Property talk:P495

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country of origin
country of origin of this item (creative work, food, phrase, product, etc.)
Representscountry of origin (Q3373417)
Data typeItem
Domainproduct (Q2424752), group of humans (Q16334295), food (Q2095), phrase (Q187931), cuisine (Q1778821), subculture (Q264965), breed (Q38829), ethnic minority group (Q2531956), mythical creature (Q2239243), religious movement (Q1826286), dialect (Q33384), music tradition (Q60733114), genre (Q483394), ethnolinguistic group (Q4533081), cultural movement (Q2198855), teaching method (Q1813494), teaching methodology (Q350453), game (Q11410), sport (Q349), goods (Q28877), type of food or dish (Q19861951), legendary figure (Q13002315), writing system (Q8192), language (Q4113741), intangible cultural heritage (Q59544), tradition (Q82821), hairstyle (Q327496), tangible good (Q1485500), YouTube channel (Q17558136), ship type (Q2235308), song form (Q1824109), physical object (Q223557), fictional entity (Q14897293), neologism (Q130989), dance move (Q384748), term (Q1969448), custom (Q251777), mythical object (Q20203727), group of works (Q17489659), type of sport (Q31629), legislation (Q49371), treaty (Q131569), agreement (Q321839), proclamation (Q1572600), work (Q386724), dog type (Q38672), character sequence (Q117009251), slang term (Q42298422), ideology (Q7257), character (Q3241972), musical form (Q862597), music genre (Q188451), expedition (Q2401485), artificial object (Q16686448), economic activity (Q8187769) or food preparation technique (Q1039303)
ExampleBreaking Bad (Q1079) → United States of America (Q30)
mozzarella (Q14088) → Italy (Q38)
Stamppot (Q1346373) → Netherlands (Q55)
Come Together (Q210482) → United Kingdom (Q145)
Tracking: sameno label (Q42533248)
Tracking: differencesno label (Q57386657)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P495 (Q23909034)
Tracking: local yes, WD nono label (Q32070727)
<complementary property>production company (P272), place of publication (P291), location of creation (P1071)
See alsolocation of creation (P1071), country of citizenship (P27), headquarters location (P159), country (P17), country for sport (P1532), location of formation (P740), indigenous to (P2341), place of publication (P291), location of discovery (P189), place of birth (P19), type locality (geology) (P2695), type locality (biology) (P5304), filming location (P915), production company (P272), ancestral home (P66), language of work or name (P407)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total1,783,876
Main statement1,781,16199.8% of uses
Qualifier2,6650.1% of uses
Reference50<0.1% of uses
Search for values
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200), Wikibase MediaInfo (Q59712033): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P495#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P495#Scope, SPARQL
Value type “country (Q6256), state (Q7275), cultural region (Q3502482), regional organization (Q4120211), continent (Q5107), fictional country (Q1145276), historical country (Q3024240), dependent territory (Q161243), disputed territory (Q15239622), federally recognized Native American tribe in the United States (Q7840353), physical location (Q17334923), former administrative territorial entity (Q19953632)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31), subclass of (P279) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value country (Q6256), state (Q7275), cultural region (Q3502482), regional organization (Q4120211), continent (Q5107), fictional country (Q1145276), historical country (Q3024240), dependent territory (Q161243), disputed territory (Q15239622), federally recognized Native American tribe in the United States (Q7840353), physical location (Q17334923), former administrative territorial entity (Q19953632) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P495#Value type Q6256, Q7275, Q3502482, Q4120211, Q5107, Q1145276, Q3024240, Q161243, Q15239622, Q7840353, Q17334923, Q19953632, SPARQL
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410), human (Q5), taxon (Q16521)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P495#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL
Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (country of origin (P495)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P495#Contemporary, SPARQL
Type “product (Q2424752), group of humans (Q16334295), food (Q2095), phrase (Q187931), cuisine (Q1778821), subculture (Q264965), breed (Q38829), ethnic minority group (Q2531956), mythical creature (Q2239243), religious movement (Q1826286), dialect (Q33384), music tradition (Q60733114), genre (Q483394), ethnolinguistic group (Q4533081), cultural movement (Q2198855), teaching method (Q1813494), teaching methodology (Q350453), game (Q11410), sport (Q349), goods (Q28877), type of food or dish (Q19861951), legendary figure (Q13002315), writing system (Q8192), language (Q4113741), intangible cultural heritage (Q59544), tradition (Q82821), hairstyle (Q327496), tangible good (Q1485500), YouTube channel (Q17558136), ship type (Q2235308), song form (Q1824109), physical object (Q223557), fictional entity (Q14897293), neologism (Q130989), dance move (Q384748), term (Q1969448), custom (Q251777), mythical object (Q20203727), group of works (Q17489659), type of sport (Q31629), legislation (Q49371), treaty (Q131569), agreement (Q321839), proclamation (Q1572600), work (Q386724), dog type (Q38672), character sequence (Q117009251), slang term (Q42298422), ideology (Q7257), character (Q3241972), musical form (Q862597), music genre (Q188451), expedition (Q2401485), artificial object (Q16686448), economic activity (Q8187769), food preparation technique (Q1039303)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)” with classes “product (Q2424752), group of humans (Q16334295), food (Q2095), phrase (Q187931), cuisine (Q1778821), subculture (Q264965), breed (Q38829), ethnic minority group (Q2531956), mythical creature (Q2239243), religious movement (Q1826286), dialect (Q33384), music tradition (Q60733114), genre (Q483394), ethnolinguistic group (Q4533081), cultural movement (Q2198855), teaching method (Q1813494), teaching methodology (Q350453), game (Q11410), sport (Q349), goods (Q28877), type of food or dish (Q19861951), legendary figure (Q13002315), writing system (Q8192), language (Q4113741), intangible cultural heritage (Q59544), tradition (Q82821), hairstyle (Q327496), tangible good (Q1485500), YouTube channel (Q17558136), ship type (Q2235308), song form (Q1824109), physical object (Q223557), fictional entity (Q14897293), neologism (Q130989), dance move (Q384748), term (Q1969448), custom (Q251777), mythical object (Q20203727), group of works (Q17489659), type of sport (Q31629), legislation (Q49371), treaty (Q131569), agreement (Q321839), proclamation (Q1572600), work (Q386724), dog type (Q38672), character sequence (Q117009251), slang term (Q42298422), ideology (Q7257), character (Q3241972), musical form (Q862597), music genre (Q188451), expedition (Q2401485), artificial object (Q16686448), economic activity (Q8187769), food preparation technique (Q1039303)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P495#Type Q2424752, Q16334295, Q2095, Q187931, Q1778821, Q264965, Q38829, Q2531956, Q2239243, Q1826286, Q33384, Q60733114, Q483394, Q4533081, Q2198855, Q1813494, Q350453, Q11410, Q349, Q28877, Q19861951, Q13002315, Q8192, Q4113741, Q59544, Q82821, Q327496, Q1485500, Q17558136, Q2235308, Q1824109, Q223557, Q14897293, Q130989, Q384748, Q1969448, Q251777, Q20203727, Q17489659, Q31629, Q49371, Q131569, Q321839, Q1572600, Q386724, Q38672, Q117009251, Q42298422, Q7257, Q3241972, Q862597, Q188451, Q2401485, Q16686448, Q8187769, Q1039303, SPARQL
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): album (Q482994), single (Q134556), extended play (Q169930)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P495#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL
Value cinema of the Soviet Union (Q1940844) will be automatically replaced to value Soviet Union (Q15180).
Testing: TODO list
This property is being used by:

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Terms

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Seems this fits with certain terms, for example Tomahawk (missile) origin is USA. Danrok (talk) 12:34, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was thought for creative work, but maybe after changing descriptions, this could also be used for other things. Any thoughts from other Users? --CENNOXX (talk) 14:05, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe it's better to change the label into "originated from" --دوستدار ایران بزرگ (talk) 05:50, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I like this idea. Right now, things like names have origins of countries which no longer exist or places which can only be loosely matched to some countries of the past. See for example Rowan (Q18844246) which originates from Arabian Peninsula (Q31945). In general for Wikidata, I would like there to be 'country' properties only when it is very necessary. Countries are temporary things, organisations, people tend to define them as more permanent things, places. --BurritoBazooka (talk) 20:42, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also in favour or broadening its scope. Pikolas (talk) 02:41, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The constraint still focus on work (Q386724) but the property is now used on other subjects also. Michiel1972 (talk) 09:40, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear usage for publications

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How is this supposed to be used for publications? For example, take some research article published at a conference. We now have many possible choices:

  • The address of the publisher
    • Any address? The headquarters address? All addresses?
    • At the time of publication? Or most current?
  • The place where the authors come from
    • What does this mean?
    • All places for all authors?
  • The place where the text has been written
    • How to find out?
  • The place where the conference happened (only applies to publications that have been presented somewhere)
    • Probably not intended, but the only clearly defined place among the options

All of this information seems to be rather meaningless and therefore also useless. Most of it is not defined or at best poorly defined, and therefore not supported by any references. The few things that are factual (e.g., headquarters address to the publisher, work location of each author) are stored in other Wikidata pages already. If there is no meaningful interpretation for this property in the context of publications, then its use on such items should be deprecated. --Markus Krötzsch (talk) 09:46, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There are many databases using country of the publication and these claims are sourceable, at the very least, working with journals. Strakhov (talk) 21:35, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

+1 it is dick useless. What is it trying to show or demonstrate? Lord Byron wrote books on the continent and they were published in Britian. What was the country of origin? Even if we pick one, what is the value of the statement? We have a place of publication, and that sets up the edition. Why is the conceptual idea needing a country?  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:43, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I was wondering the same thing, but I suppose it could be the country of first publication. It can have an influence on copyright status. Ghouston (talk) 10:57, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
But there's another property for that, place of publication (P291). I was wondering whether it's correct to say that the country of origin of New Rose Hotel (Q7011334) is Canada (the author is Canadian-American, and lives in Vancouver, but he could have written the short story in Fiji, for all I know). Ghouston (talk) 11:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, the value "Canada" came from enwiki, where en:Template:Infobox short story says that the country is the "home country of author", which I interpret as country of residence, perhaps at the time of first publication. With multiple authors you could have multiple countries? Ghouston (talk) 11:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Finer localisation

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Hello,

I am using or considering using this property for archeological items, but I would often require a sort of "Made in" property that could also link to a region, a city, a place or maybe even a particular workshop. Do we have something appropriate for the purpose?

thank you very much! Rama (talk) 08:18, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Rama: I am not sure, but perhaps location of creation (P1071) would suit your needs. Regards --NicoScribe (talk) 16:17, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to "origin place"?

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I think this property shouldn't be restricted to countries, but to any place. There's many items that could use the renamed property, like viruses or software attacks:

⟨ ILOVEYOU (Q856096)  View with Reasonator View with SQID ⟩ place of origin Search ⟨ Manila (Q1461) ⟩

instead of

⟨ ILOVEYOU (Q856096)  View with Reasonator View with SQID ⟩ country of origin (P495) View with SQID ⟨ Philippines (Q928) ⟩

--Giovanni Alfredo Garciliano Díaz ★ diskutujo 23:30, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, some topics can only be localized to a region larger than a country, e.g. civil law (legal system) (Q5950118) -> continental Europe (Q466039) 73.202.12.249 05:28, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Le origines Loubnaellll (talk) 23:48, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Occupied Territory as Country of Origin

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Hi,

Hopefully this is the right place to discuss this.

A Value Type Constraint appears when Country of Origin is selected to be a Occupied Territory. Example: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q96146434

As these periods can have significant impact on cultural production, Country of Origin should also include occupied territory (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2577883) and/or former administrative territorial entity (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19953632), especially if the occupation involves an entire nation/country.

A key example would be Late Spring (Q743203) the movie, that was made during the Allied occupation of Japan and had to work within the censorship rules of the Allied Countries. The movie also has thematic elements dealing with the occupation in the background. As such, this movie is a product of and influenced by the occupation.


Thank You for this property! Please let me know if you feel any conflicts may arise by adding the above.

--Wallacegromit1 (talk) 19:47, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with using "historical state" but not with occupation of Japan (Q696251). This seems to me occupation (action) or historical period (time range) but not a territorial entity. It's like Anschluss (Q154681). --Infovarius (talk) 18:13, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming

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@Wallacegromit1, Tinker Bell , Infovarius :, et al.

After accepting that the location does not necessarily have to be a country, I reiterate that we should change the name.

I suggest two first names. Please, add more suggestions and/or vote. Thanks. Amadalvarez (talk) 20:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC):[reply]

place of origin. Based on present "country of origin", but more flexible.

original location. Valid for the original location where the item "was born" / "comes from", as now. But also where the item "was originally located". It applies specially to works of art to indicate the place where it was originally placed. For example: Parthenon Frieze (Q3087894) is originally from Athens (not UK) & Luxor Obelisk (Q1503331) from Egypt (or Luxor), not France or Paris.

Samples for usecase?

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@Jura1:
itemitemLabelvaluevalueLabel
falafel (Q188788): Middle Eastern fried bean dishfalafelMiddle East (Q7204): geopolitical region encompassing Egypt and most of Western Asia, including IranMiddle East
congee (Q878624): type of rice, millet or grain porridge or gruel popular in many Asian countriescongeeAsia (Q48): continentAsia
cornrows (Q1134267): Style of hair braidingcornrowsAfrica (Q15): continentAfrica
Luxor Obelisk (Q1503331): ancient Egyptian obelisk in ParisLuxor ObeliskLuxor (Q130514): city in EgyptLuxor
Baghrir (Q2879043): Pancake consumed in the Maghreb regionBaghrirMaghreb (Q28227): part of North AfricaMaghreb
Parthenon Frieze (Q3087894): sculpture from the Parthenon, in the Athenian AcropolisParthenon FriezeAcropolis of Athens (Q131013): ancient citadel above the city of AthensAcropolis of Athens
Nero siciliano (Q3874807): breed of pigNero sicilianoSicily (Q1460): Italian regionSicily
Lítla Dímun sheep (Q6711305): extinct breed of sheepLítla Dímun sheepFaroe Islands (Q4628): North Atlantic archipelago organized as an autonomous constituent country of the Kingdom of DenmarkFaroe Islands
Nurettin (Q15837135): male given nameNurettinArab world (Q143487): geographic and cultural region; collective term for the Arabic-speaking countries of Asia and Africa, or of Asia onlyArab world
Mechitharine (Q17009825): Alcoholic beverageMechitharineVienna (Q1741): capital of and state in AustriaVienna
Poma de Girona (Q21086085): apples from GironaPoma de GironaAlt Empordà (Q6904): Catalan comarca (county) in the vegueria (region) of GironaAlt Empordà
Poma de Girona (Q21086085): apples from GironaPoma de GironaGironès (Q12752): Catalan comarca (county) in the vegueria (region) of GironaGironès
Poma de Girona (Q21086085): apples from GironaPoma de GironaPla de l'Estany (Q12762): Catalan comarca (county) in the vegueria (region) of GironaPla de l’Estany
Poma de Girona (Q21086085): apples from GironaPoma de GironaBaix Empordà (Q12768): Catalan comarca (county) in the vegueria (region) of GironaBaix Empordà
Poma de Girona (Q21086085): apples from GironaPoma de GironaSelva (Q12778): comarca (county) in Catalonia, SpainSelva
Retaule de Vallmoll (Q47092786): no descriptionRetaule de VallmollSanta Maria de Vallmoll (Q571993): church building in Vallmoll, SpainSanta Maria de Vallmoll
gaboussi (Q62604102): traditional guitarGaboussiMayotte (Q17063): French overseas region and department located in the Indian OceanMayotte
cantiq (Q97265894): Crimean Tatar foodcantiqTatarstan (Q5481): federal subject of RussiaRepublic of Tatarstan
Chimique (Q100347910): synthetic drugChimiqueMayotte (Q17063): French overseas region and department located in the Indian OceanMayotte
Ovidi4 (Q105572694): music bandOvidi4Catalan Countries (Q234963): territories where Catalan is the native languageCatalan Countries
As now, there are excluded wrong values already detected in Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P495#Types_statistics, mainly related with the use of the concept instead of the place (ex.:national cuisine (Q1968435) or modern language (Q1288568)).
Thanks, Amadalvarez (talk) 06:15, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Jura1: Do you really understand the scope of the change ?. I'm not proposing to accept under this property things different that already are. I'm just proposing "adjust the name" to one reality that already are. The previous list are samples that "have this property" and its value is not exactly a "country", but a different dimension of location or point, from a continent to a church. It's just a change of one word (country → place) to adjust the definition to a different scale from these that property was created.
Answering to your new question: May be. However, most of them doesn't fit in its constraints to use indigenous to (P2341).
Thanks to ping when you answer. Amadalvarez (talk) 05:25, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Jura1: meager list of P2341 usage:
SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?p495 ?p495Label ?p2341 ?p2341Label WHERE {
  SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
  VALUES ?item {
    wd:Q188788
    wd:Q878624
    wd:Q1503331
    wd:Q2879043
    wd:Q3087894
    wd:Q3874807
    wd:Q6711305
    wd:Q21086085
    wd:Q47092786
    wd:Q62604102
    wd:Q97265894
    wd:Q100347910
    wd:Q105572694
  }
  ?item wdt:P495 ?p495.
  OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P2341 ?p2341. }
}
Try it!
Salut ! Amadalvarez (talk) 05:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think you followed the explanation about "country of origin" for works. That currently some values are incorrect, doesn't mean one should change the label. Not sure why P2341 removed food from the type constraint (despite there being a sample with sushi). Seems something that can be fine-tuned there. --- Jura 06:23, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Dear, @Jura1:. Please ping me when you answer me. Helps to reduce delays in responses. Thanks.
I'm not sure I understand your answer. I have no interest in whether or not the food should be covered by P4321. My request is not about the products that may or may not have the P495. It is related to the geographical scope to be included as a value, and this does affect the name of the P495.
P495 may contain, and contains, values ​​that are not a "country" without being a mistake; they may be a region, a city, or a continent, as I have shown. That is why I am asking to change the name.
"Indigenous to" is not the same as "country of origin"; if they were, we could merge both properties. But they are not. The Luxor Obelisk (Q1503331) is not "indigenous" to Luxor, but its "origin" is Luxor, which is not a country, but a city. Therefore, we do not mix the P4321 in this debate, simply to try to avoid the name change requested.
You can also appreciate that I am not the only one who supports the request. I beg you to join in with your support as well. Thanks. Amadalvarez (talk) 16:31, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe other users have usecases not yet covered by existing properties. In any case, "country of origin" works for films, but "place of origin" wont work any more. --- Jura 13:54, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

منشأ الكسكس

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منشأ الكسكس هو الجزائر في فترة المملكة النوميدية و وجدت أقدم الاواني فضريح الملك الأمازيغي ماسينسا Mira smail (talk) 14:33, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Add "textile process" as value

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Does anyone object to adding textile process (Q7708485) as an allowed subject-type? See example at röllakan (Q10659017). - PKM (talk) 23:38, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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