Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Katie Boulter

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The result was keep. Consensus is that the subject meets WP:GNG. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:29, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Katie Boulter

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Non-remarkable player. No wins in jr majors, no fed cup, no main draw WTA events, no $35,000 wins. The project is pretty darned lenient on notability but she doesn't make it that I can see. Every players gets a writeup or two but there are probably a 100,00 players with minor ITF wins. Per WP:NSPORTS and Tennis Project Notability Guidelines there is nothing notable here. At least not for anything tennis related. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:51, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Katie Boulter is indeed a Remarkable Tennis Player. She was runner up in a Jr Slam. She is the Number 1 Jr in the United Kingdom and has been for many years. She has won a $10K ITF event and come runner up in many others. She is top 10 in the world wide Junior Rankings and a top 500 Professional Player (Not sure where you get the 100K from). I would turn your attention to other Young Tennis Prodigies (Ivana Jorović) who have Wikipedia Pages. I am confused as to why you are indeed putting down an incredibly talented Girl with a large UK following? Think you should wait and see how she does over the summer season. She has worked incredibly hard to get to where she has & deserves some recognition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.118.201.233 (talk) 12:30, 9 June 2014 (UTC) [reply]

There are always exceptions, so "perhaps" gng will find it so for this person. Per wikipedia notability guidelines for tennis, she does not meet them. You must WIN a jr' slam to be notable (per guidelines). $10,000 ITFs are nothing and do not meet guidelines for inclusion. Top 10 jr. does not cut it either. Per guidelines Junior players are presumed to be notable if they have won at least a junior Grand slam title or have been in the top 3 of the junior ITF world rankings. She has not but Ivana Jorović has. Top 500 pro doesn't make it either. I'm not putting her down, she is simply unremarkable. She may be one day so this should be placed in userspace until that time, but to open the door with for your reasons is wrong. Now, could she meet gng because the British press builds her up more than other countries do for someone of her stature? That's always possible. But she does not meet notability for her actual tennis ability. Fyunck(click) (talk) 17:29, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Multiple independent reliable sources in major publications including the BBC suggests Boulter meets the general notability guideline. Recommend trimming article substantially with material only based on references.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 14:19, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Agree with Tomwsulcer - She meets the general notability guideline. International publications such as the BBC and Telegraph deem here "notable" enough to write articles on her. Although she has not met the Wikipedia tennis guidelines.. her achievements are not to be sniffed at & hopefully after a successful summer season she will have fulfilled these guidelines (note they are just guidelines & not rules). I suggest it is kept on the basis of her achievements being close to the guidelines in place and her fulfilling the [[WP:GNG]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.118.197.155 (talk) 13:32, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Meets WP:GNG: most references are from local press sources, but there are reports from the Daily Telegraph and BBC cited, and coverage on tennis/sports websites[1]. It may be unfair that British tennis prodigies get coverage beyond their actual achievements, but that's the way the media works. --Colapeninsula (talk) 15:21, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:02, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 20:02, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Sourcing is not a problem, but I have doubts about notability. Junior sportspeopel are generally not notable (even as high as no. 10). Her world ranking considerably below 500 seems indeauate to make her notable. TOO SOON. Peterkingiron (talk) 11:41, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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