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Stats axes

Hi, great job on grok.se - may I suggest that the histograms are rendered against logarithmic axes (or given the option to do so) to make studying huge spikes more useful? Cheers, Bigbluefish (talk) 20:54, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello Henrik

I'm just saying hello. --David Shankbone 17:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Stats

I just came across this tool, and I'm quite baffled by the results. I tried finding the stats for a list I created and was surprised to see that there were days when there was zero hits, and days with huge spikes. I have no explanation for either, and was wondering how both phenomena can be explained. The spike seems to indicate a prominent temporary link (like a main page article), but I can't find any temporary link from the day of the spike. I cannot think of any explanation of the zeros. Was Wikipedia offline for a few days? -- ☑ SamuelWantman 20:27, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia wasn't offline, but the stats collection was down for those two days. That is why the 21-22 of October show zero hits - so unfortunately there are some gaps in the data, this has happened earlier too. I would guess that the spike is due to some external site linking to the article: Perhaps a prominent forum post or a blog linked to the article on that day? henrik•talk 06:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

ref the article on Ludwig Beck/ your contribution (2005) refers

hi henrik, thanks for leaving a communication line open. the above article needs editing, but not without extensive reference to and communication with the original author (who is clearly an expert, but not a native english speaker). if you have time, please take a look at the most recent section on the discussion page of the article, which i posted a few days ago. is there a means of indentifying, and communicating with an original contributor? if yes, would you please let me know? many thanksMiletus (talk) 15:07, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

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Hello world, come and look at my articles already

Oh my gods, your amazing website has just informed me that the world isn't interested in my articles! All those man-hours down the drain. I'm off to drown my sorrows in a bottle of Belgium's finest. Sniff!

Since I've never actually bothered to create an FA, I start to wonder such things such as which are the [probably quite unjustly] least viewed FAs. (But only if you ever find yourself with a lot of time to kill.) -- Hoary (talk) 12:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Total number of page views?

Interesting statistics you have put up at stats.grok.se, Henrik. One thing I feel is missing, though, is how the number of individual page views compares to the total number of page views for the different Wikipedias (i.e. no.wikipedia.org)? Where can I find this?

Another thing that puzzles me, is that the main and search page almost without exceptions are the number one and two most viewed pages. Any theories on why that is? I thought that most people that accessed pages on Wikipedia did so through a web search engine, or is that not correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.0.188.6 (talk) 14:18, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Meddling … There (en) and there (no) you can see the shares (percentages) for Special:Search and Main_Page (see overall). This means that people do use a web search engine or other external resources in the very most cases very well ;-) It's just that people use our search function once they are here making that page number one/two. The Main_Page is just entrance point number one (for every website), I think. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 18:04, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your info, Melancholie! Nice stats! Do you also have any stats on the referrer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.0.188.6 (talk) 10:54, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I wrote something to log and analyse selected public (non-sensible) referrers for small wikis, yes. But not for enwiki at the moment (see also bugzilla:15060). For enwiki the referrers are easy to guess: Google and other big sites. --- Best regards, and Henrik: I'm sorry for misusing your talk page all the time, Melancholie (talk) 11:47, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

One question about the page hits counter

Hi Henrik, Thanks for the really nice counter which I use often and find very helpful! I wanted to ask you something: our article Love dart was started a week ago, on October 3rd of this year. However when I look at the counter results for that article, the counter shows some hits in earlier months, well before the article was even started: Sept 8, Sept 29, Aug 16, July 10th, April 23, even Feb 15. Why is this? Is it just a glitch, or is that due to people searching for an article with that title? Thanks for your time. Could you answer on my talk page if you get a chance? Thanks so much Invertzoo (talk) 14:29, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I have the similar occasion, and I am interpreting that the article "none-existed" has been searched and/or attempted to view "none-existed". Any way, let's wait Henrik answer.--Namazu-tron (talk) 16:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

That is accurate. If people try to view the non-existent page, it'll faithfully be counted even though no page currently exist. henrik•talk 21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

This is actually a very useful feature! It may be useful to identify the most common queries that people enter which do not return a page (i.e., "page views" for non-existent pages), and use that list as fodder for a Wikipedia project: either creating articles for such terms, or setting up apropriate redirects. (It is a bit like a project of "filling in red links", with the difference that in this case we know that not only red links exist, but people actually follow them - or they even try to a get to a (non-existent) page to which no red link points!). On a related note, it may be interesting to analyze the usage data in various ways to see what people are looking for - i.e., as a guidance as to what pages may need editors' attention the most. For example, with respect to articles about places, one can plot a cool "attention map": at the geographical coordinates of each city, plot a circle whose area is proportional to the number of queries to the city's article... Vmenkov (talk) 12:46, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

@Non-existent pages: Note that there is Wikipedia:Most_missed_articles, see Special:Statistics. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 15:05, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I think the counter would also include all hits of a previoulsy deleted page that has been re-created. --76.200.181.2 (talk) 20:07, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Stats feature request

Is it possible to get stats displayed by the year (with a bar for each month) rather than by the month (with a bar for each day)? Thanks. --AB (talk) 16:06, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

If you edit the URL you can actually get the stats for the year, even though the drop-down menu don't give you the option. For instance, the stats for October 2008 of this talk page is http://stats.grok.se/en/200810/User_talk:Henrik, but if you remove the month digits (10) and leave just the year digits (2008) you get stats for the whole year http://stats.grok.se/en/2008/User_talk:Henrik. --76.200.181.2 (talk) 22:37, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Timezone?

hi,

what timezone are the wikistats shown in? I had presumed GMT but the raw stats seem to publish the end of the day stats (...230000.gz) around 11PM GMT so it can't be GMT.

Cheers!--Sweetbixkid (talk) 23:19, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Help

Hello. I would like some help. You know info boxes? Those things that give info on- like a person or somthing? How can I make one? Help... Please reply on my talk page.

Back to Mac32 00:49, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Stats Feature

Wow, I love this feature ( I just discovered it a few day ago). Just wanted to say thanks for the great tool. You are awesome! Peace Michele aka Eclectic hippie ^{talk to me} 16:42, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I would like to add my vote - great idea! - Ahunt (talk) 17:42, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Traffic at the german article Thomas F. Fischer

When the Article for shure did not exist: In August 3 Views In September 1 View In October 2 Views What has been measured then? I started the article on November 10th and viewed it 20 different times at several days in November. And November shows only 2 Views! Do you have any explanation?--Fluss (talk) 11:52, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

You wrote: "When the Article for shure did not exist: In August 3 Views In September 1 View In October 2 Views What has been measured then?" This simply means that some users looked whether there is an article with the name "Thomas F. Fischer" at the German Wikipedia.

You wrote: "I started the article on November 10th and viewed it 20 different times at several days in November. And November shows only 2 Views! Do you have any explanation?" See this link. Markus Schulze 23:37, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

OK, sorry for my stupidity, I did not add the "suffix": (Künstler)--Fluss (talk) 00:16, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Facebook?

Hi Henrik, Besides the fact that I think you are a genius, I wanted to add my thanks to you for creating such a remarkable tool. Do you know if a similar tool exists for Facebook?

--«Marylandstater» ^«reply» 03:55, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia article traffic statistics

Hi Henrik, Just wondering, could I take a look at the source code for your wikipedia article traffic statistics application? Cheers Ventolin (talk) 02:53, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Slight problem with stats

Henrik- The latest month in the article traffic statistics is December 2007, not 2008. Could you do a quick fix on that? Thanks. -Jrcla2 ^{(talk)(contribs)} 08:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

It is available, visit http://stats.grok.se/en/200812/Main_Page. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 10:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Statistics

Hello Henrik! Your reader statistics is a very good tool! It should be permanently implemented in WP. Excellent! -- RTH (talk) 16:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Is this the end?

I noticed that the Wikipedia Article Traffic Counter started with December of 2007; and that there has been no new data available after November of 2008. That adds up to 12 months of great, usable, reliable, intriguing, and informative data. Is this the end? Was it your intention to try this balloon for just one year? Say it ain't so, Henrik. --..BlackThor^{Talk • Contribs} 02:12, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

It is available, visit http://stats.grok.se/en/200812/Main_Page. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 10:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

• Correct me if I'm wrong, but that link appears to lead to the December 2007 data. Not only does the drop down list indicate that, but articles that did not exist in Dec. '07 do not appear with any results. Whatever miracle you (Henrik) were able to work to make this traffic counter happen to begin with, I sure hope you're able to continue it... --Jleon (talk) 05:51, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

  I've tested your theory on my userpage. I didn't exist in Dec '07, yet using the link for Dec '08 I get some details on views. Just make sure you are not clicking Go after editing the URL. \ / (⁂) 08:55, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Statistiken

Hej Henrik! Jag skulle bra gärna vilja se decembersiffrorna för hur många som tittat på Bhopal disaster. Men det finns inga - bara november! Kommer statistikfunktionen inte att uppdateras? Jag har heller inte sett den på svenska sidan. Hälsningar Ingrid Eckerman (Ineck) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ineck (talk • contribs) 10:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

It is available, visit http://stats.grok.se/en/200812/Main_Page. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 10:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's just missing from the dropdown box. You can change the URL manually. Is Henrik around to update the box? --Apoc2400 (talk) 21:46, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Soliciting conflict comments

I've gotten into a drawn-out and pretty emotional conflict with User:Montanabw. Instead of duking it out in article talkpages, I've tried to resolve the problem at User:Montanabw/Peter's Sandbox, but I feel I'm being rather unfairly treated by Montana's friends and fellow WP:EQUINE colleagues. Do you have time to take a look and see what you think?

Peter ^Isotalo 09:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia article traffic statistics

Perhaps asked before, but what I want to suggest is to add the use of Commons files --stunteltje@hccnet.nl (talk) 13:10, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

For Commons pages see http://stats.grok.se/commons.m/200811/Image:Saint_Peter%27s_Square_from_the_dome.jpg - for file usage see MediaZilla:14890. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 13:45, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Dear Henrik I've written some (very) short articles in Wiki. When I look on the stats I have this comment : "This is very much a beta service and may disappear or change at any time". When articles are no more considered as beta, and why could it disapper ?

Thanx and greetings from France..

--Danielcronen (talk) 21:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

It seems that the note refers to the stats service, not to the pages it are tracking -- that is, the service may disappear, not the pages themselves. You'll find the same note if you look up stats for the Main Page. --76.200.181.2 (talk) 22:27, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Where is the continuation in December 2008? 79.215.225.89 (talk) 05:40, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Howdy

Howdy, have the Views for articles in December been uploaded yet in the http://stats.grok.se/? Because I can't find the views for my DYK article Henry C. Wayne. Could you please help me on this. Thanks and Have a Great Day! Lord R. Oliver I ^{His Lordship's Court} 01:21, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I think you can do it manually, by changing the URL from "200811" to "200812", like this: http://stats.grok.se/en/200812/Henry%20C.%20Wayne. Hummm, it seems that someone accessed that page 2700x on 2008-12-01! --76.201.140.164 (talk) 10:39, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Traffic Stats

Apparently questions or comments should go to you. I just stumbled across this, and it is amazing! It is so motivating, to see a page you created viewed thousands of times a year. But, I was wondering how it worked. Does it record hits from before its creation like it seems to? Does each user only get one hit? I'm intrigued. Fuzzibloke (talk) 11:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Read answer on the first post, above. --76.201.140.164 (talk) 10:56, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Strange anomaly

If the statistics of Federico Chopin, edition in Spaniard fell abruptly to less than the 15% to should have modified the order in the ranking. They pay you the Rothschild to do this job?

--Estelamargentina12 (talk) 19:34, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Traffics stats

Hi! Your tool doesn't show december 2008... --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 07:09, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I'm wrong, but why it doesn't appear on the left column? And why with the "wrong year"? --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 07:13, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

License of page hits counter?

Hi Henrik, I did not notice the answer here. What do you consider to be the license of this tool or its output? GFDL? GPL? thanks, pfctdayelise (talk) 12:12, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Article stats

Hi Henrik, does your article statistics tool include pageviews done via the secure server? DuncanHill (talk) 02:04, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

List of Forgotten Realms characters

Hello.

I'm trying to build List of Forgotten Realms characters as a proper character list. Could you please restore the edit history of Dragonbait for me, so that we can merge the content in? Thanks! :) BOZ (talk) 05:01, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Extend Stats

can you plz extend the stats cognitonium (talk) 05:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

It is available, visit http://stats.grok.se/en/200812/Main_Page. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 10:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

thank you very very much ;D cognitonium (talk) 04:21, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

http://stats.grok.se/de

Hello, Henrik! :)

I agree to RTH that your aricle traffic statistics is great! Now, I have a question: It is possible that december 2008 is still unavailable? Thanks in advance for your answer, --Darev (talk) 22:15, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

It is available, visit http://stats.grok.se/en/200812/Main_Page. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 10:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I added links to stats.grok to selected articles on my user page, very helpful for further development of articles (de:Benutzer:RTH). -- RTH (talk) 17:13, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Trouble with your live edit counter script.

Hi, I am having a little bit of trouble with your live edit counter script. I added it to User:ElectricRush/monobook.js and added the required userbox to User:ElectricRush. I do have JavaScript enabled but I can only see the estimate that I gave, not my exact edit count. Could you tell me what's wrong? Thanks, ~electricRush (T C) 02:20, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Stats

Hi Henrik, I am checking your stats page for Wikipedia. It is imressive. Is there any place where I can get more information on how you are calculating these stats and how you get the daily updates. Is it incremental from the actual logs or you are using another method to get these stats.

Are the logs available for people to download?

bilal Bilalak (talk) 15:35, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Who is counted by stats?

Hi Henrik,

I like your statistics service very much. But I have one question about it:

On your FAQ page you write Q: What does the stats measure? A: Page views. Are these page views only human page views or are page views by wikibots and web search engines included? If the latter, is it possible to guess their percentage or an absolute value? --Karl, 134.130.4.46 (talk) 15:31, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Hit-counting bot?

Hi! I was wondering if you know of any bot that could be used to count page hit counts with your excellent traffic statistics webpage and put them into a table such as this. Thanks! -Drilnoth (talk) 17:50, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Stat update

When will a traffic stat update for 12/16 be available?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 16:18, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Why ?

Excuse me but it seems that your very good traffic stat doesn't work some days (particularly from 13-31, july). Why ? Thanks a lot for your answer and best regards. IP, 8:19, 18 Décember 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.89.67.131 (talk) 07:20, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

statistics of pageview : when are they updated ?

it seems that they have not been updated since December the 14th (and I am addicted :-))--193.50.42.138 (talk) 12:59, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

something with traffic statistics link

I tried to check hits of Ganesha in 07-2008,[1] it shows 0 hits from 13-31, which is impossible for an article which gets atleast 1k hits everyday. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 10:14, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Try any article, you get the same result. [2] --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 10:17, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

That's true. But why it doesn't work from 13-31 ? That's the real point, I think, and we have no answer. Best regards. IP, 18 december 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.89.67.131 (talk) 07:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Something was wrong with the server stats.groks.se and Henrik was on his vacation, so nobody was around to fix it. --Drahkrub (talk) 00:03, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Does the stats.grok work? Last stats-values are Dec, 14. -- RTH (talk) 16:43, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

What is the procedure for making requested changes -- when do the request boxes get removed?

Hello Henrik,

Some suggested improvements were made for a page I created (Televisionary) and I have now added categories and internal links. How do you know when the changes are sufficient? Do editors check the pages from time to time?

Thanks for your advice.

Severalls123 (talk) 16:49, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Since Henrik seems to be busy right now, I'm just going to jump in here and say that the article that you mentioned, Televisionary, looks good; I've removed the tags. On Wikipedia, you should feel free to remove most any tag that you feel has been addressed (some tags however, such as Speedy Deletion tags, should not be removed by the article's creator). If someone else thinks that the issue still hasn't been addressed, they can put the tag back on; just don't get into an edit war over the tags. Also, regarding Televisionary in particular, the first reference uses a style not usually found on Wikipedia; typically, references don't reference other numbered citations, because the numbers will change. Happy editing! -Drilnoth (talk) 16:59, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

stats.grok.se

Hello Hendrik! I like that tool. You say "This is very much a beta service". But anyway, the counting is real? Can I rely on? - Yours sincerely --Logograph (talk) 23:57, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Problems in August 08 at stats tool

The stats tool does not show hits in second half of August for any article. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:46, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Problem in July 08 at stats tool, not in August ! I think that's a small mistake. In fact, the stats tool does not show hits in second half of December 08 for any article... And we don't know why. So, without some explanations, we are less confident in these uncertain stats. Good idea at the beginning but unfortunaly... Best regards. IP, 20 December 08. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.89.67.131 (talk) 07:39, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

No stats for 15-16 December 08 ! Why ? Thanks a lot for your answer. Best regards. IP, 21 December 08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.89.67.131 (talk) 09:43, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Sally Shelton-Colby statistics

Hello. I created Sally Shelton-Colby's page yesterday, yet statistics [3] say some people visited it before it was even created? Do the statistics take into account people who looked her up without finding a page? I'll add your talkpage to my watchlist, so you're welcome to reply here.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:27, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Since Henrik has been away, I'm going to jump in here and mention that I saw a similar thing for other articles. I believe (although I'm not positive) that the counter counts all hits to the page, including hits from redlinks. So if someone clicked a redlink and went to Sally Shelton-Colby's non-existant page, it would still count that as a hit. -Drilnoth (talk) 13:41, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Is their a stat counter for the wikias?

Hi, Is there a stat counter for the wikias? I am working on the Shakespeare Wikia, and would like to put page counters or have a stat page to go to where I can track hits.

Thanks!

Jagtig —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.149.255.225 (talk) 16:56, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

See wikia:shakespeare:Special:Mostvisitedpages for the MediaWiki-internal feature. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 19:13, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Top 1000 update of lithuanian statistics

Could you update top 1000 articles of lithuanian Wikipedia, after December end? Of course it is just a suggestion, but in my opinion top 1000 should be averange of year article views by each month (so Top updates would be needed only once at the end of a year). Thank you in advance!--Pontiakas (talk) 07:25, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

For the yearly/Dec. part, may this help? ;-) --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 19:11, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year 2009 to Henrik

Thanks for all. Pedro~~Io_Wiki2007~~ (talk) 00:53, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Henrik was inducted into The Hall of The Greats

On December 31, 2008, User:Henrik was inducted into

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This portrait of Mariah Carey was dedicated in his honor.
David Shankbone.

Henrik, the inscription is in the description. I chose this image because Carey is arguably the second most famous subject I photographed (Madonna, the first, was dedicated to Jimbo), and your tool has made you one of the most popular editors on here. You are one of "The Greats". Happy New Year. --David Shankbone 01:32, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

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Hit count

hit count: fabulous, well done, you deserve Maria Carey, well earned. Of course everyone will want more. There is spare white space on my page to the right of the graph - that could carry a table or two say: the top 20 articles hit-wise; the greatest improved number of hits; most hit people etc. Sure you've thought of all this. Granitethighs (talk) 08:55, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia article stats

Hello,

When can i see the stats of January 2009?

Mezelf14 (talk) 13:25, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

You could actually just add the option 200901 to the dropdownlist, since the URL functions already! stats.grok.se/en/200901/ --Saippuakauppias ⇄ 15:16, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Page view statistics only go until Dec 2008. can you also enable jan 2009? Thank you.

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Gerald Kean

Hi Henrik, I have some issues with the above article. The individual concerned ia a solicitor (lawyer) who appears to rejoice in being termed a 'celebrity'. That in itself is highly subjective. Also is the purpose of wikipedia to have articles written about oneself as a function of self publicity? It seems that the main author of this article writes a large volume of Irish tv based entries, factual and neutral or free publicity? The substance of the article is mainly showbiz trivia and also seems to be misleading. The 'bought his wife a jet' quote which was actually featured in wiki recently is contradicted by the source (7), it says he bought a share (this may refer to buying some flying hours which is far more common). In any case hardly encyclopedic.

I suggest that this article should be deleted as having no encyclopedic value.
Rpersse (talk) 23:58, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I have put a notability template on the page. Cheers Nicolas1981 (talk)

Wikipedia article traffic statistics

Hello, Henrik. I do hope you are planning to update that neat feature for the benefit of those of us (ahem!) who aren't sufficiently numerate or tech-oriented to handle the raw data . . .

Happy New Year! Awien (talk) 21:54, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Henryk, the January 2009 stats do not show up. I think there is month 0 default that is causing some error. I had to type 200901 directly in the URL address line. Regards, --Bushhopper (talk) 09:59, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

THANKS is very useful utility. --Chrihern (talk) 22:30, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Henrik, what an excellent service! I hope 2009 will soon be showing up. Soczyczi (talk) 12:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

2009

Hi, I tried to check this page [4] at 6th of january. It is possible that 2009 is still unavailable? Regards--Beaverbear (talk) 09:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

The script seems to report visits in 2009. Manually adjusting the URL in the address bar seems to be a workaround:

http://stats.grok.se/de/200901/Pareyer%20Verbindungskanal

-Ac44ck (talk) 19:48, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank You and regards from Werder, Brandenburg -- Beaverbear (talk) 11:54, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Page view history.

Hi Henrik,

Your page view history tool is proving very useful for my media research. As of now, there is no data available for 2009. I was wondering whether it will be available in the future, and if so, when?

Thanks a bunch.

220.128.171.2 (talk) 09:56, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Page view history 2009

The same as above. Greetings from Germany --Dellexxx (talk) 14:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

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Aggreate data

Hello, are there any updated aggregate of the data available here http://dammit.lt/wikistats/? I mean for example one file per day or (better) one file per month instead of one file per hour.

Thanks!

Eugenio2 (talk) 11:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

@Eugenio2: See http://wikistics.falsikon.de/dumps.htm for that ;-) Monthly data for December will be added the next days there. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 04:49, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Eugenio2 (talk) 17:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia page counts

Hey,

Could you please advise on where you get the page counts from? The 'page' table of the quarterly SQL dumps (enwiki-latest-page.sql) has counts which are very low for most pages; Seems odd to me that some pages on very wide subjects like 'Mathematics' only received 30,774 views. Any idea on where I can get global (i.e since the creation of the page) views for all of Wikipedia?

Thanks, Nimrod nimrod (dot) priell (an at sign) gmail (dot) com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.199.99.115 (talk) 16:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

The source of the data is explained in the FAQ. Cheers, Nicolas1981 (talk) 08:43, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Discrepancy

Hi Henrik, appreciate the stats counter very much. Have a simple query: On Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/SelectionBot hitcounts are described as daily page views but the ones here toolserver selected score v1.0 are massively high compared to grok, even taking into account the truncating by the selection bot. e.g. US is 1.4 million on the selected score and only 40,000 on grok. Have i missed something? thanks, Tom B (talk) 18:08, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

hi, i resolved with the selectionbot team, the stats there are actually monthly figures, Tom B (talk) 20:21, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Page views stats function on Wikipedia

Hi Henrik, I have a question about the page views stats function on Wikipedia that you access from the 'history' tab.

Do these stats differentiate between page views generated by search engine bots and real, human visitors, or do they just cover everything? I'd just be very interested to know as an entry that I've done a lot of work is now getting much improved results and I was just interested to know if other people we actually taking an interest!

Either way it's great to have a function like this built into Wikipedia - well done!

Many thanks for your help,

Jay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandrake71 (talk • contribs) 10:27, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

How long has this thing been up? It's great! HowardMorland (talk) 06:52, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Statistics

The statistics at: http://stats.grok.se/

Are very interesting and help a person creating an article to be enthused by seeing that people actually visit the article. It also inspires us to improve the article.

Thanks for your work

Ed LeBeau —Preceding unsigned comment added by Golfcoach (talk • contribs) 22:16, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Statistics

The statistics at: http://stats.grok.se/

Are very interesting and help a person creating an article to be enthused by seeing that people actually visit the article. It also inspires us to improve the article.

Thanks for your work

Ed LeBeau —Preceding unsigned comment added by Golfcoach (talk • contribs) 22:19, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I was creating a page about myself, just about a full autobiography of my life and it was instantly deleted. If anything could you please send me a copy of Henrick Steele to my email at Henrick@mchsi.com.

Thanks, Henrick —Preceding unsigned comment added by Henrick Steele (talk • contribs) 14:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

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How are redirects counted?

Hey - with the redirects are they counted in the total for the main article? For instance Neurotics Anonymous redirects to Emotions Anonymous, so is this [5] the total for both, or would I need to add this [6]? -- Scarpy (talk) 21:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

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Romanian Wikipedia Top Pages

Hi. I would like to ask you if and when are you planning on compiling another top for the pageviews of the Romanian Wikipedia. We could use some fresh data. Alternatively, could you give me an example of how to use the raw data? I don't seem to be getting anywhere by myself.--Strainu (talk) 16:27, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

See http://wikistics.falsikon.de/latest/wikipedia/ro/ e.g. :-) --- Nice regards, Melancholie (talk) 17:45, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

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Stop the Wikipedia article traffic statistics in day 21? Dédi's (talk) 20:00, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Page View Statistics

Do you think we will see the page view statistics anytime soon? thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.70.14.199 (talk) 20:28, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

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stats of pages : no update for 3 days

is it planned in advance, or some incident occurs ? Thanks again for this great tool !!--82.224.87.68 (talk) 08:23, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

great variations

Hy! I noticed, that the most articles in de-Wikipedia have the same statistic scheme in the last months. There is a big rise of pageviews in december, which lasts until January 5th. For example see here (or here here. This scheme seems up in every article I tried, except from Vienna (which I compared with, because it is an article with thousands pageviews a day). It seems to be so in every article, which is between very seldom viewed and very often viewed. I don't think, that there are 35 days, where the whole german speaking area clicked on every article about 3 to 5 time as much as usually and then, after the 5th of january, the pageviews turn back to a level which I would describe as "normal" (compared to alle the other months). Can you give me an explanation for this phenomenon? Thank you! -- Otto Normalverbraucher (talk) 08:38, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

"Page history stats"

I Couldn't get any stats from the form; also, the page link, more Wikipedia tools, went nowhere. I was also wondering if there's a code that you could share to get an article's hit count for a given day without the full monthly graph that you wrote, which is excellent. Thanks. Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 09:12, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Least hit articles ?

Do you have an idea how many monthly hits gets the least viewed article ? By random I have found Jason Raymond with 31 monthly hits, but I guess some are much lower... do you know any tool to know this ? Or if you know the number, that would do :-) Cheers, Nicolas1981 (talk) 08:54, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Not that I represent henrik, but I would assume the answer to be zero...especially with certain stubs.Smallman12q (talk) 13:38, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

User Statistics

I use the charts of the users (hits) on a regular basis. They are essential for understanding how the Wikipedia site Alexander_Robertson_and_Sons_Ltd_ (Yachtbuilders) is being used.

The last date where user stats are available is 21 Jan. Is the chart tool being updated or discontinued?

Regards,

David Hutchison Daveh5447 (talk) 13:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

http://stats.grok.se/fr/200901/Histoire_de_Mayotte

about http://stats.grok.se/fr/200901/Histoire_de_Mayotte Why does the traffic don't walk since 21? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.39.150.24 (talk) 18:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

When is this going to be updated. There are things that need to be looked into. Adam (talk) 07:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

stats.grok.se question

Do you have a list of days/times when the collection of data was interrupted? I noticed that there's a big gap in July 08 and would like to correct for it and other gaps in may calculations. Thanks! SharkD (talk) 07:32, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

A couple more questions: 1) Does the tool have its own discussion page, or should all discussion continue here? 2) What are your planned features? I'd like to do such things as submit a list of articles and retrieve the page views (also in list format) for a specified time period. Also, I wonder if your service could be made more bot-friendly. Thanks! SharkD (talk) 01:59, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, I thought it might be polite to show you what I have been using the tool for: Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Traffic statistics. Thanks for the great tool! SharkD (talk) 02:21, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

stats.grok./Page View Statistics Glitch

I'm not sure whether this is really a glitch or not, but by default it appears that the time is set to 200812 instead of 200901. I don't know whether its a technical limitation, but I just wanted to point it out as it would save people an extra click to switch to 200901 (and hence reduce the number of database calls slightly). As an example, see example. You will notice that by default it is 200812. Smallman12q (talk) 13:46, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I believe it defaults to the last full month. Bubba73 (talk), 00:57, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello Henrik. Since say 3 or 4 days ago, your statistic page about number of visitors for each page suddenly stoped january 21. Could this interesting page be updated to the actual date?

Also, a frind of mine recently created a new article and, when examining the number of visitor to it just after the page was created, which suposedly should be 1, only the creator, unexplainably your page showd like 10 visitors!

Thank you.--200.116.161.28 (talk) 14:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I can't speak for Henrik regarding the lack of updates since the 21st, but the 10-edits-in-one-day phenomenon could be caused by the A) The article's creator looking at the article multiple times and B) New page patrollers, who keep an eye out for newly-created pages to tag them for appropriate cleanup, may have looked at the page, adding in 3-5 new hits in all likelihood. -Drilnoth (talk) 18:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

NUMBER OF VISITS PER DAY

Henrik:

Thanks for all the support and help for wikipedia. I wrote the spanish article for the Italian arts museum (Museo de Arte italiano) in Lima, Peru. Since we are a small museum, we need the wikipedia article for people to know about us. however, the number of visits since january 21st is not shown (It says zero, but that's not right, cause at least it has to count my visit). I was wondering if you could check that, we really appreciate it.

Thanks

Daniel Oporto Patroni Museo de Arte Italiano Lima, Perú —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dgop1990 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Dear Henrick, i notice the same things about "Wikipedia article traffic statistics" as every body. I hope you will repair it as soon as possible. I wich you a good luck. Thank you. LyricV (talk) 21:21, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I think this user might be on hols or retired from wikipedia [7] check his contribs. Adam (talk) 02:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Page View Statistics

This is a great feature, often more interesting than the article itself. Hope you keep it and refine it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.66.21.225 (talk) 14:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Page Stats Enhancement

First of all, thanks for the great tool. Now one question (or suggestion for an enhancement). Can you dissect the number of visits per unique referring pages. Also, can you determine a number of unique users. Solar Apex (talk) 00:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

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Problem with page view statistics.

Please see Talk:Webserver directory index regarding a problem with the statistics on article page views. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:27, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Web stats

Just wanted to say how much I appreciate your efforts203.202.43.53 (talk) 02:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello

Hi, I would like to comment about your Wickipedia article traffic report Wow, what a fabulous idea. Waterjuice (talk) 07:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Userfication

Hello, yesterday my Trojanpony article was deleted (for obvious reasons). Will you userfy the article for me so that I may obtain a copy? Thanks. Uberthing (talk) 13:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia article traffic statistics

Is this a counter for a selected article. I hoped it, but it does`nt work. How can it be used for an article, for exmample Sonnenuhr (german wikipedia)? My german User Name is Analemma.
213.221.246.220 (talk) 20:51, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Henrik,

Can you please tell me if the Wikipedia article traffic statistics are a representation of unique visitors?

Thnx

Durdane —Preceding unsigned comment added by Durdane (talk • contribs) 18:52, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Much thanks for your analysis tool

I just stumbled across your analysis tool [8]. What a great thing! I've been a Webmaster for major companies, and knowing how minor articles are often entirely neglected, it was an extraordinary boost to find that articles I'd written with little hope of them being seen are actually accessed hundreds of times a month! There was a little article I'd written about a subject I wasn't especially interested in...someone requested it. Over 200 hits a month. That makes the effort a little more worthwhile. Much thanks! Piano non troppo (talk) 11:58, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Top

On the main page the top button is described as

.. or click "Top" for top 1000 most viewed pages for that project.

But this top page says

Most viewed articles in 200808

So is this top page the total sum of page views since this statistic tool started or is this just the sum of August 2008?

And if I leave the field for the article title empty and click the Go button I also get always the "Most viewed articles in 200808" - regardless of which month was selected (e.g. http://stats.grok.se/de/200901/). Is there a chance that sometime in future there will be implemented an overview of the monthly top pages?

Thank you for your great service so far. --Karl, 134.130.4.46 (talk) 15:46, 9 February 2009 (UTC) edited: 134.130.4.46 (talk) 16:32, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

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Userfy "xl world"

Can you please userfy page "xl world". it has been tagged for deletion, but I believe I can review the article to explain the significance of the company.

Thanks for your help

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stats.grok.se

i just wanted to say thanks for you wikipedia analysis tool, Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.76.232.193 (talk) 17:36, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Excelent contribution

Congratulations on this great initiative. Wish you keep the spirit and guts to preserve it! Gabriel Aramburo, Medellín, Colombia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.116.161.28 (talk) 14:56, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Number of visits per day

the number of visits per day in "Museo de Arte Italiano" is really weird... it shows few numbers when it shouldn't be like that...I hope you can help me out with this...

thanks

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Visit counter

Hi, Your visit counter is very useful at the daily level. I think they should make it a permanent feature of Wikipedia & give you a real money prize. In the meantime, if you get to do a "monthly" chart that displays 12 months or so, that would be very nice too. By teh wa, I assume the counts are actual counts per day. Right? Cheers History2007 (talk) 14:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

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Stats Application

I've just been using your Page View Statistics application and thought you might appreciate some feedback. I have been wondering for some time whether anyone actually reads what I write on here so your programme answers a real need, thank you. Under the graph, the boxes could do with a bit of a tidy up -at the moment it reads: "Enter another wikipedia article title English 200902" with the actual title on the next line, which is confusing. A link to somewhere would be nice, because at the monment the only way to escape from the programme is to come to your User page; which might be intentional but isn't obviously useful. Thank you Cottonshirtτ 18:34, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

just a lazy query

which is the most viewed article on the wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.98.92.2 (talk) 12:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Kannur

I could not figure out the page vist statastics till now. What is meaning of 200902?

Hello, this means year 2009, month 02 (February), see ISO 8601. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 23:01, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Graph

After years of being a Wikipedian I just discovered the page view statistics today. That is a very cool tool and it is nice to see the daily totals, but it would be even more helpful and interesting to have a single graph showing total monthly chart activity from month to month. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.117.80.210 (talk) 20:38, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean per article (see resulting URL (/2008/ only), or overall (just hover the bars there to see monthly per-day-numbers)? --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 23:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Missing?

Where are you, we miss you, come back soon. MBisanz ^talk 23:53, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Can I mirror the wikistats data?

Henrik,

Can I mirror the wikistats page count data at http://dammit.lt/wikistats/? Is this data also GFDL? I've been working on a code example that processes the raw stats and mashes them up with wikipedia dumps and I would like to allow people to run the example for themselves. Would you mind if I made a mirror of the wikistats archive publicly available on infochimps.org or other data archive sites?

-Pete

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Statistics tool improvement

I find the statistics tool very useful and interesting, but would like an easier way to find total views of a page, as opposed to views of a page when accessed via a given name. With some list-type articles, e.g. List of captive orcas, the page may be accessed through any one of many redirect pages. Although it is interesting to see the counts for each name, it would be very useful to see an aggregate count of views for the page. That is, derive two counts for each page, one of direct accesses by primary name, the other of all accesses. On the first pass, populate both counts with the same value. Then make a second pass through all redirect pages, adding their direct access count into the all accesses count for the redirect target page. This would not pick up double-redirects, but I don't think that matters much.

Any chance of it being done? I would offer to help, but do not have the technical skills. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

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Traffic tool down?

It would appear that Address Not Found - Firefox can't find the server at stats.grok.se is the order of the day. A sad day, indeed. And Henrik seems to have taken a "break" from Wikipedia. -- 76.98.14.41 (talk) 02:57, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

• Yes, the entire server has been down for hours, at http://grok.se. This is a good time to work on copy-editing (or proofreading), based on best-guess importance of articles. From what I've seen, any common word gets viewed at least 400-1500 times per day, such as: river, table, mountain, spoon, sea, etc. Major improvements (or cleanup) of those articles would affect millions of readers. -Wikid77 (talk) 06:21, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

• See: essay "Wikipedia:Most read articles in 2008" for lists of some of the stats.grok.se monthly readership data for 1,600 popular articles. -Wikid77 (talk) 11:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey all. The server was knocked out due to a problem at the hosting facility, they knocked out my server while migrating some others to a new rack, and it took a while for me to track them down and get them to fix the problem. Let's just say that their customer support could be improved. :) henrik•talk 16:07, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Page View Statistics

Hi. Can you please tell me how often the page view statistics get updated and when? --Sky Attacker (talk) 06:36, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

• Up until yesterday, the stats were updated, daily, within a few hours of the next UTC day. For 2008, several days were missing (such as half of July 2008), and the year-totals for "/2008/xxxx" showed only 10 of the 12 months (listed in the first 12 days of 31 displayed). It seems as though everything had been listed, so counts for numerous missing/redlink articles (and misspellings) were also available. I don't know how the server stored all that massive data: I tried several of the 33,000 footballer (soccer) articles, and each had stats as being read every few days. I'm not sure User:Henrik (if returning from break) can get the server running again, or if the massive count data would need to be purged to resume tracking. -Wikid77 (talk) 11:34, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

It should be back up now again. :) As I said above, it was a screwup at the co-lo facility. Sorry for the downtime. henrik•talk 16:09, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

And yes, every access for every page (including all misspellings and non-existent pages) since December 2007 is stored, except the missing few weeks in July when the server ran out of disk and I was away. The database is quite big, around 5 billion rows (5 053 366 602 rows right now, to be precise)and occupies a few hundred gigabytes. I get new data at a rate of 50 MB per hour or so, optimizing the stats code so that it runs quickly enough is quite interesting. :-) henrik•talk 16:31, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia article traffic statistics

I think it is fantastic tool. I always wondered which article is popular and this tool gives me insight of wikipedia visitors. I would like to request you to keep it.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.98.41.40 (talk) 21:31, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Just want to register my appreciation, too. This is a fantastic resource. Academic38 (talk) 20:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Great addition - well done! But can't get the live edit counter to work.ROxBo (talk) 05:39, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Yep, me too, just wanted to say thanks, that is a great tool ♥. Sky83 (talk) 19:29, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks all! henrik•talk 11:05, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

wider field for Wikipedia article traffic statistics

Hi Henrik!

It would be nice to have a wider input field for the article name. Firefox saves recent input and shows it while you are typing, but when it becomes to long, you can not see the end of the elements to separate them. --Euku 13:07, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Done! henrik•talk 06:07, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! --Euku 15:16, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia article traffic statistics

Hi

My name is Carl Wilson and I am a PhD student of film theory from Brunel University, London, England and I was hoping that you could help me.

I am interested in how the public define and understand the concepts of 'Hollywood', 'Independent film', 'Film Adaptation' and (most importantly) 'Indiewood' through 'evolving' encyclopedias such as Wikipedia. I am also particularly interested in the films: 'Adaptation', 'Being John Malkovich', 'Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind', 'Human Nature', and the directors/writers: 'Charlie Kaufman', 'Michel Gondry', and 'Spike Jonze'.

I am particularly interested in how the articles have been modified, edited and reshaped over time and how the traffic numbers fluctuate depending on the 'popularity' of the term/film/person.

Therefore, I would like to ask if you could provide me with any data that you have regarding the above articles. I have looked through the revision historiess but was hoping that you might provide me with traffic statistics beyond what are already provided, or any other information that think may help me with my thesis.

Thank you for your time.

Carl Wilson

carl.wilson@brunel.ac.uk 92.16.158.159 (talk) 23:38, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello Carl. All the raw data is available in the public from the history tab on the respective articles and the stats.grok.se site. I do not have any additional data beyond what is already available. henrik•talk 11:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Rating

Dear Henrik, Thank you for all that you do. It appears that the low ranking of Desperate Housewives at #955 is disproportionate to the high number of hits it receives (10K), which should place it closer to #255. How can both of these stats be correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JGabbard (talk • contribs) 01:23, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

The ranking is simply for another month than the views, I never got around to updating the ranking automatically. (there are other sites that do ranking better) henrik•talk 11:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Notable players sections

I am not sure why you tried to answer me over a question I asked Fasach Nua on his talk page: where I come from, that would be considered a rude butting in. I have just posted a discussion starter for WP:FOOTY, as opposed to those who repeatedly suggest it. You make no comment on the validity of his edits, and still threaten him with a block???? Kevin McE (talk) 22:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

My main motivation here is to help facilitate discussion. The correct response to someone reverting your edits is basically to stop and ask them why they did it. (the D in the WP:BRD cycle). It is not to start an edit war across multiple pages, something which can quickly spiral out of control. That kind of stuff is usually discouraged, and if you have had previous blocks for tendentious editing, you might get a strongly worded message quite quickly. henrik•talk 22:26, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

But you made no attempt to enter into discussion with that editor: his edits were in keeping with one of the key policies of Wikipedia, and a quick look at what had been changed would reveal the template that served as warning that such sections were not of encyclopaedic quality for some months. Threatening to block somebody is not meaningful discussion as intended by the BRD cycle: it is admin bullying. And your claim that your motivation is to help facilitate discussion is not really borne out by the fact that although you repeatedly said that the matter ought to be raised for discussion at WP:FOOTY, you did nothing to "facilitate" it. Kevin McE (talk) 01:55, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

For what its worth henrik has probably made a worthwhile intervention. Fasach Nua's approach to Wikipedia is hardly consensual. His attitude towards other editors is ignorant and demeaning. He may or may not be making some worthwhile edits, but he sure as heck needs to be brought to heel over his unnecessarily aggressive approach. He's done this before and has been sanctioned over it - he should know better. Beating on henrik when FN is the instigator is hardly productive. Wiggy! (talk) 03:34, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Abuse of rollback

Rollback is intended for the sole purpose of reverting vandalism, not reverting good faith edits. Can you direct me to the policy that says admins can use rollback however the hell they want? Landon1980 (talk) 22:14, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

You need to read up on what being an administrator actually means. You have no right to edit war and remove a warning I gave a user that was edit warring across a wide range of articles without any discussing. Do you understand that? I have the same undo button you do, and your opinion is of no higher value than mine. This would be no different than me following you around using rollback to delete warnings you have given out. Landon1980 (talk) 22:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I am surprised you find it a good idea to lock horns over this, but I'll be happy to explain my reasoning further: One part of being an administrator is helping to resolve problems where communication has broken down between editors. That can be a fairly sensitive matter; standardized templated messages will often aggravate established users (WP:DTTR) and will not accomplish their intended meaning as they will in all likelihood already know of the relevant policies: It is often much better to write a real, manual, message. In this case, I already had written a note to the user regarding the events. I would encourage you to withdraw your warning voluntarily. henrik•talk 22:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm surprised that you think being an admin gives you the right to decide when templated messages are and are not appropriate. If I had looked further into the situation I wouldn't have left a warning, period, but still you had no business removing it. I encourage you to learn what being an administrator actually means, you are not immune to policies and guidelines. Admin rights are not to be used as a tool to bully other users into doing what you see fit. You say "that an administrator has removed" like that somehow means something, sorry, it doesn't. Landon1980 (talk) 22:41, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I see. So you're basically pissed at me for removing a warning you wouldn't have left in the first place had you looked into the situation properly, then telling you it was a bad idea to leave it? But in retrospect, I can acknowledge I could have phrased myself less brusquely. In my defense I can only say that I was pissed with the edit war at the time.

And as always, should you desire to, you're welcome to post a complaint of my actions to a suitable noticeboard for wider review. In any case, I wish you happy continued editing. henrik•talk 23:35, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Taking this elsewhere would be a colossal waste of time, seeing as how you have done nothing that warrants action. Landon1980 (talk) 23:40, 14 March 2009 (UTC)