Fytcha
Hi, long time no see, I hope you're all right.
Is this word, which German Wikipedia even has an entry for, German or Alemannic German? Or both? PUC – 21:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- @PUC: Hey, long time no see indeed.
- I think for words like this one, it's best to document it as an originally Alemannic word (on the basis of morphology) that has been borrowed into German. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 11:28, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Good to see you back. :) Svartava (talk) 19:21, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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You wrote in the RfC: "Sense 1 is not the English infinitive morpheme, that would be -∅. The sentence "I could eat." contains a verb in the infinitive but no to. Rather, to is a particle that is used in conjunction with an already (zero-)marked infinitive. The box below, however, seems to contain a random mix of translations of the infinitive marker -∅ (e.g. German -en, Romanian -a, Turkish -mek) and the particle to (e.g. German zu, Romanian a)."
- Most English grammars distinguish between the to-infinitive and the bare infinitive.
- In "I could eat" eat is not an infinitive, being limited as to person.
- Though some grammarians may agree with "to is a particle that is used in conjunction with an already (zero-)marked infinitive.", not all do. I don't think we can follow your treatment of English unmarked and marked infinitives.
- I can't address the translation issue. It is not unusual to have analogous problems when we try to lexicalize grammar. I'm seeing this in considering English grammatical mood and English semantic periphrasis (including sentence adverbs) of what other languages languages treat as grammatical mood. DCDuring (talk) 00:28, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @DCDuring: As for 2, from a very brief Google search, I was able to find multiple sources that refer to the verb form following auxiliary could as the bare infinitive ([1], [2], [3]). If this is only a minority view among grammarians, I'd have no problems conceding this point and I'd update my example to "I must eat."
- As for 3, I wasn't aware that that isn't a universally accepted analysis, thanks for telling me.
- I don't have a good solution for the translation issue either which is why I chose to create an RFC instead of fixing it myself. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 11:48, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think I may have been wrong about 2. After all, the putative infinitive doesn't inflect (plural). I think of modal verbs as being adjunct-like as often they can be replaced by sentence adverbs.
- My objection is really to using null marker or ∅- or zero- in a work that I thought was a service we are providing for normal human beings, rather than linguistics majors. Bare infinitive isn't too much better, but some normals could guess at what is referred to. I don't think many normal humans could even define infinitive in a way linguists would find acceptable. Not very many dictionaries have separate definitions for bare infinitive or for to infinitive, sometimes having them at infinitive, but usually only by examples. DCDuring (talk) 14:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Welcome back
editWelcome back, by the way. Vininn126 (talk) 12:20, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Vininn126: Thank you! — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 12:21, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- +1, nice to have you back around here. Equinox has left, otherwise it's still the same ol' shop. Jberkel 00:40, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
t= vs. t=-
editHi, in regards to your ping, in general empty parameters don't do anything and are treated the same as missing parameters; this is a feature of Module:parameters and is related to the fact that empty parameters automatically get generated if you try to forward a parameter from one template to another and the parameter is missing in the first template. As a result, most templates are consistent in using - to suppress whatever needs suppressing. Benwing2 (talk) 16:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Benwing2: I see, thanks for telling me this. I vaguely remember that there were some templates where
|foo=did something but I guess that means those templates weren't implemented using Module:parameters. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 16:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)- That's exactly right. Generally these were implemented directly using template syntax instead of in Lua. Benwing2 (talk) 23:32, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Template:ja-new2, suppressing accent reference
editAppend a hyphen: Module:User:Suzukaze-c/02#L-840. (Or, to use other references than DJR, append the abbreviations, separated by spaces: Module:User:Suzukaze-c/02#L-835.) —Fish bowl (talk) 02:27, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
WTF? I’m not a TTS
editYou removed my uploads to Wiktionary because you’re “strongly opposed to synthesized audio”. Those recordings are of my actual voice. What the hell is wrong with you? JapanYoshi (talk) 10:14, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @JapanYoshi: Hey. I replied at Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2024/September § I’m not a TTS. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 19:58, 14 September 2024 (UTC)