Talk:Galen
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Would this, then, be the first 'official' repurposing of a toy? --MissRatbat 07:53, 24 February 2011 (EST)
In the foreword to the IDW Classics Collection 4, Mark W. Bellomo gives the Nebulan's full name as "Galen Kord," a combination of his proper and erroneous names (as seen in the page's footnotes). Is this something we should bother with, or do we consider that this is the dude who spent all of Collection 3's foreword talking about how dumb it is that Ratbat is Decepticon leader? --ItsWalky (talk) 22:53, 20 October 2014 (EDT)
- I think it sounds like claptrap, butt if we can fill the wiki with information hidden in the AAs in Cybertronian text, this seems like pretty fair game. It's information from a licensed product. (I hope this means Gort's full name is Gort Grot.) -LV (talk) 01:41, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
- Well, if we wanted to get technical the stuff in the Almanacs is presented as in-universe information, whilst this (I believe?) is an out-of-universe foreword. I mean, if Pat Lee had written a foreword featuring one of his "hilarious" misconceptions about Transformers we wouldn't take said misconception as canonical fact, right? Jalaguy (talk) 03:19, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
- I recall "Galen Kord" seeing some fandom use in days of yore; I'd be more inclined to think Bellomo was just making a mistake, misremembering that usage, rather than trying to fix or consolidate stuff. - Chris McFeely (talk) 08:55, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
- If we have to include a write-up for the Unicrons, then we can't skip this "because it's stupid". No matter how stupid. Gotta keep consistent with our pedantic minutia. (But yeah, I dunno if it should go at the top of the article or anything) --DrSpengler (talk) 09:03, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
- Only source I can find of this "first name last name" setup that pertain to Transformers is Wikipedia (and places that have taken from it). Nothing official beyond Bellomo's mentioning of it. At best, it'd probably warrant just a bullet point in the Notes section at the bottom, pointing out how it was used by fans but not in any official capacity until now. --Sabrblade (talk) 10:07, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
- Since this IS out-of-universe information, I'd suggest that it be included as a note, rather than the article title. --Jimsorenson (talk) 00:33, 1 March 2015 (EST)
- Only source I can find of this "first name last name" setup that pertain to Transformers is Wikipedia (and places that have taken from it). Nothing official beyond Bellomo's mentioning of it. At best, it'd probably warrant just a bullet point in the Notes section at the bottom, pointing out how it was used by fans but not in any official capacity until now. --Sabrblade (talk) 10:07, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
- If we have to include a write-up for the Unicrons, then we can't skip this "because it's stupid". No matter how stupid. Gotta keep consistent with our pedantic minutia. (But yeah, I dunno if it should go at the top of the article or anything) --DrSpengler (talk) 09:03, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
- I recall "Galen Kord" seeing some fandom use in days of yore; I'd be more inclined to think Bellomo was just making a mistake, misremembering that usage, rather than trying to fix or consolidate stuff. - Chris McFeely (talk) 08:55, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
- Well, if we wanted to get technical the stuff in the Almanacs is presented as in-universe information, whilst this (I believe?) is an out-of-universe foreword. I mean, if Pat Lee had written a foreword featuring one of his "hilarious" misconceptions about Transformers we wouldn't take said misconception as canonical fact, right? Jalaguy (talk) 03:19, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
Everyone seems to have more or less agreed that the Kord bit should be for notes... and then nobody acted on it. I'm going to go ahead and move the page in a day or two barring serious objection. --Jimsorenson (talk) 18:12, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
Emissary
What's the rationale for including this toy here? Saix (talk) 23:48, 19 December 2016 (EST)
- The full write-up for the toy is on Spike's page, the reasoning being they look very similar. I'd prefer if both this and Spike's page did the same "See main article" thing that's on Muzzle's page but they should at least be consistent with each other. Omegatron (talk) 16:04, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
- I don't think it should be on Spike's page either, but that's a stronger case because Emissary is directly based on Spike. Galen is a nobody character that only exists for plot purposes in Marvel. People weren't thinking of him when designing the toy. If you have a problem with it being on Spike's page, then bring it up on Spike's talk page. Saix (talk) 16:34, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
- Muzzle's article is how it is because Hasbro specifically characterised that toy as Tiny Nightbeat (and Loudmouth as Tiny Siren and so on). Emissary, meanwhile, is still "Fortress Maximus's tiny partner", AKA he's Spike with a new name. And then I guess the logic is that since Galen was a reuse of the Spike design, Emissary should go here too. Jalaguy (talk) 18:36, 1 June 2017 (EDT)
- I don't think it should be on Spike's page either, but that's a stronger case because Emissary is directly based on Spike. Galen is a nobody character that only exists for plot purposes in Marvel. People weren't thinking of him when designing the toy. If you have a problem with it being on Spike's page, then bring it up on Spike's talk page. Saix (talk) 16:34, 1 June 2017 (EDT)