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Motorsport
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[edit]- Josh MacDonald (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTCRIT. All primary sources except 2. The BBC article does not even mention MacDonald. The Echo article may be considered third party coverage but SPORTCRIT requires multiple sources. There appears to be a namesake who is an Australian footballer. LibStar (talk) 01:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Jaimon Lidsey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. All sources provided are primary except the Eurosport article. When I read that article it contains no mention of Lidsey. A search for sources only comes up with speedway related sources which are primary. LibStar (talk) 01:42, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Tony Langdon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. A search under his name and "Anthony Langdon" yielded no sources. I also searched Australian database trove and it only yielded two 1 line mentions of this person. LibStar (talk) 09:21, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Clube de Regatas do Flamengo (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as besides WP:PRIMARY, the only sources only cover a test session, less about the team to help it to assert notability. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 09:19, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:11, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- AC Milan (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as besides WP:PRIMARY and a dead link, the only sources only cover a drivers' signings, less about the team to help it to assert notability. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 11:24, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:10, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Olympiacos CFP (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as besides WP:PRIMARY and a dead link, the only sources only cover a driver's crash and his medical update, less about the team to help it to assert notability. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 11:22, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:11, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. Not notable for an encyclopedia. D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:09, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Why should they be deleted? It was a major event, an attempt by many well-known European teams to expand into motorsport.https://www.protothema.gr/car-and-speed/racing/article/72231/superleague-formula-phre-ton-teliko-o-olympiakos-video/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Montigliani (talk • contribs) 19:55, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- There are also many media covering the event https://www.gpro.net/gb/TeamProfile.asp?ID=278, https://superleagueformula.wordpress.com/who-en/clubs-en/club2-en/, https://www.speedsport-magazine.com/motorsport/formula-level1/superleague-formula/2010/photo-sf-team-olympiacos-piraeus-gu-racing--panoz-dp09b-menard-jani-17489_-_17489.html Montigliani (talk) 23:25, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Atlético de Madrid (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as besides WP:PRIMARY and a dead link, the only sources only cover a driver's signing, less about the team to help it to assert notability. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 09:19, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:11, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sport Club Corinthians Paulista (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as besides WP:PRIMARY and a dead link, the only sources only cover an announcment of the first race, less about the team to help it to assert notability. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 09:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:14, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sevilla FC (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as the only sources only cover a driver's signing and a race report, less about the team to help it to assert notability. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 09:02, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:12, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Beijing Guoan (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as the only sources only cover race reports, less about the team to help it to assert notability. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:59, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:12, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Borussia Dortmund (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as the only sources only cover race reports, less about the team. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:58, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:12, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- R.S.C. Anderlecht (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as the only source only cover an announcement to a driver's signing. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:50, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:12, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- FC Midtjylland (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as the only source only cover an announcement to a driver's signing. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:48, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:14, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sporting CP (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as the only source only cover an announcement to a driver's signing and the other is now dead. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:48, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:12, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Tottenham Hotspur (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as the only source only cover an announcement to a driver's signing. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:45, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Comments There maybe enough for some basic form of WP:GNG pass, I found sources, [1] (primary source), [2], [3], [4], [5], [6] (primary) , [7], [8], this one has a few hits on britsonpole.com which might be useful. [9], [10], [11]. Need I go on, there are a lot of hits to digest. There are more online, what kind of WP:BEFORE did you do? Besides, you talk a load of codswallop, I looked at your nominations just now, and the work load you did. It's nothing short than just, I don't like this shit so I am going to nominate all these articles for AfD. I don't disagree there are problems with these articles, but your process and this nomination, and the rest you've done. Well, you should be reported to WP:ANI for the process. You are not here to build an encyclopaedia. Govvy (talk) 09:56, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- First off all WP:PRIMARY do not count for notability, thus are all ignored. Reviewing them, this is what I say in WP:RS
- [12] - about the series, which gives more weight for the series, not the team
- [13] - about the partnership between F1 and the eponymous football team, the 'team' has pitiful amount of coverage to it. A regurgitation of article provided below.
- [14] - again WP:PRIMARY - do not count for notability.
- [15] - same as above, another regurgitation of press releases
- [16] - primarily about the series, far less about the series
- [17] - as above, another regurgitation of press releases
- britsonpole.com - same I mentioned below
- [18] is another WP:ROUTINE announcement that a team is retaining a driver for another season, does it assert notability for the team? The operating team is notable, no doubt.
- [19] - another announcement, dubious source. More like a site run by hobbyists/student journalist. Very little weight for WP:RS.
- [20] is about the 2010 season with a tiny bit to promote the races as usual as you would expect in local papers. Not much about the 'teams'
- This may help pass in 2010 but this is 2024, so none of these will support the notability of the teams nominated or provide WP:SIGCOV. (Personal attack removed) BTW, you speak of WP:IDONTLIKEIT given by your response. SpacedFarmer (talk) 11:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- First off all WP:PRIMARY do not count for notability, thus are all ignored. Reviewing them, this is what I say in WP:RS
- Comment I am not sure I want to reply to you, but you do know there is nothing wrong with primary sources in an article, primary can be used to back up basic facts. You can use primary and secondary sources together to show a notable point. That is a point about facts matching each other. I honestly don't know why so many people forget this. You can break down the sources I provided all you like, I am just showing there are sources that can be used and some basic form that could pass, at what point did I say keep on the comment above, if I truly want an article to be kept, I would put keep in bold at the beginning and not comment! Govvy (talk) 11:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:16, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- AS Roma (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as the only source only cover an announcement to a driver's signing. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:43, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:12, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- PSV Eindhoven (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as the only source only cover an announcement to a driver's signing. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:42, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:12, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as the only source only cover an announcement to a driver's signing. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:41, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:13, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Olympique Lyonnais (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as the only source only cover an announcement to a driver's signing. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:40, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:13, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:17, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Galatasaray S.K. (Superleague Formula team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as sources are non-existent. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:35, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:14, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as sources are non-existent. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:33, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:13, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as sources are non-existent. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:13, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as sources, are non-existent. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I believe that all of the SF team pages should remain, as a usual summary of the performances, regardless that the series lasted only 3-4 years. Are you suggesting that all of the A1 Grand Prix country team pages are also not notable? Officially Mr X (talk) 01:13, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK of teams that never was independently notable and existed solely to the short-lived series, serving to only the most ardent fans per WP:FANCRUFT as a Wikiproject taskforce was active for it. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 13 years ago. WP:BEFORE search don’t turn out much other than announcements, if they still exist. Other than routine maintenances, article do not appear to be updated after 2010, indicating it's significance are pretty thin.
Also fail WP:SIGCOV as sources, are non-existent. Like the series, nothing about it is notable either other than the team operating it. Insufficiently notable WP:GNG to help either. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:30, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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I am also nominating these as they have the same issues as mentioned below.
- Acceleration Team France (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Acceleration Team Germany (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Acceleration Team Italy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Acceleration Team Mexico (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Acceleration Team Netherlands (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Acceleration Team Portugal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Acceleration Team Slovakia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Acceleration Team Spain (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK per WP:FANCRUFT. Worthy of Fandom maybe (nothing wrong with it for those who ask) but then the series has been long gone 10 years ago.
Also fail WP:NTEAM and WP:SIGCOV as sources primarily consists of WP:PRIMARY and the tidbits of social media posts. Fails WP:GNG. The same issues applies to all the articles nominated as they have the same issues in common. SpacedFarmer (talk) 09:16, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete – Per nominator's rationale. 5225C (talk • contributions) 11:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. All articles were created in April 2014 by the same user. As it turned out – FA1 lasted one year, coverage was sparse and they were never updated again. They've survived the passage of time with little to no encyclopaedic value; the only useful piece of info is which outfit ran each of the teams, which I've just added to the 2014 season article. MSport1005 (talk) 12:36, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: In concurrence with the nominator's assessment. XxTechnicianxX (talk) 22:05, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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There is nothing new about sports series that have burst out in a blaze of publicity then vanished without trace like this one. Having checked WP:BEFORE, independent coverages are extremely thin bar the of press releases, using Tesla to make a buzz for publicity. Numerous of these sources are WP:PRIMARY. WP:SIGCOV is very lacking as sources do not assert notability.
Some what is written are uncited without a single source such as it 'was cancelled due to a lack of a lead investor', indicating that it died without ceremony like it happen to most failed start-up businesses. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:52, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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Keep – Sources in article probably already indicate significant coverage, even if they didn't there are sufficient sources available to expand.5225C (talk • contributions) 11:48, 14 August 2024 (UTC)- Three of those from motorsport.com are WP:ROUTINE announcments, electricgt.news is a dead link. Most of the WP:RS are routine announcments. Teslarati looks like another dubious hobbyist site at best, the kind that plagues the internet. SpacedFarmer (talk) 23:27, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – You know what, I'm inclined to agree. I don't think the Motorsport.compieces are necessarily routine, but the fact is that there are just announcements. If there had been drivers and teams signed up, then I would be 100% for keeping this, but there's clearly no enduring notability for what was essentially speculative. I don't even care about it now, it won't even register as trivia in a decade. 5225C (talk • contributions) 02:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Three of those from motorsport.com are WP:ROUTINE announcments, electricgt.news is a dead link. Most of the WP:RS are routine announcments. Teslarati looks like another dubious hobbyist site at best, the kind that plagues the internet. SpacedFarmer (talk) 23:27, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Don't see any coverage here suggesting this meets the WP:NORG or WP:GNG. Coverage appears limited to routine announcements. Let'srun (talk) 18:50, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Kelvin Mullarkey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and is based on primary sources. Google books search comes up with 4 hits, but they don't appear to be indepth coverage. LibStar (talk) 03:12, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep double national champion per #4 of WP:NMOTORSPORT. SpacedFarmer (talk) 10:50, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Please explain how this meets WP:SPORTCRIT Geschichte (talk) 14:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @SpacedFarmer, This person seems to be a double champion in the second tier of British speedway racing, which I do not believe is comparably significant to something like Super GT or the British Superbike Championship. I have started a discussion at WT:MOTORSPORT about the notability of motorcycle speedway riders. Please also note that WP:NMOTORSPORT is intended more as a guideline for which articles should require a far more thorough WP:BEFORE search rather than an argument in-and-of itself for keeping or deleting an article. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 21:54, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. How in-depth are your WP:BEFORE searches? There is regular coverage in the British papers, see here. Specifically: Mullarkey back with a bang (Harlow Star, 1986); Mullarkey back at Rye! (Mercury, 1984); and Kevin joins Canterbury (Mercury and Reformer, 1983). BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Brands Hatch Racing (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable team that did not qualify for a single Grand Prix it entered. WP:SIGCOV is literally non-existent. All WP:RS leads to the track it is named after. SpacedFarmer (talk) 08:37, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge – Brands Hatch Racing was the circuit's team and was run by John Webb while he was chief executive of Brands Hatch. There are a few other races which aren't mentioned in the existing article. This can be better covered on the circuit's article. 5225C (talk • contributions) 12:33, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support deletion - although your argument about never qualifying for a race could hold true for the equally awful Life Racing Engines GarethBaloney (talk) 13:12, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. I see a consensus to Keep this article. Liz Read! Talk! 23:54, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Edgar Stangeland (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Only primary sources provided. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 00:04, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. A certain amount of these speedway AFDs seem somewhat premature, coming in rapid succession. Where are you doing your WP:BEFORE? Please don't answer Google, I'd like to direct the attention here. Geschichte (talk) 07:31, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Some have been deleted, some have been retained. It's not really rapid succession. LibStar (talk) 07:36, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- But to what extent have you done WP:BEFORE searches? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Some have been deleted, some have been retained. It's not really rapid succession. LibStar (talk) 07:36, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep national champion per #4 of WP:NMOTORSPORT. SpacedFarmer (talk) 10:51, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Not because of any SNG (subject-specific notability guideline), but because the GNG (general notability guideline) appears to have been met through articles like this coverage of the national championship, this coverage of ventures in England, this coverage of the Nordic championships (which Stangeland also won) and this coverage of a non-championship meet. The latter plays a role in confirming that speedway gathered relatively large audiences, 3,000 to be more specific, a fanbase which again led to demand for speedway articles in the press etc. Speedway has declined quite a lot in Norway today, but was a part of the cultural zeitgeist back then. Lastly, the BEFORE appears pretty non-comprehensive; this was a guy active in the 1970s, so you can't expect any online coverage. Geschichte (talk) 13:47, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, per coverage found by Geschichte, and because the nominator is unable to answer the question of whether any WP:BEFORE search is done. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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- 2014 Acceleration at Portimão (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nominated for this same reason
- 2014 Acceleration in Assen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- 2014 Acceleration in Monza (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- 2014 Acceleration at Navarra (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- 2014 Acceleration at Nürburgring (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- 2014 Acceleration at Slovakia Ring (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I appreciate this article creator's enthusiasm in the hope that Wikipedia will help to make it notable but editors should be advised of notability guidelines before creating. In this case, can it meet notability guidelines? No, unfortunately. Like everything in Acceleration 2014, nothing there meets notability guidelines.
Unneeded WP:CFORK that is solely useful to the tiniest minorities of dedicated fans, thats if they exist, and is too over reliant on WP:PRIMARY as having checked via WP:BEFORE, this brought in nothing. All the rounds are group together in this nomination for this same reason. What all those articles have in common is that they all fail WP:GNG, as well as having poor level of WP:SIGNIFICANCE and WP:EVENTCRIT, having lasted only a single season. Also, WP:NOSTATS and WP:NSPORTSEVENT, having being a racing series by anybody other than the most ardent fans who may come and fight for a keep vote. SpacedFarmer (talk) 15:47, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
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I appreciate this article creator's enthusiasm in the hope that Wikipedia will help to make it notable
– What? What gives you this idea? Can you at least try not to disparage content creators, as you seem to do in every AfD nomination you make? Seriously, it's ridiculous that you cannot seem to help but put others down in your nominations. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:12, 12 August 2024 (UTC) - Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Slovakia, and Spain. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:16, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Jordan Palin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. Google news yields 2 possible third party sources but they are routine coverage of retiring and missing out on a season. LibStar (talk) 23:49, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Danny Kennedy (speedway rider) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 03:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - No WP:SIGCOV about the guy Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 06:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: The Evening Times from 1978 (here and here) states that they were the "Australian under-21 champion". It's not clear what Australian under-21 competition is being referred to, however this may go towards passing WP:NMOTORSPORT. TarnishedPathtalk 10:47, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Some coverage here and here; also found a brief bit from Old Bike Australasia two years ago ("Danny Kennedy, born in Ballarat in 1958, enjoyed seven seasons in UK from 1976 to 1982, the last four years riding for the Poole Pirates, where he was immensely popular. Sadly he died from a brain tumour in 1993."). What makes the book sources in the article primary? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:35, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per TarnishedPath's and BeanieFan11's recommendations. SpacedFarmer (talk) 20:55, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: Per BeanieFan11's and my comments above. TarnishedPathtalk 05:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Relisting for further input on the sourcing presented, as to if it's significant or not. Late sentiment has been to keep but further input would be great to establish a consensus.
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 02:12, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom, lacks WP:SIGCOV as the sources is just databases Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 05:06, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep rode in the Speedway World Cup, the pinnacle of speedway Pyeongchang (talk) 10:07, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I support Pyeongchang's assertion that the SWC is "the pinnacle of speedway". We allow bios of sports that is the pinnacle of sport, so why can't this? SpacedFarmer (talk) 20:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- It still needs to meet WP:SPORTSCRIT: A person is presumed to be notable if they have been the subject of significant coverage, that is, multiple published non-trivial secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject LibStar (talk) 05:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- ...or I say userfy for future notabiity since he is young and plenty to go. This nom maybe is a bio thus presumably different but I'll use this as an argument. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2024 Sakhir Formula 3 round. SpacedFarmer (talk) 10:21, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- It still needs to meet WP:SPORTSCRIT: A person is presumed to be notable if they have been the subject of significant coverage, that is, multiple published non-trivial secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject LibStar (talk) 05:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Relisting. Like the majority of articles, sources determine notability, an analysis would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:12, 10 August 2024 (UTC)- This added source is just a 1 sentence mention of Levishyn and not SIGCOV. LibStar (talk) 10:29, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Per nom. The sources barely mention the subject and SIGCOV not present. Need more sources with in depth coverage, not passing mentions in the table. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 06:49, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Markku Helminen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT, only primary sources supplied. A search in google news only comes up with third party sources of a namesake. LibStar (talk) 04:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Motorsport, and Finland. LibStar (talk) 04:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comments: LibStar: I'm no expert on speedway, so there might be something I'm missing, but could you explain your assessment that all the sources here are primary ones? A book like Who's Who of World Speedway and so on. /Julle (talk) 07:10, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment There's bunch of brief mentions in older Finnish newspapers (accessed via National Archives of Finland's digital archive):
- Helsingin Sanomat, 9 May 1975 - mentioned a few times in standard post-event coverage together with other participants.
- Etelä-Suomen Sanomat, 31 May 1976 - same, a few passing mentions
- Etelä-Suomen Sanomat, 22 January 1978 - elected as the chair of the Salpausselkä Motor Club, given some awards. Very short piece.
- Etelä-Suomen Sanomat, 30 August 1976 - event coverage, wins bronze in Turku.
- Etelä-Suomen Sanomat, 19 September 1974 - briefly mentioned as the "best driver in the series".
- I didn't survey all the hits, but the best appears to be a profile/interview in Etelä-Suomen Sanomat on 1 September 1977 (link, requires a researcher account), a bit more than a quarter of a (broadsheet) page in size. Interestingly, it also features a (very cropped) image of an English language news story titled "Markku provides bright spot" by Ken Gaunt, apparently from either Speedway Mail or Leicester Mercury, both of which we are told have featured him.
- Based on the coverage I have access to, I'm personally rather ambivalent. That said, if someone can actually find the English language coverage mentioned in the Finnish papers and verify they are of reasonable depth, I suspect this would lean towards keep for me. -Ljleppan (talk) 09:59, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. With the additional Finnish sources and the lack of explaination as to why Who's Who of World Speedway would count a as a primary source, I'm leaning towards keep. /Julle (talk) 17:25, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Who's who of world speedway appears to be written by rider Ivan Mauger, as a rider he has a direct connection to the sport and may even know personally many of the riders covered in his book. From WP:PSTS: Primary sources are original materials that are close to an event, and are often accounts written by people who are directly involved. LibStar (talk) 03:42, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Michele Paco Castagna (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. A search in google news yielded nothing. LibStar (talk) 03:54, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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Keep three times Champion of Italy and has ridden in the highest possible league of speedway in Britain (equivalent to the football Premier league). Pyeongchang (talk) 10:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have added three more non Primary sources as suggested to the article. Pyeongchang (talk) 10:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- The interviews are primary and non-independent, and the press release is a namedrop. All of them are very far from SIGCOV. JoelleJay (talk) 22:44, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. IRS SIGCOV entirely lacking. JoelleJay (talk) 22:45, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Keep as Pyeongchang pointed out. Being a double national champion, pass criteria 4 of (an overly biased towards circuit racing that is] WP:NMOTORSPORT. SpacedFarmer (talk) 20:47, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Hynek Štichauer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. Google news yields zero. LibStar (talk) 00:58, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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Keep Member of the Czech team that rode in the 2023 World Cup (the pinnacle of speedway alongside the Grand Prix), has also ridden in the highest possible league of speedway in Britain (equivalent to the football Premier league). Pyeongchang (talk) 11:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- P.S. I have added multiple non primary sources to article.
- Delete. Of the non-stats refs, this is a routine transactional interview with a team promoter (primary, non-independent)
; this is a routine transactional interview with a club owner
; this is a brief transactional press release; and this is a passing mention in an injury update. Nowhere close to SIGCOV in IRS. JoelleJay (talk) 23:09, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Ricky Kling (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT, almost all primary sources provided. The one independent source is a 1 line mention of this person. LibStar (talk) 07:34, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep As a national U21 champion, pass criteria 4 of WP:NMOTORSPORT. SpacedFarmer (talk) 15:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- In which category of criteria four do you believe the Swedish Junior Speedway Championship falls under? It appears to be amateur, not professional, and of questionable national significance. 5225C (talk • contributions) 08:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- The Swedish U21 Championship is fully professional, not amateur. Pyeongchang (talk) 09:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Could you provide a source for that? 5225C (talk • contributions) 10:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- The Swedish U21 Championship is fully professional, not amateur. Pyeongchang (talk) 09:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- In which category of criteria four do you believe the Swedish Junior Speedway Championship falls under? It appears to be amateur, not professional, and of questionable national significance. 5225C (talk • contributions) 08:46, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Rode in the highest possible tier of not only the British league (equivalent of football's premier league) but also the Swedish league. Pyeongchang (talk) 09:59, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have added three more non primary sources references to the article, plenty more out there. Pyeongchang (talk) 10:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The sources are 1, 2. Stats page
. 3. SPS stats page
. 4. Team site
. 5. 2-4 non-quote sentences with zero encyclopedic secondary coverage (e.g. "But the Eastbourne Eagles reserve hopes...")
. 6. Trivial mention in transactional news
. 7. Interview with barely one sentence of secondary background info
. 8. Namedrop in transactional news
. 9. Team site
. JoelleJay (talk) 22:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, meets NBIO/GNG. There's several articles with significant coverage of him in Swedish media: [21], [22], [23], [24] AlexandraAVX (talk) 13:35, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Leaning delete: First and last of sources brought up are very short pieces merely stating that he will participate in some competition or other, so not WP:SIGCOV. The two others are paywalled, so I can't say much about those and they may prove me wrong. On my side, didn't find anything better than name drops. Regarding the possible WP:NMOTORSPORT C4, the U21 championship seems far from national importance, given it has very little coverage and is not even mentioned in Speedway in Sweden. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 15:24, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I've added three sources. One is a very short news piece, but the other two have more substance. /Julle (talk) 09:56, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - additional sources added which shows notability per WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 13:05, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Part of 5 keep !votes in 5 minutes, BabbaQ (talk · contribs) including this one in a similar AfD saying there are third party sources when there are none. LibStar (talk) 01:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- LibStar: Just a minor note that the statement that Gunnar Malmqvist has no third-party sources isn't entirely correct – while I haven't gone through all the others to assess them I've added at least one newspaper article myself a couple of weeks ago. /Julle (talk) 06:51, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Part of 5 keep !votes in 5 minutes, BabbaQ (talk · contribs) including this one in a similar AfD saying there are third party sources when there are none. LibStar (talk) 01:22, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Per @AlexandraAVX. I also found https://www.smalandsdagblad.se/2021-10-19/kling-hoppas-fa-vetlanda-pa-ratt-vag-igen-en-stor-utmaning and https://vt.se/sport/speedway/artikel/ricky-kling-till-vetlanda/jdgzwz4j, this is wp:SIGCOV for wp:SPORTCRIT alone. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 04:35, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, article is well sourced and he was won notable championships. Davidgoodheart (talk) 16:30, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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