User talk:The Anome/Archive 5

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Reissgo in topic Fractional Reserve Banking
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23:22, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Quick, eat it before it passes into my timecone:

16:01, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Finigrimm

I can give you a lot of circumstantial evidence that Finigrimm is dead. Notice how many of the details in the obituary line up with information listed in their userbox (e.g. "This user wears glasses"; in the obituary photo, they're wearing glasses. "This user supports the fight against mental illness"; NAMI.org is listed in the obituary as a cause they cared about. "This user is an adoptee"; the obituary says the user was "adopted in New Jersey".) Also, notice this same person wrote CS Queer Collective articles "Why Queer?" (4/14/15), "Solidarity" (4/19/15), and "Staying Woke" (5/31/15). CSQueerCollective.org is listed in the obituary among causes this user cared about.

Some of the questions people often feel tempted to ask after a suicide are, "Where did this happen?? What was the suicide method??" But I'll omit that information and just put a boilerplate notice. Mrs. Olson from the Folgers commercials (talk) 10:35, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. If that's Finigrimm, this is all desperately sad. But I'm afraid that the conclusions you are drawing are original research, and until we have something definitive, we should leave their page be. -- The Anome (talk) 13:11, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
@Mrs. Olson from the Folgers commercials: Ah. I've just noticed your most recent edit -- yes, that's much more respectful, and I think we can leave it at that. I think the thing which bothered me was the inclusion of time and presumed means of death, which I felt were a step too far, even if we had proof of their death. Although I can see the logic behind your edit, I still very much hope you are mistaken; if Finigrimm is alive, then I hope they will return to remove the notice. -- The Anome (talk) 13:13, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
If true, this is sad. However, as Finigrimm never edited anything here other then their user page, it's best deleted, either way. Please note also the process at WP:RIP. . Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:30, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: can I then leave this with you, please, Andy, as I've never been involved with this process before? -- The Anome (talk) 17:50, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Well, this user had a contribution history of editing numerous articles under account(s) from several years ago, but under the Finigrimm account, they apparently only edited their user page. I would argue that page should be left intact, since the user had some mainspace tenure here, and it seems to be the most recently updated userpage they left behind. Mrs. Olson from the Folgers commercials (talk) 18:24, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

18:40, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Stool pigeon listed at Redirects for discussion

 

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Stool pigeon. Since you had some involvement with the Stool pigeon redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Si Trew (talk) 22:45, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

16:19, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Is not a ... but is a type of ...

I saw The Anomebot2 tagged Wildlife reserve (Brazil) with "coord missing", and you undid the change. I can see why the bot tagged it. The article is in category:Protected areas of Brazil, which implies it is about a protected area, and protected areas should have coords. But the article is not about a protected area, so perhaps it is not categorised right. I can see someone coming across category:Protected areas of Brazil and finding it useful to see an article on this type of protected area. But they will get there quickly enough if they click on category:Wildlife reserves of Brazil, which has {{cat main}} pointing to Wildlife reserve (Brazil). Maybe the articles on types of protected area should be in category:Types of protected area of Brazil under category:Conservation in Brazil and category:Types of protected area by country. Or maybe it is fine the way it is. You must have seen this elsewhere. Thoughts? Aymatth2 (talk) 12:41, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi. Yes, I'm aware of this problem, which is generic over a wide range of different categories. The heuristic that I normally use to prevent it is to spot if an article has an empty category tag (which causes it to be sorted to the head of the category page), that is usually an indicator that an article is about they type of object, and not an example of that type. Articles that belong to "types of" categories are also automatically excluded. The mechanism clearly seems to have failed here: I'll take a look to see if I can find out why. -- The Anome (talk) 13:08, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
OK, I added an empty category sort tag to Wildlife reserve (Brazil), but I can now see your point: there are at least six such articles. -- The Anome (talk) 13:11, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
@Aymatth2: Yes, I think that's the solution. Thanks for spotting this, and also for solving the problem. -- The Anome (talk) 19:25, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

20:51, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Hillary Clinton

Thanks for your input, but I think you're supposed to include explanations of your position in the "Discussion" section. The "Survey" section is there for a quick statements that allow readers to get an idea of what the prevailing opinions are. Concrete Cloverleaf (talk) 13:48, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

With all due respect. You're making things more frustrating by pushing the We don't know style edits. GoodDay (talk) 14:16, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

I know -- it frustrates me too. But it is, alas, what policy requires us to do right now, and I'm doing what I can to follow policy and conform to both the discretionary sanctions on that page and WP:NPOV. It's clear which way things are leaning, though, and I imagine all this will be sorted out quite soon, once either the media reaches an overwhelming consensus, or Bernie drops out. -- The Anome (talk) 14:23, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
You definitely don't have a consensus at that article, for the 'we don't know'-type of edits you're pushing. Recommend that you stop pushing them. GoodDay (talk) 14:26, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Please read my edits carefully. There's no consensus for saying she is, and no consensus for saying she isn't: neither is currently allowed. I am not saying "we don't know" either, I'm saying "many major media sources say she is". Which is as strong a statement as we can make right now, without going contrary to policy. -- The Anome (talk) 14:28, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Obviously, I'm not getting through to you. GoodDay (talk) 14:30, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
I hear you just fine. I just don't agree with you. By the way, I think your most recent revision of the article is perfectly acceptable. -- The Anome (talk) 14:32, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Process

Hypothetical scenario, a thought experiment:
Say I did the research and showed that your edits were in fact unsupported by reliable sources. That can rarely be shown with total clarity, but let's say that I did so for the sake of discussion. Would your edits then be in violation of the DS bullet 1? And you should therefore be blocked? You should be blocked for failing to do your research thoroughly enough? I doubt you would easily accept such a block, or should. But this illustrates the fatal flaw in your defense, which was that I didn't dispute the accuracy of your edits.
As I see it, the spirit of the rule is whether your edit is likely to be contentious to a significant number of others acting in good faith -- not whether you believe it should be contentious to them. In my own editing experience in DS environments, I've had little difficulty predicting that. Does it take longer to get that firm consensus? Absolutely. ―Mandruss  15:19, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't do hypotheticals; but I'm glad you tacitly acknowledge that I was careful to stay, to the best of my ability, within the letter of the boundaries of the DS ruling. As to the spirit: it's clear that the primary criterion for making edits is whether they benefit the encyclopedia. As far as I can see, any controversy about my edits is if anything, now moot. Things have now moved on since earlier today, the firm consensus you sought has been reached (and note that "firm" does not mean "unanimous"), and the cautious position I adopted in my edits now seems, if anything, possibly rather conservative. -- The Anome (talk) 17:34, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm glad you tacitly acknowledge that I was careful to stay, to the best of my ability, within the letter of the boundaries of the DS ruling. FTR, I do not tacitly acknowledge anything of the sort. You applied well-developed Wikipedia doublethink to rationalize doing what another good-faith editor had been blocked for, and you used your status to get away with it. Full stop and finis, and I'm well aware that taking this stand against a sysop is not in my long-term interest. That's the nice thing about DGAF, I can take Wikipedia or leave it. Best of luck. ―Mandruss  02:21, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm an ordinary editor, just like you, as as open to sanctions any other editor. In particular, I take great care to keep my admin activities separate from my editing contributions, which is not only something admins are required to do in general, but also the right thing to do: admins are not a special class. What you call "Wikipedia doublethink", I call "careful compliance with the rules." I continue to stand by my opinion that my edits were in strict compliance with Wikipedia's rules, and I believe that the subsequent development of the article has shown that they were correct. -- The Anome (talk) 07:32, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

18:41, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Tanvir Hassan Zoha

Do you not think this subject falls under WP:BLP1E? Wanted to get your opinion as I'm thinking of nominating it for deletion. --NeilN talk to me 13:31, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

@NeilN: It definitely looks like an arguable WP:BLP1E to me. -- The Anome (talk) 14:52, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Janus (concurrent constraint programming language)

 

The article Janus (concurrent constraint programming language) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Lacks multiple reliable independent sources to establish notability as required by WP:GNG. The one source offered is an academic paper which received only 43 citations. Googling turned up nothing useful.

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19:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Victoria

Previous discussion - our alteration has been reverted. I don't know where to raise an Australian question on an Australian issue on other subjects, so I'm at a loss as to what to do ... Dave Rave (talk) 11:43, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Would Talk:Ballarat to Daylesford railway line be useable in discussion? Dave Rave (talk) 05:57, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

15:42, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Wrong coordinates

Just wanted to tell you that your bot (User:The Anomebot2) got the coordinates of Nekor wrong. Nekor is in Morocco, but it has confused the place with somewhere in India called Nakur. --Hibernian (talk) 16:31, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. The coordinates had been pulled from Wikidata, where links to the two places had become mistakenly unified, leading to the wrong geodata being copied: I've now re-arranged the links on Wikidata so that the relevant pages are now correctly linked to their respective items. -- The Anome (talk) 17:11, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

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ITN recognition for Gordon Murray (puppeteer)

On 1 July 2016, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Gordon Murray (puppeteer), which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:56, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Tanvir Hassan Zoha for deletion

 

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Tanvir Hassan Zoha is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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19:45, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Answer to your message

   Thanks for your comment, you're right. So now what about mentioning other points of view in that article, this is, something different than promoting a minoritary practice based on abuse, violence and lack of respect for human dignity. You know, some criticism or contrasting views which represent the ideas of all that 99% of people who thinks abuse and violence is not quite right. I am quite sure this will be ignored (that's usually called 'consensus' around here), but be sure that this won't bother me in the slightest, unlike you.
Thanks for your evident objectivity and understanding of others' point of view  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfgdgv (talkcontribs) 18:42, 3 July 2016 (UTC) 
@Sfgdgv: Wikipedia already provides a mechanism for what you are trying to achieve, subject to the standard polices defined in WP:NPOV. If you want to do this, the next thing to do is to take this discussion to Talk:BDSM, and discuss with other editors how this viewpoint could be represented in that article subject to Wikipedia's normal editorial processes and WP:NPOV policy.

Before you do that, you should find some reliable sources to back up your assertion that "99% of people" think that BDSM is abuse, so that you can satisfy the NPOV policy's requirement for reliable sources to be given for assertions. You might, for example, want to take a look at some of the various surveys and research papers on BDSM: there are some really quite good figures now on BDSM participation and public attitudes to it, as well as on the characteristics of those involved in BDSM. Please note that you might be surprised by their conclusions. If you have any problems, and in particular if you feel that other editors are not following Wikipedia's editorial policies, please let me know. -- The Anome (talk) 18:52, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

@Sfgdgv: How are you getting on with your research? -- The Anome (talk) 11:08, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Dumbarton Academy

Please explain this edit in which you went back to the 3 february version with no explanation, including re-adding a lot of non-notable people (please see WP:ALUMNI) and removing my 1 July sourced update about the head teacher. Thanks. PamD 11:08, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

From the earlier version of the article: "Today the pupils serve the Deathstar and currently has a roll of over 600 Stormtroopers ... Darth Vader is the head master." I saw the list of people; I winnowed a couple out who did not seem to meet the notability criteria, and left some in who I thought were on the boundary. People do not, in general, need to meet the notability criteria to be mentioned in articles, only to have articles about them. I didn't notice your update about the head teacher, for which please accept my apologies -- I've now put it back in. -- The Anome (talk) 11:13, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Sweeping away 4 months of edits is not the way to fix some silly vandalism. And WP:ALUMNI says that people in lists of school alumni should be notable. PamD 11:20, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
You're right, and I slipped up on this one by being over-zealous in trying to find a last-previous-good version. Still, at least the Star Wars stuff is gone now, and the article is in better shape than it was yesterday. -- The Anome (talk) 11:23, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

coordinate missing

I greatly appreciate the bot adding the coordinate missing tag and often add the coordinates as a reaction to it. However what can I do to signal to the bot that this is an article that doesn't meaningfully have coordinates. As a concrete example, it has tagged the Queensland Heritage Register, which isn't really a place. I guess I could just shove in any old coordinates for Queensland, but I don't think that's the right thing to do. I'd rather flag the article as not needing coordinates.Kerry (talk) 04:11, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting this, and many thanks for adding coordinates. You're quite right, it shouldn't have been added. I've removed the tag, and taken a look at how it got to be added. The bot added the tag because it was listed under Category:Buildings and structures in Queensland. Although the article had an empty category sort tag in one of its categories (something which would have stopped the bot from adding the tag as a sign that the article was "meta" to a category) the category with the empty sort tag had exactly the same name as the article, a case the bot is programmed to ignore, as it generates many false negatives otherwise. This won't happen again to this particular article, as the bot is programmed not to re-add tags to articles it has already visited, and I've added a second empty category sort tag, this time to the buildings-and-structures category, for the benefit of any other re-users of the category tree data who might be using similar strategies to analyze it.

I looked into adding a specific heuristic to catch this case, and decided against it on a cost-benefit basis; every extra heuristic added itself generates its own set of possible false positives, and this is a sufficiently unusual set of circumstances that I don't believe adding a specific heuristic for this case would improve the overall accuracy sufficiently to justify it. -- The Anome (talk) 11:05, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

I quite understand why it would think that article might need coordinates. ButI didn't realise that it doesn't revisit articles. I just assumed sooner or later it would be back demanding coordinates again if I simply removed the tag. Thanks Kerry (talk) 12:56, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

15:15, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Sara Jay for deletion

 

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Sara Jay is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sara Jay (4th nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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12:01, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

FYI

Hello Anome. I saw your post at ANI and I wanted to let you know that pings do not work for IPs - It is kinda hidden in the "mentions" section of Wikipedia:Notifications#Triggering events. Hopefully the IP will be watching the page. You've probably seen that, over the last few months, admins get a lot of trolling (VoteXforChange being one of the main culprits) at ANI. Hopefully this isn't one of those situations. Thanks for all you do here at WikiP and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 22:57, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know -- and thanks for your kind words, too. -- The Anome (talk) 23:00, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
You are most welcome. MarnetteD|Talk 23:12, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Trout

 

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

Doc talk 09:40, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

@Doc9871: Hi. You're right, I shouldn't have reverted you without an edit comment. However, I can't see any problem with the inclusion of the link you deleted in this revision of the article. If you disagree, please let me know why. -- The Anome (talk) 09:44, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
I disagree with the essay being used by administrators in their blocking rationales. It's lazy; and the essay has far less oversight than a policy page would. You didn't do anything wrong, really. Thanks for responding! Cheers ;) Doc talk 10:00, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

19:54, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

0.9999... < 1

Hi, Thanks for the link to the proof that has the authority of being "computer verified" - which by the way adds nothing to its veracity. The use of "authority" is a well documented technique of propaganda, and is what the 0.9999 page has become. You may have guessed I haven't visited your link.

I expect Mr Anderson will have his paper published before very long for peer review, and that's his business. I'm not that fussed what you do, and I personally have lost interest in putting this up on Wikipedia. Its a shame <....censored....> that you cant see yourselves anymore. I think you'll find that that Mr Andersons proof will be a valued contribution to this (ultimately very petty) question, and maybe Wikipedia moderators take themselves a little too seriously. I cant take Wikipedia seriously anymore even if I try.

Accusing Mr Anderson of not understanding Limits is pretty insane, given that everything he has said in his post is pretty well supported in other Wikipedia pages. This accusation simply observes that Mr Anderson does not hold to popular misunderstandings of limits. Nevertheless, have it your way. "He doesn't understand limits." That's pretty laughable really.

In any case, thank you for your comments. AlexAlexander Bunyip (talk) 16:01, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

I didn't say anything about him not understanding limits: I suspect you may be confusing me with another editor. The primary issue here is that his claimed proof is self-published, and that invalidates it as a source for the article. The merits of the claimed proof are irrelevant. Please see WP:RS and WP:FRINGE for more on this. -- The Anome (talk) 16:04, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Actually I think wikipedia is so confusing that you confuse yourselves as well as the people who try to use it. After 20 years it cant even update itself into the 21st century with a proper Talk forum so everyone can see what everyone else has been said on the thread. You are correct, in that YOU did not say anything about Limits, but neither did I assert that YOU accused him. It was another moderator that did that, and its the reason given for reverting the change. What YOU did do was send me a link asserting that there was a proof to the contrary. Why would you do THAT if you now say above "The merits of the claimed proof are irrelevant"? Now you say its "self published"! Make up your mind. (Sure. Self published. Now I've heard everything. Please dont reply further. I wont be.) Alexander Bunyip (talk) 17:40, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
...and here's what you posted on my Talk page....
Hi: regarding the article 0.999..., could you take any issues you have with that article to the talk page, please? I took a look at the argument on the page you linked to, and I can't quite see how it qualifies as a "watertight proof". I'd be interested to hear what you think of this proof, which is a complete and rigorous machine-checkable proof of 0.999... = 1. -- The Anome (talk) 14:56, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Alexander Bunyip (talk) 17:44, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

21:48, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Victoria

Previous discussion - our alteration has been reverted. I don't know where to raise an Australian question on an Australian issue on other subjects, so I'm at a loss as to what to do ... Dave Rave (talk) 11:43, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Would Talk:Ballarat to Daylesford railway line be useable in discussion? Dave Rave (talk) 05:57, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
@Dave Rave: Possibly. I think this is really something for the community, and in particular WikiProject Australia to sort out. I'll go along with whatever they decide, and can make use my bot to make any necessary changes of the {{coord missing}} tags: the issue is purely a technical issue for me. -- The Anome (talk) 07:57, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Possible new categories for the ‎The Anomebot2

Darley Oak had no coord missing tag. Some possible cats to trawl might be Category:Individual oak trees, Category:Individual trees in the United Kingdom, Category:Bodmin Moor, Category:Environment of Cornwall. hth --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:54, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. They should all be done now, bar Christmas Trees and one 'undisclosed location' tree. --Tagishsimon (talk) 14:00, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Thank you! -- The Anome (talk) 14:07, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
Three out of the four you reverted have no indication of secrecy. So. That's odd. --Tagishsimon (talk) 18:38, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
I reverted Koca Porsuk because it's the third oldest tree in the world. They are making a 150-hectare area around it a national monument, but I can't see any sign that they are disclosing the exact location, nor is there any sign of photos with tourists or a sign nearby. However, I've reinstated the missing tag on Koca Katran, because an image search shows that it clearly has a sign at the bottom of it, and there are numerous pictures of different groups of people standing under it. -- The Anome (talk) 21:38, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

15:41, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Abuse filter

Hi, because of an irritating AbuseFilter bug, we (Kaldari, MusikAnimal and I) are going to do an update next week that will affect one of your filters. We hope we'll fix all affected filters ourselves, but we're of course grateful if you want to help us. The issue is explained here; the current plan is here. In any case, we wanted you to be aware what's happening, and you're very welcome to help out of course. The filter in question is hidden so I won't name it publicly, but contact me in any way you feel comfortable with if you want more details. /Johan (WMF) (talk) 16:27, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

19:37, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Answer to your comment. ..

Fine, thanks. I won't bother anymore. Dealing with average administrators and editors is too often like talking to a wall. The day issues like those I talk about can be discussed here, please inform me, then I'd be pleased to colaborate. Have a nice day, and goodbye --Jlsmn75 (talk) 13:06, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. If you'd like to contribute to Wikipedia in future, a full guide to Wikipedia's conventions and rules of engagement can be found at WP:WELCOME. I'd recommend starting with Wikipedia:Plain and simple. -- The Anome (talk) 13:15, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
What should be done when you find terribly biased articles, controlled by factions of editors and administrators, which undo any contrary edit and are completely closed to any discussion? I've found that, as a humble editor, I can't do anything, any editor like me is completely powerless against such unfair situations. That brings the worst in me, it leads to great frustration and to the kind of edit you reverted, I see no other option

--Jlsmn75 (talk) 14:02, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

The first thing to do is to take it to the talk page of the article (in this case, Talk:BDSM), and put forward a case for your proposed edits. See Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle for a guide to this. It's also a good idea to WP:Assume good faith in other editors' motives. Also, it would help if you made your edits clear in your edit comments: marking this edit to BDSM, which made major changes to the meaning of some parts of the article, with "maintenance, minor corrections" does not seem to me to reflect the substance of your edit. -- The Anome (talk) 14:13, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

21:18, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Re:Bot account

I wasn't planning to use it in an automated fashion until I got a task approved. I was under the impression that it is acceptable and advisable to do sandbox testing beforehand and that bot accounts don't require approval but rather the automated task itself. Was I wrong in this assumption?--Joel Amos (talk) 17:57, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

@Joel Amos: On review, I think you're right, and I might have been too doctrinaire on blocking this -- please accept my apologies. I have unblocked the account. Regards, -- The Anome (talk) 09:37, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks!--Joel Amos (talk) 17:39, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

16:02, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Editor's Barnstar
Train overcrowding in the United Kingdom - Wow, superb work and editing, thanks so much, that, your efforts to do that, to create that truly worthwhile article from a politically motivated newsy throwaway chip story is exactly what makes this project great. Govindaharihari (talk) 19:03, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
Thank you! -- The Anome (talk) 09:39, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

17:12, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

18:04, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Request

It can be seen from your edit history that at least some of your edits on articles about sex damage to some extent the neutrality of the article. I come here after seeing your activity on 'Effects of pornography' Would you consider being more mindful before doing whitewashing? I write to you instead of editing because (from your activity) you look prone to edit out without discussion contributions which go against your interests. Also, more civility on your part can only be welcome. --JanKM (talk) 14:43, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Can you be more specific, please? As far as I can see, my edits reflect the reliable sources cited. Also, I hope this is not an inappropriate question, but this appears to be your account's first edit, made rather surprisingly to a user talk page, with correct editing formatting, and stating that you have been reading my edit history, and raising the issue of civility, all suggesting some prior experience with Wikipedia's mechanisms and rules. Can you please tell me if you have edited Wikipedia before under some other account name? (We have a recurring issue with one editor who has edited sex articles under multiple account names, making similar complaints about "whitewashing" and "propaganda", and I'd be interested to know if you are the same editor.) -- The Anome (talk) 10:31, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For the efforts to protect the redirects to BDSM. Murph9000 (talk) 15:16, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

BDSM vandal

When you get the chance, would you mind semi-protecting suffering and Consent (BDSM) to prevent more nonsense from User:Ascvlvfkd. Sro23 (talk) 01:54, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

22:09, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Three years ago ...
 
missing coordinates
and images
... you were recipient
no. 606 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:40, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Olive McFarland

Sorry about that: looks as if we were both working on copyediting the article at the same time. Now fixed. --RFBailey (talk) 16:49, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

@RFBailey: I think you're right. Thank you for sorting things. -- The Anome (talk) 16:50, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection

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18:07, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Request For Deletion of East Waynesville Baptist Church

I have submitted a deletion request for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Waynesville_Baptist_Church. The article for deletion is located at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/East_Waynesville_Baptist_Church Thank You --Timothywebb (talk) 17:25, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

No compliance with WP:Before and WP:PROD. 7&6=thirteen () 17:59, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of East Waynesville Baptist Church

 

The article East Waynesville Baptist Church has been proposed for deletion. The proposed deletion notice added to the article should explain why.

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Disputed edit on Hillary Clinton

I would ask that you self-revert your edit; there is not at all consensus for inclusion of a claim solely sourced to Dinesh d'Souza in this article, and as per the discretionary sanctions imposed on the page, All editors must obtain consensus on the talk page of this article before reinstating any edits that have been challenged (via reversion). If in doubt, don't make the edit. A self-revert and talk page discussion would be appropriate. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 09:42, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Ah. I hadn't noticed that before I made my edit, and _then_ moved to the talk page-- yes, I will self-revert now. -- The Anome (talk) 09:44, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
@NorthBySouthBaranof: Update: I see you've reverted it for me. However, please note my comment on the talk page: our job is not to whitewash candidates by eliminated all mention of mud being thrown at them; instead, we should clearly identify these claims as partisan claims by opponents. Exactly the same should go for edits to the Trump article: NPOV is a core principle which applies to all articles. Let's discuss this on the article talk page. -- The Anome (talk) 09:49, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

21:30, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

20:30, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Recent block

Thank you for blocking User:SmartestBonerAlive. You may wish to consider blocking User:TheSmartestBonerAlive as well. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:50, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

@Hammersoft: Done. -- The Anome (talk) 15:54, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

"sic"

Thanks for your message. Since the word "surburb" is misspelled, I thought it would be a good idea to indicate that this is a quote from the source. --Edcolins (talk) 19:43, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

@Edcolins: You're right! Sorry for being so unobservant, and apologies for the inconvenience. -- The Anome (talk) 20:03, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
No worries :-) I have changed it back with a "hidden" comment. --Edcolins (talk) 20:18, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

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16:42, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

17:39, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Old page deletion at Talk:Mind control

Hello, I know this was a remarkably long time ago, but do you happen to remember why you deleted the mind control talk page back in March 2004. Duue to subsequent database wibbles, those edits are gone permanently now. I realise that selective deletion wasn't a thing back then, and I'm also led to believe that weird and wonderful things happened if you hit the delete button twice, as you did there. Here were your contributions at the time. I'll add whatever you say here to my list of page history observations, but I don't plan to import any edits this time, because the gap between the latest edit I have and the earliest edit in the current database is too great. Thanks. Graham87 08:54, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

No -- I can't remember that far back. I had a look at the links you gave, but it didn't jog any memories. -- The Anome (talk) 09:00, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

16:18, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Fractional Reserve Banking

Hi,

I saw that you made edits to Fractional Reserve Banking recently. I wonder if you would like to vote or pass comment on this rather important proposed change to the page => Time to change which theory gets prominence? - BTW, yes I know that this has been discussed before, but I think that there are good reasons why this issue should periodically be reviewed. Cheers Reissgo (talk) 08:19, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

23:01, 7 November 2016 (UTC)