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Venezuela

Zulmarys Sánchez

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The article mentions Sanchez was a semi-finalist in the Olympics, but there's nothing that mentions winning a medal there. According to the categories, she did win a silver medal in the Pan American Games, but the ultimate issue is sourcing; I only found database results in the WP:BEFORE search. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 18:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, and Venezuela. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 18:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Olympics-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:SPORTSPERSON. Sánchez's silver medal at the 2007 Pan American Games can be confirmed here:[1]. It was in the women's K-4 500 metres canoeing category (Canoeing at the 2007 Pan American Games). Other examples of independent coverage include the following: [2][3][4]. --NoonIcarus (talk) 18:58, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That guideline says Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject. Where exactly is the significant coverage in any of those sources that you've linked? Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:24, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I agree, the article was not ready at all shape. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 01:45, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The article lacks citations, contains insufficient information, and has numerous flaws. It is not adequately developed or reliable enough for the mainspace in its current state, and it does not conform to what Wikipedia stands for. Furthermore, it fails to follow Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for creating an article. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 01:35, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please mind WP:HASPOT. The subject's notability is not determined by the article's current quality. Rather, the question should be if the article can be improved. I can try helping with this if needed. --NoonIcarus (talk) 19:21, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I cited WP:SPORTSPERSON because A sportsperson is presumed to be notable if the person has won a significant honor, which is the silver medal won at the Pan American Games, and this source[5] furthers mentions that she also participated in the 2015 Games. There could be more coverage, but the subject it is independent as shown in the sources, particularly those in Spanish. --NoonIcarus (talk) 18:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete its still lacks of coverage, information as well as references and citation, not ready for mainspace...when using the article for creation and submission, many articles were declined. However, it is very upsetting to see this one published despite its clear flaws. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 01:35, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment 1,2 to 3 sources is not enough to cover the one sentence article and as you visit the publisher its not notable and reputable enough and Wikipedia doesn't support any of those. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 01:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. No news articles about this person that I can find, only databases, and WP:SPORTSPERSON is actually the reason why it shouldn't be kept. Procyon117 (talk) 13:06, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree Indeed its not notable enough to pass Wikipedia standards. 🌼𝓡𝓬 𝓡𝓪𝓶𝔃🍁 (talk) 08:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would be very careful with your continued commenting, Rc ramz. While I believe that responding to any, even all, comments in a discussion with productive and engaging replies is good and acceptable, you are not doing that - you are replying with agreement or mere reiteration of, well, every comment you agree with. This is pointless and unnecessary, and appears to me as a way of just creating more noise for your side to try influence a closer. That's WP:Bludgeoning. Kingsif (talk) 21:08, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify I'm pretty certain I will be able to expand this bio to WP standards - editors who know my work will know that Olympian stubs and Venezuelan stubs are an area of expertise and this is both - but don't have the time right now. Kingsif (talk) 17:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment People with English-language browsers will as a rule be shown fewer foreign-language results, so if people are wanting to look for potential sources it would be useful to include some Spanish. The general Spanish word for canoe as a sport is piragüismo, though in Venezuela it is more common to use canotaje, and adding either or both of those to a browser search for her name will probably deliver more than just her name. Kingsif (talk) 18:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:59, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]