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Unwanted title lines

Shalom, may I remind you on User_talk:Ruakh/2014#Rukhabot_activities ? It depends categories where each item contains only one page and consists of only one letter. When you give a look to Category:Han character radicals (or present this view to the beer parlour) sure everybody will prefer the appearance to that of e.g. Category:Han rad sup or Category:Kangxi radicals or Category:CJKV radicals; only a few elements have that "| "-adding to prevent from generating the headline. When Wiktionary had a tool like the Visual Editor in commons, I would have done it swiftly by myself. But without, it is a very tedious work, which your bot can do in a hurry ? So I renew my request from 2014; and will come again in 2026 :-) sarang♥사랑 10:03, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2020/February#Removing headers in categories for individual characters. —Ruakh 07:29, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

I've done those three categories, except for [[むし]] which is some sort of weird template mess that you'll need to figure out. Any others? —Ruakh 04:55, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

hardkill, softkill

At some point it seems that you changed these entries from actual definitions to alt forms of the non-existent hard kill and soft kill. So now there's nothing meaningful there. What would be a good fix? Equinox ◑ 16:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

I think the best fix is to create hard kill and soft kill. Feel free to use the original definitions at hardkill and softkill as a starting-point, with the caveat that they were clearly not correct as written (since the definitions were verb phrases, whereas these terms are nouns). —Ruakh 00:20, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Bot malfunctioning

Hi. I've blocked User:Rukhabot, as it is malfunctioning and deleting large parts of some of the pages it edits, as can be seen on Special:Diff/59224139 and Special:Diff/59223897. — surjection ⟨??⟩ 13:36, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! The MediaWiki API seems to be having issues . . . —Ruakh 15:52, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

If anyone is interested: the issue was that the MediaWiki API is (or was) having some connectivity issues for large HTTP requests. The API documentation (at https://en.wiktionary.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=edit) says to pass the edit token as the last form parameter, in order to ensure that a request is rejected if it gets cut off partway through (since then it will be missing the edit token); but I was using an unordered key-value structure (a Perl hash) for my form parameters, so there was no guarantee about the order of parameters. I've now switched to using an ordered structure (a Perl array), so the edit token will indeed be last; so if the MediaWiki API issues continue or recur, these edits won't go through.
Thanks again, Surjection!
—Ruakh
07:02, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Etymology of Book

Hi, I noticed that you once wrote on the talk page of book, and I remember you from long ago as having the kind of experise we need there now. If you have a moment, please call back and look at the comment I put on that talk page a few moments ago about the etymology of the English word. Great to see you again. --Doric Loon (talk) 16:10, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I definitely do not have that kind of expertise! But I agree that if different reliable sources give different etymologies, then we shouldn't just give one of them and ignore the others. —Ruakh 20:28, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Error by bot

Hello!

Special:Diff/60289907 seems like a mistake, or am I mistakenv?Jonteemil (talk) 21:23, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for the note — I see what you mean. There was a line with just a space, which the bot didn't consider a blank line, so it added a separate blank line. In such cases the bot should probably just delete the space. —Ruakh 08:26, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

 Done Bot now fixed, and all affected pages have been corrected. Thanks again! —Ruakh 19:10, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Perfect!Jonteemil (talk) 19:05, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Category:Tbot entries (Hebrew)

Hey, in case you'd forgotten about Category:Tbot entries (Hebrew), can I ask you to cast your expert eye over the remaining 11 (yes, just 11 left!) entries and see if you can de-tag a few of them? Thanks. --Java Beauty (talk) 12:34, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Wow! Will do! —Ruakh 02:03, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

שעבר should be an easy one. --Java Beauty (talk) 14:31, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Good! It wasn't an easy one at all! How about a little fish? סלתנית is definitely easy, they are stored in קופסת שימורים. Java Beauty (talk) 20:31, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Done. And after that, the four remaining entries in that category were all either listed on RFD or RFV (or tagged to be listed, and I've now listed them), so I've removed the {{tbot entry}} tags as redundant. —Ruakh 06:11, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

't' -> 't+'

Hi. I notice you have a bot to convert {{t}} to {{t+}}. In the process, please also convert {{tt}} to {{tt+}}; these are the equivalents to {{t}} and {{t+}} used in conjunction with {{multitrans}}. Thanks! Benwing2 (talk) 15:58, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Interesting! Thanks for the heads-up; I've now modified the bot to add support for {{tt}} and {{tt+}}. —Ruakh 03:04, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Usage notes for Hebrew letters

Hi, Ruakh. Thank you so much for the usage notes you added to some Hebrew letter entries! They are extremely helpful and clear. Is there any chance you could add them (or at least pronunciations) to the remaining letters? Andrew Sheedy (talk) 03:33, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Yes, I should. —Ruakh 04:54, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

That would be great! Andrew Sheedy (talk) 05:54, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

מד״א and בשעטו״מ

Hi. Could you please check מד״א and בשעטו״מ? They probably need a proper part of speech header. I imagine בשעטו״מ is an adverb and מד״א is a (proper?) noun. Pious Eterino (talk) 09:10, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Done; thanks for the note! —Ruakh 19:56, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

WT:STYLE

I have changed the styling in some Hebrew entries that you've created (e.g. diff). Is there a specific reason that I'm overlooking for why you choose to format them this way? Non-English entries are overwhelmingly defined using glosses which should not be capitalized nor finished with a period. Refer to Wiktionary:Style_guide#Types_of_definitions for more information. Fytcha (talk) 17:53, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Re: "Is there a specific reason that I'm overlooking for why you choose to format them this way?": Strong disagreement. —Ruakh 21:15, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Okay, I wasn't aware of that, apologies for changing it in that case. I do understand that the style guide is non-binding so you were completely in your right to do that. Fytcha (talk) 21:49, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

No need to apologize; thanks for understanding! —Ruakh 21:10, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

How we will see unregistered users

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18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Template:tt, Template:tt+

Hello. Just wondering if you can modify your bot to take these templates into account when converting between {{t}} and {{t+}}. Treat {{tt}} just like {{t}}, and {{tt+}} just like {{t+}}, and convert between them appropriately. Benwing2 (talk) 04:36, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, but I've actually already made that change. (At your request, in fact!) Have you seen some indication that it's not working? —Ruakh 09:12, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi. I looked at some pages that have predominantly {{tt}} and {{tt+}} on them, like orange, wolf, red, and saw only changes to {{t}} and {{t+}}, so I assumed the change hadn't been made. But I now see a change on red that affects {{tt+}} and is dated Jan 6, so it looks like it's working now, and I just found one from Oct 28 on grass, so presumably those were just coincidences. Benwing2 (talk) 06:54, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Abbreviations categories

Hello Ruakh. I was wondering whether you might be willing to add an extra task(s) to your bot.

• English terms consisting of exactly two letters and in the English abbreviations category should be added to Category:English two-letter abbreviations.
• Similarly for Category:English three-letter abbreviations, Category:English four-letter abbreviations and Category:English five-letter abbreviations

Entirely your choice obviously. Thank you.

John Cross (talk) 20:59, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

English to Hebrew

You commonly freely assume words came into Hebrew through English, while saying yourself that they have cognates in other European languages.

I prefer writing down the root of the word, which is more often from French or Latin. You'll notice that the words themselves then often have closer cognates in Russian or other Slavic languages than English, for example due to the ending -tsiya.

This "English-washing" thing is problematic, it overblows the influence English had on Hebrew, and gives a twisted perception on the development of Hebrew and, in the bigger picture, of Israel. Synotia (talk) 21:23, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your comment; but I don't think I do the thing that you say I do? —Ruakh 02:12, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Need your input on a policy impacting gadgets and UserJS

Dear interface administrator,

This is Samuel from the Security team and I hope my message finds you well.

There is an ongoing discussion on a proposed policy governing the use of external resources in gadgets and UserJS. The proposed Third-party resources policy aims at making the UserJS and Gadgets landscape a bit safer by encouraging best practices around external resources. After an initial non-public conversation with a small number of interface admins and staff, we've launched a much larger, public consultation to get a wider pool of feedback for improving the policy proposal. Based on the ideas received so far, the proposed policy now includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, best practices for gadgets and UserJS developers, and exemptions requirements such as code transparency and inspectability.

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Interface administrator request

I have CSS competency and some understanding of JavaScript and I have edited the interface on other WMF wikis. I'm requesting the rights to modify and delete pages in the MediaWiki space. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Hi Justin, sure thing — done! Please use this power wisely. :-)

(I almost started a BP discussion to make sure there are no objections, but I see that Wiktionary:Interface administrators says we don't require that.)

—Ruakh 07:45, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Merci. Yeah, I was a little surprised by that, but I guess we trust our bureaucrats' judgement for our interface admins' judgement. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:01, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

A question about your transliteration/romanization of your Hebrew translation of "bomb".

I wanted to ask a couple questions about the way that you transcribed the Hebrew for "bomb", "פְּצָצָה", as "p'tsatsá", because it just stuck out to me for whatever reason when I saw it. (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bomb#Translations)

#1: Does the apostrophe between the ⟨p⟩ and ⟨t⟩ serve a purpose, or is it simply there to show the lack of what would usually be a vowel in the triconsonantal root?

#2: If the apostrophe does have meaning here, is it typically used in Hebrew transliteration/romanization to English, or is this more of a personal styling, or something else?

Thanks! Mustard, huh? (talk) 03:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

This is a sh'vá ná, and per Wiktionary:About Hebrew#Romanizations, we use an apostrophe for that.

The use of an apostrophe to transliterate sh'vá ná is common — especially when transliterating liturgical Hebrew — but not universal.

It's not a perfect system — normal speakers of Modern Hebrew don't actually pronounce the sh'vá in this word, so transliterating it with an apostrophe is a bit pedantic — but maybe it's not so terrible for a dictionary to be a bit pedantic. :-)

—Ruakh 07:59, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, this helps a lot! Mustard, huh? (talk) 12:10, 8 October 2024 (UTC)