Wikidata:Property proposal/COBISS ID

‎COBISS.SI ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Not done

Description	co-operative bnline bibliographic system and services identifier
Represents	COBISS.net (Q5013258)
Data type	External identifier
Example 1	Slovene nomenclature of birds of the Western Palearctic (Q124673140)COBISS ID69621
Example 2	United Slovenia (Q1585354)COBISS ID269294592
Example 3	Hamlet (Q41567)COBISS ID3467099
Example 4	Ljubljana (Q437)COBISS ID18846464
Source	https://www.cobiss.si
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Formatter URL	https://plus.cobiss.net/cobiss/si/en/bib/$1
Single-value constraint	no
Distinct-values constraint	yes

Motivation

This is the ID of publications as recorded by the Slovenian library information system COBISS. --TadejM (talk) 17:24, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

— Yerpo ^Eh? 17:01, 24 September 2016 (UTC) — Pinky sl (talk) 11:37, 25 September 2016 (UTC) — Sporti --Sporti (talk) 09:21, 17 February 2017 (UTC) — A09090091 --A09090091 (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC) — Miha Peče (talk) 5:38, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject Slovenia Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 13:06, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

•  Comment @TadejM: Hi - can you fix your examples? On the left should be a Wikidata item. The id's are then on the right side of the example statements. See other recent property proposals. ArthurPSmith (talk) 20:44, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi. Done. --TadejM (talk) 20:48, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

ArthurPSmith, updated the proposal. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 04:22, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi. Examples are really off. The first one, Imenik ptic zahodne Palearktike, is ok, but all others not. One good example could be Slovenski etnološki leksikon, which has COBISS ID 215529984. Miha Peče (talk) 13:32, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Hmm, not sure on the examples - Hamlet's wikidata item is about the work in general, but the COBISS ID refers to a Slovenian translation it looks like? ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:39, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

@ArthurPSmith:, COBISS ID referred to the same item which translated into Slovenian. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 19:37, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

• {{Not done}}, no support for creation. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 13:27, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

  reopened per request. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 13:06, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

In Slovenia, the COBISS system is used to uniquely identify each specific version or edition of a book through an identifier known as a COBISS ID. Each version of the book, whether it be the print version, electronic version, a reprint in the same language, or translations into different languages, can have its own unique COBISS ID. This system ensures that every distinct version of a book can be tracked and accessed separately in the library database. So, indeed, each COBISS ID belongs to one specific version or edition of a book, helping librarians and readers access the exact version they need. This differentiation is particularly useful for academic, historical, and literary research where the specifics of a publication—such as its edition, year of publication, and language—can be crucial.

• Unique Identification: Each COBISS ID uniquely identifies a specific version or edition of a book. Including this ID in Wikidata can enhance the data accuracy and specificity, allowing users to link directly to a particular edition or translation.
• Multiple IDs for One Title: Since a book can have multiple COBISS IDs (representing different editions, translations, or formats), deciding which ID to include can be challenging. Including multiple IDs for different versions might require a more complex data structure or additional qualifiers in Wikidata.
• Dynamic Data: COBISS IDs are specific to editions and are subject to change as new editions are published. Keeping Wikidata entries up-to-date with all current editions could require ongoing maintenance

To effectively include COBISS IDs in Wikidata, you could:

• Use qualifiers to distinguish between different editions, translations, and formats associated with the same work.

Overall, including COBISS IDs in Wikidata can be a smart strategy for enhancing bibliographic data, especially for users in regions where COBISS is a standard tool in academic and public libraries. However, it's important to plan the structure and maintenance of these entries to maximize their utility and accuracy.--Pinky sl (talk) 13:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you a lot for the info. As a single work can have more than one COBISS ID, it seems best to be able to cite all the COBISS IDs of a work under the same property unless there are separate items for individual versions. For this reason, 'single value constraint' should be 'no'. I have updated the request accordingly. 'Edition' (edition or translation of (P629)) and 'format' (form of creative work (P7937)) should be optional qualifiers (provided if this information exists) and 'language of work' (language of work or name (P407)) should be a mandatory qualifier (unless it is explicitly not possible to define it). What else would you propose to be done? --TadejM (talk) 15:08, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

•  Not done, not created per lack of support. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 07:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)