User talk:Florentyna

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Unverbundene Seiten

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Hallo Florentyna, vielen Dank für das Anlegen und Verbinden von neuen Artikeln der deutschsprachigen Wikipedia. Weitere unverbunden Seiten finden sich unter

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Siehe auch de:Benutzer:M2k~dewiki/FAQ M2k~dewiki (talk) 10:03, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Da hast du ja ganz schön was gesammelt... Florentyna (talk) 10:18, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Q27119655

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Would you be willing to reconsider reverting my edit? I'm very inclined to believe that Hew (the badminton player) and Hew (the Rhodes Scholar) are the same person:

  • The NewspaperArchive hits for "Ernest Hew" in the Kingston Gleaner (free with the Wikipedia Library), plentiful until then, abruptly drop after June 1964, shortly before Hew (the Rhodes Scholar) would have gone to Oxford and [1] says that "Hew [the badminton player] [was] off the island [in 1967]".
  • [2] says that Hew (the Rhodes Scholar) had a badminton half-blue while at OU.
  • [3] says that Hew was "Captain of the University Badminton Club, c/o University Hospital".
  • Hew (the Rhodes Scholar) had a lawn tennis (similar to badminton) career: [4] says that he in 1958 "was then Under 19 [Lawn Tennis] champion of Jamaica" (narrowing his birth date after 1938) and [5] says that Hew was "Jamaica's 1963 Rhodes Scholar" and runner-up to the 1963 All Jamaica Lawn Tennis Championships.

ミラP@Miraclepine 16:32, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This information you did not provide before, so it can be, that this is the Jamaican guy. Some more Ernest Hew are spreading around - a sculptor (too young) and an anaesthesist. Florentyna (talk) 17:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'll update the item accordingly. And yes, I'm pretty sure said anaesthesist is the badminton player given this source. ミラP@Miraclepine 23:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category names

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What do you mean by "source for this statement"? Solidest (talk) 15:28, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You wrote: WD engine does not allow to enter identical names for categories. Such a name can refer to a racing tournament, so it is better to specify both of them with brackets. I never heard this. Where did you find this statement? --Florentyna (talk) 15:31, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You can try to set two categories to have the same names + the same descriptions in the same language. The engine will not allow you to do this and will give you an error. Because in fact on any wiki it is also impossible to create categories with the same name. And this mechanism is used to track duplicates on WD due to that. And that's why "Wikimedia category" is filled into English descriptions everywhere. And the fact that you use custom titles for the badminaton sphere - just contradicts this approach and functionality and is not done anywhere on wikidata except for badminton categories, and so it's problematic. Solidest (talk) 15:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is not any wiki, this is Wikidata and very different, and very much POV. Where is the source for your approach? --Florentyna (talk) 15:46, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that, but you don't seem to realize that Wikimedia category (Q4167836) describes pages on other wikis and not real-world concepts like other items with free labels could be. Where is the source for the approach that allows you to set labels for p31=Wikimedia category (Q4167836) items constantly and deliberately that don't match the exact labels of the entities these Qitems describe - wiki categories? A Wikiproject category is not a Wikidata entity, but Wikidata describes them. They have specific labels. Just as you can't change the name of a book or a taxon, you shouldn't change the names of fixed wiki pages until change the actual name of it. Categories are not free concepts that exist outside of wikiprojects, allowing for flexible titles. Without links to categories in wikiprojects, these items shouldn't be created on Wikidata. Even entities with only links to commons are not allowed on Wikidata. These items should be characterized by their actual titles first, not by anything you come up with, except for a few cases where errors are obvious or also such cases where you have to assume that both categories may soexist on wikipedia or commons. It's just a logical approach. And what justifies your approach? Solidest (talk) 16:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The simple question was, where you got your statement WD engine does not allow to enter identical names for categories. A link where you found it is sufficient. No long texts needed. --Florentyna (talk) 16:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can try to set two categories to have the same names + the same descriptions in the same language. The engine will not allow you to do this and will give you an error.
Do you need any clarification for this answer? Solidest (talk) 16:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, where is this stated here on Wikidata? I do not need your personal meaning, but a Wikidata rule, to apply this rule in the future. --Florentyna (talk) 16:24, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you don't want me to look up mediawiki/wikibase documentation for you, but the wikidata help has such lines here too:
But note that for other client wiki namespaces like "Category" and "Template" the labels should be identical to sitelinks (the disambiguation parts shouldn't be removed), as these types of pages usually have only one common type of descriptions and there may occur API errors of non-unique pair consisting of label + description when trying to set descriptions to other items. Solidest (talk) 16:36, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot believe that this is agreed by the community, it was added without discussion, source and explanation by a currently not more active user. Very suspicious. This should be reverted or at least discussed. --Florentyna (talk) 16:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need the community agreement with the way the site has been technically implemented for many years (and that is generally the norm for such databases or any wikis). There is nothing suspicious about this norm and the rules should not be reverted. These lines simply come from the obvious way of things, which for some reason is not clear or obvious to you - I remind you that what you are doing with categories about badminton - nobody else on wikidata is doing anywhere else (on a massive scale). But you can indeed start a discussion to change that norm. I doubt that technically it will be implemented (knowing the practice of implementing such changes), but at least you can listen to other people's opinions about it. Solidest (talk) 17:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I won't be undoing the edits on the tournament, but I also won't filter badminton topics anymore in the next mass edits of titles (I'm gradually cleaning up duplicates). So I suggest you rename the categories on enwiki and commons first, and leave the category labels on WD to the bots. Solidest (talk) 17:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pavel Popov (Q111493559) and Yury Stepanov (Q111506935) Chuvash enc id

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There was no reason for reverting my valid edits. Both pairs have the same last name + first name, same birthdate, occupation in badminton, musculoskeletal impairments, region of origin. If chuvash encyclopedia temporarily doesn't work, here are archived articles: СТЕПАНОВ Юрий ПОПОВ Павел Podbrushkin (talk) 08:06, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image of Henderson

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Hello Can you tell me why did you reverted my edit? Because I am quite sure that this is not image of Marje Henderson. PMG (talk) 13:46, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is correct, that you removed "depicts" on Commons, but here it is correct because it is an image about MH. --Florentyna (talk) 13:49, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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