Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khalaf Ahmed

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Asserting inherant notability when the GNG well is dry doesn't wash policy wise Spartaz ^Humbug! 16:54, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Khalaf Ahmed

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Recreation of an article previously deleted by PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. This remains valid. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:15, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 01:16, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 04:39, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 08:12, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - played in the AFC Champions League, the highest cup competition in Asian football. Meets the spirit of WP:NFOOTBALL; needs improving to meet WP:GNG. Giant Snowman 11:39, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I thought that only applied when the player concerned was part of a team that played in an FPL, but had not played in the league, merely against a team from another FPL in the proper part of a continental competition? As the Kuwait League is not an FPL not sure how this fulfills NFOOTY spirit. Also, can you point to where he played, I can only find reference to his brother and he doesn't seem to be in the current squad for Al-Arabi as far as I can see. Admittedly there is probably stuff in arabic, but I am struggling to find anything in English even on stat sites about this player. Fenix down (talk) 12:01, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Coverage in the AFC Champions League as well as winning six cups in his career would suggest he meets WP:GNG. IJA (talk) 07:55, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - What coverage? Where? The link in the article is dead as are the ones to the match reports in the AFC Champions League article. Also match reports as WP:ROUTINE coverage do not convey notability as they are, by definition not about any particular player. Can you find any links to interview, reports on the player's career / private life? I am struggling. Additionally, with only 48 appearances according to the article in 8 years I would suggest his involvement in any trophy wins was minimal, aside from the fact that those "wins" are wholly unsourced. Fenix down (talk) 10:36, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 08:49, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:11, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.