Talk:Nightracer (G2)

Minor quibble, the bio (the only info we get on the character) doesn't really say anything about being snide and cutting. Might run the danger here of confusing the character's bio with ... well... one of her creator. - Vanguard

Aww, Raksha just has a cold prickly exterior. Underneath it all she's warm and friendly and likes cute furry animsls. -Derik 17:37, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

If you would have said uncute SCALY animals, I would have given it to you. -Vanguard

Of all pages, this one may have needed cat:Toy-only characters most of all. Really, Hasbro having no legal claim on a character whose biography is dependent on being one of Megatron's (TM) Decepticons (TM)? I can't wait to see 'this one show up in a comic. --Rotty 19:31, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

And five years later, Nightracer appears in the Fan Club comic. https://twitter.com/The_TF_Club/status/212539542115328000 95.148.10.109 10:54, 12 June 2012 (EDT)

Toy colors

From the Exclusives page:

The following year saw the first convention-exclusive toy redecoed specifically for the convention, Nightracer (albeit not to the original specifications).

Does this mean Hasbro didn't color Nightracer the way Raksha had asked them to? Or what?

This reminds me of an old theory of mine: Since the G2 Go-Bots were gang-molded, is it possible that Nightracer came from the same production run as the Japanese versions of Go-Bots Optimus Prime, Megatron and Soundwave? I.e. Nightracer was made up of "spare parts" from that production run. Does anyone own both Nightracer and the Japanese Go-Bots and can verify whether the plastic colors are identical? I'm thinking of Soundwave's car shell vs. Nightracer's head, legs and gun.--Nevermore 08:09, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

That's exactly what it means - Nightracer's "Soundwave Yellow" was meant to be blue, IIRC. What Raksha actually got were slightly redecoed Go-Bot Bumblebees. I know that for a few years, a couple BotCon dealers had a stash of "prototype" Nightracers that were presumably remainders from the run that Raksha received; they were functionally identical to the convention toy, except they didn't have any of Raksha's additions (the hand painted stripes, sticker or filecard). However, I'm not sure abut the J-Go-Bots waves; If Nightracer is actually from that production run it leaves the question of what happened to the Formula 1 and Pickup molds. Then again, that'd give us a blue pickup truck with a red body and silver shins and a white racer with blue body and white shins... in other words, Double Clutch and the solid version of Motormouth. It might be entirely feasible that some U.S. releases of Double Clutch and Motormouth were from the same run as J-Prime, J-Megatron, and J-Soundwave, with the remaining mold being used as Nightracer. You'd probably have to go back to 1995 and open fresh cases to really sort it out, though. Hooper_X 09:21, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

How about asking that in the next batch of Hasbro Q&As?--Nevermore 10:13, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

The plot thickens! Raksha says that Hasbro told her the "godawful yellow" color couldn't be changed (whch she interpreted the wrong way). Of course it can't be changed unless Takara wanted to release Soundwave with a blue car shell... AND Nightracer has the Mirage mold's wheels! So we'd have a blue pickup truck with a red body and silver shins and a white racer with blue body and white shins and Bumblebee's wheels. Did such a variant ever surface?--Nevermore 10:34, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

I don't think it's worth wasting a Q&A slot on, as nobody on the current TF team was there 15 years ago when it would have been relevant. If you look at TFU.info, Nightracer has the same wheels as Double Clutch - Mirage's are gold-tone. But, multiple molds share the same wheels. The concept car, the lamborghini, and the pickup have the same default wheels - so if say, the solid Motormouth has the wheels with the circular details (instead of the Y-shaped ones it usually has), it might suggest that the batches got mixed up somewhere. Hooper_X 16:04, 11 June 2009 (EDT)

The clone/original split

Nnnnnnnnnnno. Not unless we're going to create duplicate pages for the Marvel Comics versions of Tracks, Grapple, Skids, Hoist, and Smokescreen that Optimus Prime cloned from the originals who stayed behind on Cybertron. And we are definitely not doing that. --ItsWalky 02:59, 7 September 2012 (EDT)

Nevermind the fact that this would be at Nightracer (G2). That's her franchise of origin, because, y'know, her toy. If we were to go nuts and split this page, it's the other Nightracer page that would be (Wings Universe) or some other nonsense. --ItsWalky 03:04, 7 September 2012 (EDT)

Now until we decide if the extra page is necessary, given precedent, at least they're set up correctly. --ItsWalky 03:12, 7 September 2012 (EDT)

Yeees, I'd have to agree that a split is pretty pointless. - Chris McFeely 05:05, 7 September 2012 (EDT)

I agree that it's pointless, but also potentially can of worms territory...just off the top of my head, the Autobot resistance chiefs, Fleming and Markham could all be split into (original) and (facsimile) pages as we've never seen the originals but their existence can be extrapolated from the very fact that we've seen facsimiles of them, but in all cases I decided that a note would suffice. --Emvee 06:44, 7 September 2012 (EDT)

The only argument I could think of for splitting is that we kind of have to split all the OTHER old-guy-names G2 Gobots out. Soundwave, Bumblebee, Mirage, and Frenzy are still-living characters, far as we know, who now have concurrently-existing clones. Ironhide's deal is more close to what Nightracer's is. At that point, Nightracer would be the only one who's not split, though of course she's the only one who's split off from a non-entity. --ItsWalky 10:15, 7 September 2012 (EDT)

Shouldn't the toy be listed on Nightracer (G1)'s page as well though? At the time of creation, that toy wasn't meant to represent a clone, hence, it too is a repurpose. It looks identical to the situation with the other Gobots.Riddlerj 22:36, 6 October 2012 (EDT)

No, because Nightracer (G1) is a new character. It did not exist before. There was no G1 Nightracer. The BotCon Nightracer toy has always been technically Nightracer (G2). The (G1) page only exists to talk about the new-character-who-does-not-look-like-the-toy. --ItsWalky 22:55, 6 October 2012 (EDT)

I leave the responsibility of possibly adding a G2 Autobot symbol to the top of this page to SOMEBODY ELSE. I value my life. --ItsWalky 17:19, 3 January 2013 (EST)

Timelines TFSS toy

Do we definitely know which Nightracer, clone or template, the Timelines toy is meant to represent? The toy's profile card describes her as a sharpshooter, which I thought was a trait of the original Nightracer, not the clone. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 03:33, 4 November 2015 (EST)