361281 und Iris Schnebel-Kaschnitz (Q95660782) = GND 116818999 helfen? Ich glaube, dass es sich um dieselbe Person handelt, aber aufgrund verschiedener anderer IDs, die Duplikate sein könnten, habe ich einige Zweifel. Danke! --Jahl de Vautban (talk) 09:13, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

✓ Done Danke für den Hinweis. Eindeutig eine Dublette:
  • Iris von Kaschnitz - 1959
  • Iris Schnebel - 1973
  • Iris Schnebel-Kaschnitz - 2000
Die Übersetzerin stammt aus einer berühmten Familie. --Kolja21 (talk) 20:42, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Antonio Gasbarrini

Hi! I'm unsure about which of the two physicians Antonio Gasbarrini is represented by the GND contained in https://viaf.org/viaf/244890600/. Maybe both at the same time, despite the chronological difference. Could you check? Thanks! --Epìdosis 15:33, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi Epìdosis, GND 137978863 = internista + created for Methodology and indications of H2-breath testing in gastrointestinal diseases (2009). It must be Antonio Gasbarrini (Q87637469): Italian gastroenterologist (1963-). I will add the missing information. --Kolja21 (talk) 17:54, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
All five Gasbarrinis in Wikidata seems to be from one family:
The year of birth of the art critic is still missing. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:31, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Hans Hoffmann

Per [6] "1938 Inaugural-Dissertation zur Erlangung der Doktorwürde an der Universität Freiburg i. Br.", das ist [7]. Siehe auch de:Wikipedia:GND/Fehlermeldung/Dezember 2023. Gruß Rosenzweig (talk) 21:09, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Danke! Das hätte mir auffallen müssen. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:12, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Peter Fischer

http://id.sbn.it/bid/RAVV059178 mentions the catalogue of the DNB (generically, as usual in SBN) as source, but I'm unsure if it is correct, and I haven't found a Wikidata item corresponding exactly to this description; the connected bibliographic records ("Documenti collegati") are 4, specifically 3 Mosaik and 1 Alfred Wolfenstein. Could you check? Thanks, --Epìdosis 11:10, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

"Fischer, Peter" with 158 entries in GND. 5x born 1938. I wouldn't trust the connected bibliographic records but SBN RAVV059178 (GND 130640972) can be clearly identified as Peter Fischer (Q123941334): German writer, historian and translator (1938-2022). He made his PhD in Munich 1968 (Alfred Wolfenstein). I'll try to find out more about his namesakes. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:23, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
The Mosaik title = Peter Fischer (Q123943143): German journalist and expert of mosaics (1922-2000). I've filed a report to correct the links in the DNB catalog. --Kolja21 (talk) 00:48, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
@Kolja21: I created https://opac.sbn.it/risultati-autori/-/opac-autori/detail/SBNV107589 for Peter Fischer (Q123943143): German journalist and expert of mosaics (1922-2000) and moved the 3 records about mosaics under it; the edits will be visible in OPAC SBN probably at the start of 2024 (due to Christmas pause) but already done in Indice SBN (the database behind OPAC SBN). Thanks as always! --Epìdosis 16:30, 21 December 2023 (UTC) BTW I'm continuing to add potential GND creations through Property talk:P227/human/wanted/no value/DNB edition, mainly as part of Wikidata:Gruppo Wikidata per Musei, Archivi e Biblioteche/Allievi SNS; I would like to thank you very much also for the work you are doing on them and on finishing old reports at Wikidata:Gruppo Wikidata per Musei, Archivi e Biblioteche/IRIS/GND, it's very very useful!
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