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Thanx for the attempts to fix, not yet on my talk. - FlightTime (open channel) 02:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@FlightTime: what skin are you using? Elli (talk | contribs) 02:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Vector legacy - FlightTime (open channel) 02:25, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@FlightTime: uh, I'm using the same skin so not sure how to debug. Are you sure you're loading my fork of the userscript? Elli (talk | contribs) 02:29, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

User:FlightTime/vector.js - FlightTime (open channel) 02:31, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@FlightTime: you're loading the Evad37 version there. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Special:Diff/1028785735/1227837374 is the one that you were working on, Do you have a working fork? - FlightTime (open channel) 02:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@FlightTime: that's the working one... it's not the one you're loading in your vector.js. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:36, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Duh, I saw the starting letter "E" and thought I was using the same. Thanx, working now :) - FlightTime (open channel) 02:39, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@FlightTime: glad I could help :) Elli (talk | contribs) 02:40, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Hrspks (08:46, 4 June 2024)

Hello! I started on Wikipedia because I noticed a couple of articles missing from the Hungarian site, that I wanted to translate. I also see many opportunities for the opposite, there is a lot of information about Hungary and it's culture that is not translated to English. I would really like to translate some of these, but I do not yet have permissions to add translations to English Wikipedia.

What are the steps for getting there? I did start making edits adding information to English Wikipedia where I can, but I don't understand the process that well. --Hrspks (talk) 08:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

@Hrspks: hi! I'd suggest making more minor edits first, to get somewhat acquainted with how editing works around here. You could also expand Hungary-related articles we have without doing a direct translation; I think this would help you understand the article-writing process better, which is a good thing to understand before doing translations of articles from other languages.

Please let me know if there's something specific you'd like help with. Elli (talk | contribs) 04:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Taiwo komolafe on User:TemitopeKT (06:13, 7 June 2024)

Hi Ki ni itumo ayajo --Taiwo komolafe (talk) 06:13, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

@Taiwo komolafe: hi! This is the English Wikipedia, and I'm not quite sure what you are asking me here. Elli (talk | contribs) 04:34, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Template editing query

Hello -- with your template editing hat on, I wonder if you could take a look at Template talk:Infobox poem#Oral poetry? I think similar features already exist in e.g. Template:Infobox military person, but I'm not sure I'm able (both permissions-wise and technically) to replicate them here. Would be a great help with the Homeric Hymns article, and other ancient poems of similar authorship. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 10:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

@UndercoverClassicist: looks like you've figured this out yourself already? Sorry that I wasn't responsive faster. Elli (talk | contribs) 04:31, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Yup, I think so - don't think I managed to break it! No worries on the response time; I know you've been a little busy UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 10:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC) UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 10:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

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How do I become an admin? Chris denny 4840 (talk) 10:54, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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  @Serial Number 54129 Thanks for the information! Chris denny 4840 (talk) 06:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  But I've seen some people become admins with just 2 years experience? 5 years is a bit much. Soapforduck(Say what?)(Did what?) 08:59, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

  SN was being facetious. Valereee (talk) 12:26, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

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Congratulations on becoming an admin!

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@Alextejthompson: thanks! Elli (talk | contribs) 20:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

File:Locarno77.webp

FYI this didn't technically qualify for F1 as F1 requires the file be in the same file format. No reason you should have known that as a new admin, really, and no point in undeleting since it will just get deleted as F5 in a week if you do, but note for the future. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@Pppery: ah yep, thanks for letting me know -- forgot F1 was that specific. Elli (talk | contribs) 20:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Sean Rabbitt

What is the deal with this article? It was deleted, but then re-created? How similar are the two versions? Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:35, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

@Bgsu98: it was deleted back in 2015; that article had no inline references (and many of the references in the current article are from after 2015). So it isn't "substantially identical" to the deleted version. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:39, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from DJ Riyana (23:39, 9 June 2024)

How to add a profile picture here --DJ Riyana (talk) 23:39, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

@DJ Riyana: Wikipedia doesn't have profile pictures; we are not a social network, and while people can have user pages, the point of them is to aid in collaboration, not to socialize. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Barnstar

	The Padlock Barnstar
	For going out and helping out in a big way at WP:RFPP within days of getting the tools. Daniel Case (talk) 05:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

@Daniel Case: thanks! Elli (talk | contribs) 14:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Congratulations!

I know you will make a great admin. :) QuicoleJR (talk) 15:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@QuicoleJR: thanks! I sure hope so. Elli (talk | contribs) 20:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Congrats from me too! And a question. I'm curious whether the new, trial, RfA process played any role in your decision to be an RfA candidate at this time? And did you feel that it did anything to improve, or worsen, your experience during the process? Thanks. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@Tryptofish: yeah, for a few reasons: I felt like the new system would be a bit less scary, and also I wanted to run as it looked like the trial was gonna get prematurely scuttled due to the few unsuccessful RfAs that took place on it (so I wanted another testcase that was a bit more likely to succeed). As for my thoughts on how it went... some good, some bad. I liked the ability to answer questions and concerns without worrying about a flood of opposes due to my delay in getting to them... but it felt like the discussion-only period went on a bit too long. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:29, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so much! That's very informative. I'm going to refer to this at the page where the trial is being discussed, because I think a lot of other editors will be interested as well. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

@Tryptofish: feel free :) Elli (talk | contribs) 23:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Congrats on your pass. Please try to make Wikipedia a better place, thanks. NYC Guru (talk) 12:35, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

@NYC Guru: thanks! I'll do by best :) Elli (talk | contribs) 20:26, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

• Congratulations and best wishes in your appointment Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elli Bluerasberry (talk) 19:06, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

  @Bluerasberry: thanks! Elli (talk | contribs) 19:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

"Draft:Immanuelle/Draft Staggering" listed at Redirects for discussion

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G6

That was quick work, and shows that you know how to use the delete button on obvious stuff. Congratulations. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Happy to help :) Elli (talk | contribs) 01:05, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Now if I could find a way to be sure to suppress the redirects when I move blocking redirects to limbo. I keep making that mistake, because creating the redirect is the default, and should be the default. Oh well. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:08, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Fx Lucasmine (13:57, 16 June 2024)

Hello,how is that working? --Fx Lucasmine (talk) 13:57, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Stupolkk on Saeed Ahmed bin Khalaf Al Otaiba (19:51, 16 June 2024)

Hi --Stupolkk (talk) 19:51, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Stupolkk (19:55, 16 June 2024)

Hi how do I create citation --Stupolkk (talk) 19:55, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Stupolkk: See Help:Referencing for beginners - FlightTime (open channel) 20:01, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from GdLazr (22:12, 14 June 2024)

Hi,

I'd a dev at Lazr.io and I was currently thinking of creating a page about our company in Wikipedia.

I already know that it needs to be FACTUAL, no promo. Is there anything else special to take into consideration to make it live?

Thanks! --GdLazr (talk) 22:12, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

@GdLazr: hi. It's strongly discouraged for you to make a page for your company at all, as you have an inherent conflict of interest. If you do make such an article, you would need sufficient reliable sources to meet WP:CORPDEPTH, a pretty high bar. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:16, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

ok I see. Only very big companies can afford a place on Wikipedia. Thanks! GdLazr (talk) 22:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Is it the same principle if I write an article about a software? An online web application specialized for the transportation industry? Even though it will be FACTURAL without promo? GdLazr (talk) 22:27, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

@GdLazr: it's not about company size, and pages do not cost anything. However, we have high notability standards for companies and products because otherwise we would have articles on tons of completely non-remarkable companies which would be a nightmare to maintain and make Wikipedia pretty much just an advertising platform. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:28, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

ok I understand. You need to filter them out and that's a good thing because that's what make Wikipedia a reliable source of infos. Thanks!

But for a real live product on the net, with real clients and real partners, well established. Would it require as much as a Buiness? I mean, Studies, etc.? GdLazr (talk) 22:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

@GdLazr: the guidelines for notability there are similar, yeah. WP:NPRODUCT explains it. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:35, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

ok thanks! GdLazr (talk) 12:36, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Hanni article moved to main space

I noticed that you moved her article to the main space. Could you share your reasoning behind this decision? Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 23:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

@Btspurplegalaxy: yes. The AFC reviewer indicated that they wanted the article moved to mainspace, so I did it on their behalf. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:44, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 23:51, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Tabeinai (09:19, 17 June 2024)

Hi Ellie, We are a mindfulness brand who is going to launch the business soon. We want to create a page on wikipedia explaining brand ethos and philosophy and most importantly the meaning of its name "Tabeinai" which stems from "Take a breath" and "einai" to be. We are not sure if that is within the listing guidelines of wikipedia --Tabeinai (talk) 09:19, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

@Tabeinai: hi and thanks for reaching out. I recommend not doing so as you have a conflict of interest. However, the guideline to check is going to be WP:NCORP, which in practice is a pretty high bar. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

@Elli Hello and thank you for the advice. Tabeinai (talk) 10:46, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion

What is your suggestion Elli? Should I then nominate those article for AFD as they might not meet WP:GNG. Gabriel (talk to me ) 16:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

@Gabriel601: if you think those articles don't meet GNG, then yes, you should nominate them for deletion. Elli (talk | contribs) 16:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Abu ghazaleh

Why are you editing abu ghazaleh page? Are you a zionist? 51.211.5.214 (talk) 20:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

I protected the page as it's part of the Israel-Palestine topic area, which, due to its contentious nature, is generally restricted to extended confirmed editors. My action there has nothing to do with my opinions on the conflict. Elli (talk | contribs) 20:15, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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GA

Hi Elli, I noticed on your talk page you don't mind doing GANs. Mind taking a look at Talk:General Motors EV1 for GA? Please don't feel obliged. Best, 750h+ 01:43, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Oluwanifemi Precious (10:22, 28 June 2024)

Good morning. I have been getting comments on the sites I use for citations. How can I get better? --Oluwanifemi Precious (talk) 10:22, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi again, I encourage you to read some of our documentation on how this website works. If I were you, I would start with WP:RELIABLE. Dawnseeker2000 18:49, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Na Allah (14:04, 3 July 2024)

Hello Elli,

Is good to be hear. I want to know if i can post the history of my community on this platform.

Thank you. --Na Allah (talk) 14:04, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@Na Allah: depends. Anything you post should be backed by reliable sources. A page would also need to meet our notability guidelines. And if it's a community you're closely involved in, you might have a conflict of interest to worry about. Can you clarify that you're wanting to write here? Elli (talk | contribs) 16:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Amara Patman on User:Amara Patman (07:43, 6 July 2024)

Hello Eli, How do I add a picture to my page? --Amara Patman (talk) 07:43, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Missalex420 (08:48, 7 July 2024)

Hi mentor! lol Today I came across a page that had information that wasn’t correct. It was on the “excess mortality” page and someone referenced an article on a study about the Covid vaccine and excess mortality. The article said there wasn’t a link between the two but whoever wrote on wiki and referenced the article said the study did say there was a link. So I edited the whole thing to say the correct thing but the sentence after it also said somewhat the same kind of stuff. That “German researchers have found a link between the Covid vaccine and excess mortality” but that didn’t have any kind of cited reference. I guess my question in all of this is, I think I saw there’s a way to hi-light certain parts of a page you might find “questionable” to go under review by other people? I don’t know how to do that first off and would that be the right thing to do for the sentence about the “German researchers” with no reference? Instead of just deleting it? If not what would be the right thing to do? I love Wikipedia, been using it for years now and been off and on doing some simple editing (still learning how to do it as you can tell) but when I see misinformation stuff like this it just drives me nuts lol. I also want to edit correctly since I really love wiki! Sorry for my super long msg :) --Missalex420 (talk) 08:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

@Missalex420: hi; thanks for reaching out. You can tag questionable claims with {{dubious}} if you don't feel comfortable with removing them -- but if something is clearly not in line with the sources cited, you should just remove it from the article. Elli (talk | contribs) 13:36, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from PeleYoetz (10:58, 9 July 2024)

Hi, I just created a new article Cuisine of Jerusalem. I think it might be nice for our home page did you know area, who can I consult with about this? --PeleYoetz (talk) 10:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

@PeleYoetz: hi! The instructions to nominate are at WP:DYKNOM; take a look there and let me know if you get stuck? Elli (talk | contribs) 22:26, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Kk durga (09:27, 10 July 2024)

I am a PhD in carnatic classical music (South Indian Classical Music). So I can write, edit articles related to that form of music. Stories related to Ramayana, Mahabharata, and Hinduism are of interest to me. Musician saints and sages of Bharat such as Tyagaraja, Diskshitar, Annamayya , Ramadasa etc.... are of interest to me. --Kk durga (talk) 09:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Nicholas Andronicos on Kazan State University of Culture and Arts (20:42, 10 July 2024)

Hi how are you. Need some help please its my 1st edit :) --Nicholas Andronicos (talk) 20:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Nicholas Andronicos on Kazan State University of Culture and Arts (20:43, 10 July 2024)

Not sure how to add the new link ro Saint Petersberg State Institute... --Nicholas Andronicos (talk) 20:43, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Nicholas Andronicos (02:16, 13 July 2024)

Hi im not sure how to do the highlight blue for example of a persons name so you can click it and go direct to the link --Nicholas Andronicos (talk) 02:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

@Nicholas Andronicos: not sure exactly what you're asking? If you want to make a link, Help:Link has relevant information. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:36, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

thanks. Thats the link im after. Will try it Nicholas Andronicos (talk) 02:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Satish001111 on Lodhi (caste) (15:16, 13 July 2024)

Why are you mentioned wrong thing about lodhi caste kindly give me permission so that I can edit --Satish001111 (talk) 15:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Roundwave54 (03:33, 10 July 2024)

Hi Elli, I hope you are doing well.

I'm looking to set up a page about a UK company, Six Ticks Limited (https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08163992).

The company has recently released a major development in the Blockchain industry, which is showcased here so far: https://www.newbusiness.co.uk/articles/trainingeducation/innovative-technology-removes-transaction-fees-while-offering-robust-secu

Other sources of information that are not from the company website are: https://www.uknewsgroup.co.uk/exclusive-national-hotels-contract-for-six-ticks/ https://www.shropshirebiz.com/five-minutes-with/five-minutes-with-stephanie-henson https://www.severnbusinessnetwork.co.uk/member/profile/six-ticks-limited/ https://www.sme-news.co.uk/winners/six-ticks-ltd/

I'm not sure if these meet the notability criteria or not. Could you please provide some guidance?

Many thanks, Ian --Roundwave54 (talk) 03:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

@Roundwave54: unfortunately I don't think those sources allow that company to meet the notability guidelines. WP:CORPDEPTH is pretty strict and that isn't really established here, nor are all those sources both reliable and independent. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:38, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi Elli,

Thank you for getting back to me.

I understand your points. The press release speaks about quite a significant development in blockchain, validated by Aston University. I think this needs to be on Wikipedia somewhere, so would it be better looking at something like Blockchain itself, rather than a company page?

Thanks, Ian Roundwave54 (talk) 04:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Prntnn (17:24, 16 July 2024)

hello --Prntnn (talk) 17:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Meedhya (19:23, 13 July 2024)

Hi Elli I want to create a wikipedia article about myself. --Meedhya (talk) 19:23, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

(Talk page stalker) Making an autobiograhy is strongly discouraged. Do you think you are notable, and have many sources about yourself? — 48JCL 12:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Troy Brewer Ministries on User:Troy Brewer Ministries (21:04, 17 July 2024)

Does the article I am working on auto save? I only have the option to publish my page and I am still working on it. --Troy Brewer Ministries (talk) 21:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Out of curiosity

Is your username pronounced like "Eli", "Ellie", or something else? Cheers, Queen of Hearts ^talk 04:12, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

@Queen of Hearts: second option. Ellie seemed harder to usurp. Elli (talk | contribs) 04:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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Has it really been five months? That's a wake-up call... Elli (talk | contribs) 01:48, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Arjunvijayanpp on User:Arjunvijayanpp/sandbox (04:26, 22 July 2024)

How can I publish this page? --Arjunvijayanpp (talk) 04:27, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

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Israel-Hamas war timeline

Hi Elli,

As the admin that protected the new timeline page, are you also able to update the link on the main page? Thanks :) Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 16:35, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

@Aydoh8: sure :) Elli (talk | contribs) 16:38, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 16:38, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Redirect target

So, are you going to provide an appropriate target for these 5 redirects? As for being a "valid CSD", this is essentially WP:CSD G8: "Redirects to targets that never existed or were deleted". The relevant section was removed entirely from the article in question and doesn't appear in the main article either. - dcljr (talk) 04:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

@Dcljr: that sounds like a great rationale for a nomination at redirects for discussion, but CSD is pretty strict. These are redirects to a target, and that target hasn't been deleted, it just no longer has a mention of the redirect's title. Deleting them without a discussion would be improper (oftentimes when such redirects are brought to RfD, content is restored to a relevant article or a new target is found). Elli (talk | contribs) 04:28, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Already doing that: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 26#Bionic Bunny. - dcljr (talk) 04:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Catulus900 on Onyeama Francis Okechukwu (19:30, 28 July 2024)

how can I upload my photo on my page --Catulus900 (talk) 19:30, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

@Catulus900: If you have a freely-licensed photo, you can upload it to Wikimedia Commons. However, you have to make sure the photo is available under an appropriate license. Elli (talk | contribs) 04:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from BernadettZul (03:49, 29 July 2024)

Hi Elli can we write short stories here? --BernadettZul (talk) 03:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

@BernadettZul: no; Wikipedia is not a place for personal writings. However, you could write an article about a short story, provided it is notable. Elli (talk | contribs) 04:01, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the block

Hi Elli. Thank you for blocking "I don't know what username to choose so yeah". Just a heads up -- the same editor (or a group of friends in real life, I don't know) keep making the same edit to the same article:

• Special:Contributions/Yepidoo-daw - sock?
• Special:Contributions/80.45.143.130
• Special:Contributions/78.86.161.152
• Special:Contributions/2001:BB6:1E55:9A00:AA4B:70ED:837D:1D04
• Special:Contributions/2A02:2121:62C:6F0:0:0:1A6E:CE60
• Special:Contributions/86.31.186.230

I requested page protection so that is pending. Saw you protected, thanks! Thank you! — That Coptic Guy^{ping me!} (talk) (contribs) 00:40, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

@That Coptic Guy: I didn't block any but the most recent account as Yepidoo-daw technically hasn't violated sockpuppetry policy (assuming that is indeed their first account) and the account only vandalized once; and the IPs haven't hit any other articles, nor do I expect they'll become active again (seems to be an IP-hopper). Thanks for being vigilant here, though :) Elli (talk | contribs) 00:43, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2010 Oklahoma State Question 755

The article 2010 Oklahoma State Question 755 you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:2010 Oklahoma State Question 755 for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Thebiguglyalien -- Thebiguglyalien (talk) 01:42, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi

So I've made over 80 edits after my 500th edit, which i feel are constructive. I've been browsing Wikipedia for 6 or 7 hours and have only left the site briefly a few times. It's taken hours to hit 80 edits because I'm reading random articles on topics I'm not even interested in and sometimes there's nothing to edit. If I don't make it to 200 new constructive edits today, can I still get extended confirmed access back, being on this site for hours and making almost 100 constructive edits, does that prove I'm trustworthy, can I please have my thing back. I didn't know gaming edits for Extended confirmed access broke the rules, one user said I was aware, but I wasn't because I didn't read my talk page a month ago. And I made around 60 unconstructive edits on Jim Cornette to get extended confirmed access, since I have 80 new constructive edits, I think I've made up those 60 edits I used to wrongfully gain extended confirmed edit access HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 11:32, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

btw I accidentally wrote this message on ScottishFinnishRadish's talk page, I meant to send it you you, sorry HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 11:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

What is looking more and more likely is that I'm going to block you indefinitely for falsifying sources and disruptive editing. This souce you added doesn't mention anything from that paragraph. This source doesn't mention Run DMC or Faces. This and this add puffery that could have been created by a LLM. There's this edit that makes the prose objectively worse and leaves in the obvious false statement, and this ECR violation. This adds content not supported by the source and this is not an improvement. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

With the Rucka Rucka Ali thing, I was trying to be fair to the Palestinians because the state of Israel and Palestine both claim Jerusalem as their capital city. As a person who's Jewish myself, I love everyone it doesn't matter if you're Arab, Jewish, Black, white, etc. my name is HumansRightsIsCool because I believe everyone is equal, I didn't know i broke a rule, there's so many rules on this site im sorry I'm bad at memorizing and reading everything. Also it is sourced that El Chapo was charged with murder, just scroll down on that page it says he was charged with murder in 1993, thats why I added it to the lead. And I don't know what an LLM is, but you're saying this thing called an LLM wrote stuff, I don't even know what that is and I've been writing stuff by myself all night. I have no friends helping me. Also you claim I'm falsifying sources,I only read the headline of the sources, I'm so tired I stayed up all night and I just assumed the sources were good so I can get back to editing because I'm extremely desperate to get extended confirmed access back. Notice how their was hardly any problems and barely any warnings before you took away my extended confirmed thing, I really wanna edit things I'm passionate about, but I can't because most pages I'm interested in require extended confirmed access. Please don't block me, I at least spent 7 hours trying to make good edits, hopefully that shows how dedicated I am to this website. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 12:40, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Also you claim my edit about University of Greifswald was false when I said there's centuries of notable people that want to that school. There is, the article already says "generations of notable people", but the schools been around since the 1400s, like over 600 years it seems, so that's why I put centuries instead of generations since I thought it also sounded cooler and more relevant. Sorry I messed up apparently. And the puffery, I didn't mean to add puffery, it wasn't my intention. It won't happen again sir, it only happened a few times thankfully, and I'll be sure not to make that mistake again. I forgot not to be biased, I was rushing some stuff because I'm desperate to get that extended confirmed thing today. If I wait for a month, I'm going to be bothered about it 24/7 the whole time. And you only complained about 6 edits I made out of 80 new ones, so yeah see most my edits there's not a problem with it, can I be trusted now. And before I hit 500 edits, most people didn't have a problem with the 400 edits I made, there was only like 2 warnings in 2 months. I'm here to build an encyclopedia and dedicated to this site. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 12:54, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Also why do you wanna block me indefinitely because I made few mistakes. You also when you didn't read my edit summary on El Chapo and thought I added unsourced info when it was sourced, everyone make mistakes, and the edits you did complain about, i only made a few mistakes out of like 90 new edits in 7 hours. I made good edits on Communism and LGBT rights, Sinners (2007 film), Tupac Shakur, Grandparent, and so many other pages, and a few editors even pressed the "thanks" button on my edits. And I promise these mistakes won't happen again, and me editing for 7 hours non-stop not going to sleep tonight not going to work, that should show I'm extremely dedicated to this website and you can trust me with extended confirmed status. When I first got extended confirmed status my edits on Hamas I think were constructive too. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 13:14, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

@HumansRightsIsCool: I might not have communicated clearly enough: please do not rush on this. I'm going to be honest with you, the sort of edits you've made aren't a good indicator that you would be able to edit constructively in these topic areas.

You need to slow down significantly and gain a better understanding of our policies and guidelines. I get that you're here in good faith, and want to contribute to the site, but I don't think you would do well editing extended-confirmed topic areas currently. You could easily end up topic-banned, which is much harder to appeal compared to applying for extended-confirmed. I'm not going to give you a clear number of edits to make, or a clear time to wait, because if I do that it seems like you will try to game it, defeating the point. But it's going to take longer than a few days for you to get there. Elli (talk | contribs) 13:21, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

You're making edits like He was considered to be one of the most powerful drug traffickers and murderers in the world. Most powerful murderers in the world? Based on a source that says in 2016 quietly dropped murder charges from the indictment and a second that doesn't mention murder? You left in teaching existed since 1436 when copyediting, a statement that makes no sense in or out of context. Rushing to get edits is not the right way to do this, and regaining extended-confirmed isn't a matter of numbers, it's a matter of demonstrating that you understand how to contribute constructively and properly use sources, not take a glance at a headline and assume it will suffice. That is behavior that we block editors for. As far as your other edits, I haven't looked at all of them. I haven't even looked at all of your edits after I removed your permission, but almost everything I checked was not an improvement, or was clearly incorrect. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:32, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

@Elli if I wait a few days, that's going to be painful mentally, I bet it's going to bother me all day long 24/7. and out of the 80-90 edits I made, there was only problems with a few of them, most of my edits were constructive and some users thanked me for my edits. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 13:41, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

@ScottishFinnishRadish oh, didn't know know they dropped murder charges for El Chapo, i didn't see that part, I only read the paragraph where it says he got charged with murder. You know since I do make a few mistakes and I need to study Wikipedia rules a little more, I guess I can wait a few days to get extended confirmed access, but can you please put my edits back on Hamas so it won't hurt as bad mentally, if you add back my edits on Hamas I'll be really happy and satisfied HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 13:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Iblethebible (13:26, 30 July 2024)

Hi i've made an article which is accurate and i believe it to be worthy of wikipedia. There is a bbc citation which is obviously very reliable how do i upload it please --Iblethebible (talk) 13:26, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from EcoFlux (11:22, 4 August 2024)

Are u Ai assistant??! --EcoFlux (talk) 11:22, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Nope. I'm a real person. Elli (talk | contribs) 12:43, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Sur" 777 on Coloureds (12:44, 4 August 2024)

Can you help me --Sur" 777 (talk) 12:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Champion Doctor Thompson (22:18, 5 August 2024)

Hello, Sir. I am new to editing. Can I get any advice? --Champion Doctor Thompson (talk) 22:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Himanshuy1 (02:33, 6 August 2024)

I want to write new articles. --Himanshuy1 (talk) 02:33, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

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Templates

Hi, I had someone from the foundation who wanted to talk to me about template parsing and I feel like you'd have a more interesting perspective than I do here. Courtesy ping to cscott. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:29, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Ooh, yes, happy to discuss :) Elli (talk | contribs) 16:31, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm trying to get @Clovermoss to complain about ways that templates are broken so I can maybe fix them, but she keeps saying you know/complain about templates best. C. Scott Ananian (talk) 16:55, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Huh -- I do work with templates a decent amount but I haven't ran into any issues with how they've been implemented recently -- I do remember having some frustrations a few years ago but sadly I can't really remember what the problems were. If you have more specific questions you want my thoughts on though I'm happy to share. Elli (talk | contribs) 16:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Well that's good news I guess from my perspective. I work on the wikitext parsing team so I know all sorts of wikitext ugliness but it's useful to get a reality check from time to time to figure out what things are causing the most pain in practice. Feel free to ping me if you turn up any critters you want investigated or squashed. C. Scott Ananian (talk) 17:19, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

@Cscott: Well Elli really does know infinitely more about templates than me. I'm glad to hear she doesn't have anything to complain about. I suppose my other suggestion would be to start a new thread over at Wikipedia:Village pump (WMF) as that's a slightly more centralized place. Introduce yourself, let people know about the work you do and how you're willing to listen and improve things :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:54, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

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Kerala Premier League

Hello, you protected this article, so how could Haseebchonari edit it? I don't understand. Jonteemil (talk) 17:54, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jonteemil: the article is only semi-protected, and their account is autoconfirmed, which allowed them to edit it. Elli (talk | contribs) 14:01, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Hmm, how can they be autoconfirmed after only 22 edits? Are they really? Jonteemil (talk) 14:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jonteemil: autoconfirmed only requires 10 edits. Elli (talk | contribs) 15:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Oh I see, can you set a protection that requires more than just 10 edits? Jonteemil (talk) 13:34, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jonteemil: yes, that's possible; you can request it at WP:RFPP if you think it's necessary. Elli (talk | contribs) 14:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Imannie2030 on Heartland Alliance (21:25, 17 August 2024)

Could you please provide information on your programs and services? I'd appreciate guidance on the process and any requirements for seeking help? --Imannie2030 (talk) 21:25, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

@Imannie2030: hi. I'm an editor at Wikipedia; I'm not associated with Heartland Alliance so I can't help you with any of their programs or services. Sorry. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:37, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Kartal Alışık (05:58, 18 August 2024)

New --Kartal Alışık (talk) 05:58, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Buhle Olerato on Help:Getting started (10:13, 18 August 2024)

👋 hey.how will I create my own video --Buhle Olerato (talk) 10:13, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from WikiPedian0036 (01:01, 21 August 2024)

Hi, Elli! How do I make a citation? --WikiPedian0036 (talk) 01:01, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @WikiPedian0036: Help:Referencing for beginners offers guidance on how to make a citation. Left guide (talk) 02:18, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Question from Jimbillc on Santa Monica High School (06:20, 25 August 2024)

Hi Elli, I want to add 2 notable alumni to Santa Monica High School who both have their own Wikipedia pages. I also want to add a 3rd person who I am not sure actually graduated, but I know was still attending the Santa Monica High School in the 11th grade. He is a major skateboarder legend who also his own Wikipedia page. Can you please tell me how to add them ? Thanks --Jimbillc (talk) 06:20, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jimbillc: you should be able to click the "edit" link next to the section and add them to the list. Be sure to add references to reliable sources to demonstrate that they did go to the high school. Can you please explain what in particular you need help with doing? Elli (talk | contribs) 06:30, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Elli, I went to Santa Monica High School when all 3 were there and personally knew 2 of the 3. I played on the same football team as Dennis Thurman who went on to an NFL career with the Dallas Cowboys and hung out and skated with Tony Alva a lot. I didn’t know Dennis Smith although he may remember me. He was an All Pro football player with the Denver Broncos. Am I considered to be a reliable source ? 2600:1010:A010:F2C0:D4E0:2296:1D33:8454 (talk) 06:53, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

No; you cannot cite your own experiences or knowledge as that is considered original research and is impossible for other readers to verify. Elli (talk | contribs) 06:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Well, what about the Wikipedia pages for the 2 football players? Can that be my reliable source ? Both pages state that they went to Santa Monica High School 2600:1010:A010:F2C0:D4E0:2296:1D33:8454 (talk) 07:23, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

No, but those pages likely do contain a source for that statement that you can cite. Elli (talk | contribs) 17:39, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey

Can I have my extended confirmed thing back now. I made lots of edits the last 25 days and I think 99% of them are constructive. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 23:02, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

@HumansRightsIsCool: given some of the recent situations you've been involved in (e.g. Talk:Americans#The current situation (pl)), I don't really think you should be editing in contentious topics at this point. You've been pretty close to getting blocked recently -- this sort of behavior would almost certainly get you blocked and/or topic-banned if you're editing about Israel and Palestine. You can request this back at WP:PERM though, but I do not recommend it. Elli (talk | contribs) 18:56, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

I already resolved the "Americans" issue on the talk page before starting a edit war, and I can't edit Israel or Palestine topics, even if I wanted to, because all of them are locked. Since you don't recommend me going to WP:PERM rn, when do you recommend it, when I get more skilled at editing in a few months? HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 18:59, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

@HumansRightsIsCool: just keep editing about less controversial topics. Add well-sources content to articles, avoid getting dragged into disputes, etc. Even just a month of more experience would probably be fine, but you need to prove you have the right attitude to work in these controversial areas, and I'm not seeing that. Elli (talk | contribs) 19:05, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

got it. I'll avoid content disputes and fights, and most of my reverts will try and combat vandalism and try to be respectful to every user, even if they start the fight. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 19:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

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The Meg

When the page lock expired the persistent vandal returned and again deleted "China" from the Infobox with no explanation.(diff) (The film is quite clearly a Chinese co-production as explained in the Production section.)

I don't want the article to be locked but I fear it is unfortunately necessary. (My personal preference would be for you to allow flagged edits or to range block the IP where this vandalism is coming from or both.) Please reapply the lock. -- 109.79.168.9 (talk) 19:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 August newsletter

The fourth round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 29 August. Each of the 8 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 472 points, and the following contestants scored more than 700 points:

• Generalissima (submissions) with 1,150 points, mostly from 3 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 7 good articles, and 13 did you know nominations;
• Arconning (submissions) with 791 points, mostly from 2 featured lists, 8 good articles, 4 did you know nominations, and plenty of reviews;
• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions) with 718 points, mostly from a high-multiplier featured article on Genghis Khan and 2 good articles; and
• BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 714 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Susanna Hoffs, 2 featured lists, and 3 good articles.

Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated. Contestants put in extraordinary amounts of effort during this round, and their scores can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 36 featured articles, 55 featured lists, 15 good articles, 93 in the news credits, and at least 333 did you know credits. They have conducted 357 featured content reviews, as well as 553 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 30 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Any content promoted after 29 August but before the start of Round 5 can be claimed during Round 5, which starts on 1 September at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. If two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Remember to claim your points within 14 days of earning them, and importantly, before the deadline on 31 October.

If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please see this page. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

CCI update

Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/No barometer of intelligence is now complete. Thank you for your assistance in the evaluation of this CCI!

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