Property talk:P65

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site of astronomical discovery
the place where an astronomical object was discovered (observatory, satellite)
Descriptionplace where the astronomical object discovery was made: observatory, satellite... Distinct from location of discovery (P189).
Representsdiscovered at site (Q66004497)
Data typeItem
Template parameteren:template:Infobox planet discovery_site
Domainastronomical object (Q6999) or astronomical phenomenon (Q751989)
Allowed valuesinstances of physical location (Q17334923), mainly observatory (Q62832) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Example(5611) 1943 DL (Q155571) → Iso-Heikkilä Observatory (Q2976682)
2464 Nordenskiöld (Q149113) → Iso-Heikkilä Observatory (Q2976682)
Hanny's Voorwerp (Q604603) → Apache Point Observatory (Q616529)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P65 (Q26250071)
See alsovolcano observatory (P3815)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total95,173
Main statement95,167>99.9% of uses
Qualifier6<0.1% of uses
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Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Chelyabinsk meteor (Q4661508), P/2013 R3 (Catalina–PANSTARRS) (Q20098061)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P65#Single value, SPARQL
Type “astronomical object (Q6999), astronomical phenomenon (Q751989)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “astronomical object (Q6999), astronomical phenomenon (Q751989)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P65#Type Q6999, Q751989, SPARQL
Value type “physical location (Q17334923), astronomical observatory (Q1254933)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value physical location (Q17334923), astronomical observatory (Q1254933) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P65#Value type Q17334923, Q1254933, SPARQL
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P65#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL
Item “time of discovery or invention (P575)”: Items with this property should also have “time of discovery or invention (P575)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P65#Item P575, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P65#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P65#Scope, SPARQL
This property is being used by:

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Astronomical objects properties
Main
Asteroids
Stars
Galaxies
Extrasolar planets
Relations
Discovery and name
Other

Clarification

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should be merged with Property:P189? JAn Dudík (talk) 20:26, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

if I have understood correctly, there is a bit difference with Property:P189: Property:P65 means where the discoverer is (e.g. observatory, satellite...), not where the discovered object is. --Paperoastro (talk) 21:50, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Value type constraint

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According to the property’s constraints, the value should be of physical location (Q17334923). However, astronomical observatory (Q1254933)—which looks like quite an obvious choice for places where astronomical discoveries are made—is not a subclass of physical location (Q17334923). Actually, based on a rough estimation, this probably accounts for more than 90% of the currently 33797 violations of this constraint (this is more than the half of the total usage!). This should certainly be fixed somehow as astronomical observatories are perfectly valid places of discoveries, but I’m not sure how: should the constraint be relaxed (geographic entity (Q27096213) would fit), or should astronomical observatory (Q1254933)’s class tree be changed somehow? If the latter, how? —Tacsipacsi (talk) 21:53, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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