User talk:Ыфь77

removal of metropolis (Q427961) instance

Hi there, I noticed that you removed the instance metropolis (Q427961) from the item Metropolis of Gortyna and Megalopoli (Q15092233). Why did you do that?
I know most of the items of the metropolis of church of Greece have the instance Eastern Orthodox eparchy (Q60176300), which is erroneous for current term-related reasons.--Jimkats (talk) 18:07, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

• Сравните настоящие митрополии (например, Metropolitanate of Nizhny Novgorod (Q4318629) и Metropolis of Moldavia and Bukovina (Q3245435)) и митрополии Константинопольской ПЦ <Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople (Q211004)> и Элладской ПЦ <Church of Greece (Q59778)>, ту же Metropolis of Gortyna and Megalopoli (Q15092233). Последние — обычные епархии (причём довольно мелкие), руководителям которых по историческим причинам присвоили титул митрополита <metropolitan (Q189854)>, но других признаков митрополий у них нет. google translation: Compare the real metropolitans (for example, Metropolitanate of Nizhny Novgorod (Q4318629) and Metropolis of Moldavia and Bukovina (Q3245435)) and the metropolitans of Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople <Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople (Q211004)> and Church of Greece <Church of Greece (Q59778)>, the same Metropolis of Gortyna and Megalopoli (Q15092233). The latter are ordinary dioceses (and rather small ones), whose leaders have been given the title of metropolitan for historical reasons <metropolitan (Q189854)>, but they have no other signs of metropolitans. --Ыфь77 (talk) 18:28, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Many problematic metaclasses

Hi I notice many of the metaclasses that you have created that are parent classes of fruticulture of an area are subclass of of normal classes. Metaclasses should only be subclasses of other metaclasses. Are you okay if I delete many of these incorrect statements? Lectrician1 (talk) 10:34, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

• No. --Ыфь77 (talk) 10:37, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
  • So are you going to fix them? Lectrician1 (talk) 10:38, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
    • Нет, они правильные, но отменять Ваши правки не буду. Translation: No, they are correct, but I will not undo your edits. --Ыфь77 (talk) 10:41, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
    • Q12280169, Q12866777, Q30923713 — exactly metaclasses. --Ыфь77 (talk) 10:44, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

      fruticulture is not a metaclass

      horticulture is not a metaclass

      agriculture is not a metaclass

      These are all subclass of (P279) you have added to the metaclasses. Lectrician1 (talk) 10:46, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

      • Q105897950 — метакласс, его подклассы являются метаклассами. Translation: Q105897950 — is a metaclass, its subclasses are metaclasses. --Ыфь77 (talk) 10:50, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

        Yes, but what I'm saying is that agriculture by country or territory should not have subclass of (P279)agriculture (Q11451). All the values of subclass of (P279) on agriculture by country or territory must be metaclasses. agriculture is not a metaclass. Lectrician1 (talk) 10:53, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

        • Я не знаю, как по другому показать зависимость agriculture by country or territory от agriculture, а она должна быть! Translation: I do not know how else to show the dependence of agriculture by country or territory on agriculture, but it should be! --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:03, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

          That's what is metaclass for is for :) Lectrician1 (talk) 11:10, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

          • Ok. --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:12, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Lectrician1, [1] так правильно? Translation: is that right? --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:17, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

@Lectrician1:↑ --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:20, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes! Thank you! Lectrician1 (talk) 11:22, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Вам спасибо, я просто не знал, как сделать правильно. В течение этого дня переделаю все остальные метаклассы. Translation: Thank you, I just didn't know how to do it right. During this day I will redo all the other metaclasses. --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:24, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Сделано / Done. --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:46, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

April 2023

Greetings, you are currently involved in an edit war regarding a content dispute. This is against policy. Please do not edit-war even if you believe that you are right. I have started a discussion on the Talk Page, where you can build consensus for your change. Further engagement in edit-wars will result in reports to administrators and sanctions on your account such as blocking. Elizium23 (talk) 13:32, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Приветствую, в настоящее время вы участвуете в войне правок по поводу спора о содержании. Это против политики. Пожалуйста, не редактируйте, даже если вы считаете, что правы. Я начал дискуссию на странице обсуждения, где вы можете достичь консенсуса в отношении ваших изменений. Дальнейшее участие в войнах редактирования приведет к отчетам администраторам и санкциям в отношении вашей учетной записи, таким как блокировка. Elizium23 (talk) 13:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Надо было сразу переходить на страницу обсуждения, а не участвовать в войне правок. Не забывайте, что термины в разных языках имеют разное значение. --Ыфь77 (talk) 14:10, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Удаление P971

Что означают Ваши удаления из «категория:Культура города» category combines topics (P971) «культура страны/государства» местонахождения города?--VitalRyabchuk (talk) 20:13, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

• Тем, что местонахождение для города — зачастую дублирующее и ненужное свойство. Для тех городов, которые представляют из себя АТЕ (например, коммуны Италии, города федерального или любого другого значения в РФ), географическое положение однозначно задаётся свойством АТЕ (located in the administrative territorial entity). --Ыфь77 (talk) 20:22, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
• Сорри, не разобрался, что о категории речь: тем, что сам город однозначно себя позиционирует. Т. е. Категория:Культура города есть множество, равное пересечению классов культура и город (у нас пересечение множеств почему-то названо объединением). Если требуется Категория:Культура страны по городам, то там пересечение 3 классов: культуры, страны и модификатора "по городам". --Ыфь77 (talk) 20:29, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

  Ссылка на элемент Культура территории может быть только у элемента-подкласса либо однозначная связь: страница "Культура n-ной территории" и "Категория:Культура n-ной территории". Во всех остальных случаях ссылка дублирует информацию и не нужна. Ыфь77 (talk) 20:35, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

I have a question

May I ask, why do the descriptions start with a lowercase letter? Explosion^💥 08:37, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Потому что это не имена собственные и не грамматические предложения и по правилам языков, в которых я исправлял, должны быть со строчной буквы. Сравните: культура Бахрейна — культура = имя нарицательное, Бахрейн = имя собственное. Google translation: Because these are not proper names or grammatical sentences, and according to the rules of the languages in which I corrected, they should be with a lowercase letter. Compare: culture of Bahrain — culture = common name, Bahrain = proper name. --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:49, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Duplicates

Please refrain from playing with Iranian categories and do NOT create unnecessary duplicates. --Orijentolog (talk) 18:24, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

• @Orijentolog: Вы смешали архитектурный стиль (персидская архитектура) и архитектуру территории (архитектура Ирана) — разные понятия, Аллах Вам судья, буду считать, что разбираетесь в том, что сделали. Online translation: You have mixed the architectural style (Persian architecture) and the architecture of the territory (architecture of Iran) — different concepts, Allah is your judge, I will assume that you understand what you have done. --Ыфь77 (talk) 10:17, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

To call Iranian (Persian) architecture as a "style" is vague, as same as with Italian architecture. Both are something much huger. I don't understand where did you get idea that these are "two different concepts", and I didn't see any similar example with separated items (like: Spanish architecture & architecture in Spain). --Orijentolog (talk) 10:24, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Category:Churches of the Russian Orthodox Church

Hi, I don't understand why you have separated "Category:Churches of the Russian Orthodox Church" (Q8283870) from "Category:Russian Orthodox churches" (Q15301185).

In enwiki we have en:Category:Russian Orthodox church buildings for all of Russian Orthodoxy, including e.g. ROCOR & Old Believers. Is "Category:Churches of the Russian Orthodox Church" intended to exclude ROCOR & Old Believers churches, or what? Fayenatic london (talk) 20:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Briefly: Category:Russian Orthodox churches = Category:Churches of the Russian Orthodox Church + Category:Russian Old Believers churches + Category:Churches of the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad (Agathangelos) + ... + Category:Churches of the Russian Orthodox Church <other>. --Ыфь77 (talk) 21:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

В Category:Russian Orthodox church buildings (Q8283870) должны быть православные храмы в юрисдикции Russian Orthodox Church (Q60995), в Category:Russian Orthodox churches (Q15301185) - русские православные храмы любой юрисдикции. Online translation: Category:Russian Orthodox church buildings (Q8283870) should have Orthodox churches in the jurisdiction of Russian Orthodox Church (Q60995), in Category:Russian Orthodox churches (Q15301185) - Russian Orthodox churches of any jurisdiction. Ыфь77 (talk) 21:14, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Most of ROCOR has been a division of the Russian Orthodox Church since 2007. Ыфь77 (talk) 21:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Part of a composite state

@Hjart: @Romaine: Здравствуйте. Предлагаю компромисс в свойстве P17 <государство>: указывать в нём часть составного государства (Фарерские острова, Аруба и т. д.), но с обязательным квалификатором P361 <является частью>, где указывать составное государство (Датское королевство, королевство Нидерландов). Согласны? Online transmission: Hello. I propose a compromise in the P17 property <country>: to indicate part of the composite state (Faroe Islands, Aruba, etc.), but with the obligatory qualifier P361 <part of>, where to indicate the composite state (Danish kingdom, the Kingdom of the Netherlands). Agree? Ыфь77 (talk) 13:10, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

I haven't looked at other areas, but for Aruba, Curaçao, Sint Maarten and the Netherlands the situation is clear: each of these four are a separate country, while they are all part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands. In some way you can say that there is not just one layer of countries like in most of the world, but two layers. The general rule is that we need to be as specific as possible. This means that on only the items of each of these countries, I would indicate as P17 Kingdom of the Netherlands, in all other cases we need to be specific as possible and thus use Aruba, Curaçao, Sint Maarten and the Netherlands as country with P17. Because on each of the four countries it is already indicated to be part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, it is not needed to indicate it everywhere again where one of these four countries is added as P17. Romaine (talk) 13:21, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Ни одна из частей Королевства Нидерландов, кроме самих Нидерландов, не признана ООН и другими международными организациями, поэтому указывать надуровень обязательно надо. Хотя бы в элементах, где территория уровня государства. Ниже - не надо. Online transmission: None of the parts of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, except the Netherlands itself, is recognized by the UN and other international organizations, so it is necessary to specify the superlevel. At least in the elements where the territory is at the state level. Lower - don't. Ыфь77 (talk) 18:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Recognition does not seem a proper reason, Taiwan isn't recognised and we still see it as an independent country. Because the items of Aruba, Curaçao, Sint Maarten and the Netherlands each have as P17 Kingdom of the Netherlands, it is not needed to specify being part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands elsewhere. Romaine (talk) 20:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

1) Тайвань был членом ООН, а части Королевства Нидерландов (кроме самих Нидерландов) - не были. 2) Тайвань де-факто является независимым государством и признан 12 членами ООН, а кто признал независимыми государствами Арубу, Курасао и Синт-Мартин? Online transmission: 1) Taiwan was a member of the United Nations, but parts of the Kingdom of the Netherlands (except the Netherlands itself) were not. 2) Taiwan is a de facto independent state and recognized by 12 UN members, and who recognized Aruba, Curacao and Sint Martin as independent states? Ыфь77 (talk) 12:32, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Why delete cy info?

Hi there, I'm unsure why you deleted this info? Cheers! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 05:39, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Потому что Земля меньше Мира. Например: МКС не находится на Земле, а культура на ней есть. Online translation: Because the Earth is smaller than the World. For example: The ISS is not on Earth, but there is culture on it. --Ыфь77 (talk) 11:37, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

reverting the data

Hi. I am an editor from Armenian Wikipedia, and I have provided the correct information, which was reverted by you. Armenian catholic eparchies were defined differently, as Eastern Catholic eparchy, Armenian catholic eparcy and so on, the same about religion and overview, and "part of" divisions. At the moment of your revertion they were correctly changed. Please clarify the reason of revertion. Խմբագրող (talk) 08:06, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Online translation: Because you are wrong. More details later. Ыфь77 (talk) 08:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I will be waiting for your clarifications, as the changes are not random and I am not a new person here. Խմբագրող (talk) 08:10, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

1. instance of (P31) не может быть Armenian Catholic Ecclesiastical province of Cilicia (Q10882902)!
2. Armenian Catholic Patriarchate of Cilicia (Q388986) - это обычная архиепархия-митрополия, входящая в Armenian Catholic Ecclesiastical province of Cilicia (Q10882902), источник: [2]. - неверно, это центральный католикосат, и под католикосатом действуют епархии
3. Armenian Catholic Church (Q64842) состоит из Armenian Catholic Ecclesiastical province of Cilicia (Q10882902) и независимых епархий. - неверно, это общее название церкви, как и армянская апостольская церковь. католическая имеет один канонический престол, апостольская - четыре. Этот канонический престол указан выше, как центральный католикосат, и под католикосатом действуют епархии

Online translation: UPD: удалён, так как оба владеем русским. Ыфь77 (talk) 08:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

ответил --Խմբագրող (talk) 08:27, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Извините, что начинаю с частных претензий: Вас не учили, что изменять чужие реплики недопустимо? Я специально ввёл пункты, чтобы ответы можно было пронумеровать. 2-3) Источник, что не все епархии Армянской католической церкви управляются непосредственно патриархом: [3]. Сравните количество подразделений в этом списке и количество подразделений-суффраганов на странице патриархата. Остальной диалог через час. Ыфь77 (talk) 08:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

@Խմբագրող: Давайте начнём с начала. 0) Вы не будете отрицать, что элементы Викиданных пишутся по источникам, а лучшего источника, чем официальный сайт иерархии католической церкви не найти? 3) Согласно этому сайту, различают подразделения АКЦ [4] и подразделения, непосредственно подчиняющиеся патриарху [5]. 2) Согласно определения из Кодекса канонического права 1983 г., архиепархия-митрополия и суффраганные епархии (и другие подразделения) образуют церковную провинцию. Именно это я подразумевал в элементе Armenian Catholic Ecclesiastical province of Cilicia (Q10882902). Сравните апостольский экзархат АКЦ [6] и патриарший экзархат АКЦ [7], строка Metropolitan. Возможно название неудачное, но надо же как-то разделить сам патриархат и провинцию, в которую он входит. 2а) Действовал я по аналогии с латинскими церковными провинциями: провинция Q3408460, архиепархия-митрополия Q1242250, страница. --Ыфь77 (talk) 09:10, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Sufism in al-Andalus

Hi. Why did you de-link Sufismo en España from its English article? Baal Nautes (talk) 18:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Al Ándalus ≠ España. Ыфь77 (talk) 18:51, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

You're right, there was no Sufism in Spain. I just renamed Sufismo en España to Sufismo in al-Ándalus. You can undo the de-link. Baal Nautes (talk) 18:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Online translation: Are you sure that in the territory of modern Spain, among Muslims, including Arab immigrants, no one professes Sufism? Ыфь77 (talk) 19:02, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

If anybody does, it deserves its own article. The article formerly named Sufism in Spain only addressed Sufism in al-Andalus, that's why you were right in changing it. I just linked it to the correct item. Baal Nautes (talk) 19:04, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Online translation: If "someone there" wants to write about Sufism in Spain specifically, there is an element for that. Right now, I am satisfied with the elements touched upon in this dialogue. Ыфь77 (talk) 19:10, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Rusyn language in Zakarpattia (Q101260038)

Hello. Are you sure that this edit is correct? Eurohunter (talk) 21:21, 25 December 2024 (UTC)