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  • Eh, there’s the legal concept of someone being an agent of the company. It wasn’t typically expected to take orders, nor was it tied into the order system it seems.

    In the cases where the deal had to be honored, the bot had the ability to actually generate and place an order, and that was one of the primary things it did. The two cases that come to mind are a car dealership and an airline, where you could use it to actually place a vehicle order ornto find and buy flights.
    As agents of the business, if they make a preposterous deal you’re stuck with it.

    A distinction can be made to stores where the person who comes up and offers to help you isn’t an agent of the business. They can use the sales computer to find the price, and they can look for a discount, but they can’t actually adjust the order price without a manager coming over to enter a code and do it.

    In this case it sounds like someone did the equivalent of going to a best buy and talking to the person who helps you find the video games trying to get them to say something discount code-ish. Once they did, they said they wanted to redeem that coupon and threatened to sue.

    It really hinges on if it was tied to the ordering system or not.



  • Well, first off he wasn’t actually doing it after Celsius existed as a temperature scale. He made it a solid 18 years beforehand.
    Second, there are some issues. Specifically, ice freezes at 0, but it doesn’t stop getting colder. So if you have a bit of ice, that doesn’t tell you the temperature, just that it’s below a threshold. Boiling is more convenient because liquid water can’t get above 100, but you do have to consider side pressure.
    Fahrenheit used brine because as it freezes it forces salt out of the ice, making it more resistant to freezing. It self stabilizes its temperature, which is immensely handy.

    None of the people designing their scales envisioned that using the basic reference points for common calibration would be a thing. Just like how we don’t calibrate them with brine, ice, steam or butts today, instead relying on how we marked down how electrical resistance changes as a function of temperature and then calibrated reference numbers to get the scale right.

    It’s important to remember that the people in the past were largely not stupid, they simply hadn’t found out something we take for granted or they had priorities that we don’t.




  • It’s more complicated than that. It’s literally that sometimes two of the exact same item last for radically different times. It’s not a different design or manufacturing process, just an amorphous series of random factors lining up we call luck.

    Mean time between failures is something they do actually measure in manufacturing, and you see interesting results like what hard drive manufacturers do to increase reliability: stress test the drives until the ones destined to fail early fail, and then sell the others.

    There are things that can increase reliability, but a lot of the things that make the extreme outliers are just random, and no one documents what they were because they didn’t know it was going not have an effect, good or bad.




  • I’m one of those people who knows we should standardize, bit also finds Fahrenheit just very convenient.

    Like, when people say it’s 50 out, I immediately know that it’s going to feel about halfway between what I know 0 and 100 feel like. No one can even put up the pretext of doing that with Celsius, because not even the most pedantic person ever bothers to tell you when it’s 100 c out.

    In seriousness though, the Fahrenheit scale isn’t non-sense, it’s just addressing things we don’t much need help with anymore. The zero point was chosen as a temperature you can create reliably without particularly sophisticated tools, and the range is so freezing and boiling are 180 degrees apart, putting them on the opposite sides of a dial.


  • Ugh, I’m one of those people who will defend imperial as not being irrational, just built ad-hoc for purposes that aren’t in alignment with modern ones and … No, that’s not what Fahrenheit is.

    Fahrenheit was trying to make a temperature scale that was easy to recreate to ease the calibration of thermometers. Zero is a temperature that can be created in your garage with some ice, salt and water. 100 was his best, ultimately inaccurate, attempt to measure human body temperature, since it’s another easy calibration point, and from there water was defined as 32 and 212 so that they were 180 degrees apart, which would fit will on a temperature dial.
    Not irrational, not a comfort scale, and not in alignment with current needs.

    It’s pure coincidence that it kinda lines up with comfortable outdoor temperatures in the opinion of a good chunk of a population living in the northern part of the western hemisphere.


  • Are you asking me why I have an opinion on something? Because I do. You don’t need special reasons to make comments on a forum.

    You aren’t listening. They depicted black people in the fashion that they depicted Greek people. They didn’t find them a weird novelty. The nature of ancient Greek prejudice wouldn’t have them depict people as Greek that they didn’t consider Greek. That intrinsically says something about the cultural integration, because that’s what the Greeks got weird over. If it was uncommon for them to be there they would have mentioned it because they mentioned all manner of uncommon things.
    If they were a part of the society, and common enough that it wasn’t worth mentioning “…and then the one black guy in Athens showed up…”, then it seems clear to me that that’s “plenty”.

    Nothing is being spun. I and others have given you evidence. You haven’t and are just making vacuous claims. Why do you have the opinion you do about the skin tone content of ancient Greece? Is it the enlightenment era paintings of Greek philosophers as white as could be? That the paint fell off the statues so now they’re just white marble? That all the black people in the pottery are “obviously” artistic choices, but the white people just … Are?
    I’m sure you have a reason for thinking what you do, so what is it?
    Neither a conversation nor a debate works by one person demanding evidence, denying it, and then refusing to elaborate In their beliefs.


  • Alright, demonstrate that the demographics are as you assert they are. I’ve shown you that they’re depicted in their arts and culture, both as they depicted outsiders and as they depicted themselves, as well as that they had unremarkable interactions with Ethiopia and beyond.
    The link also details the history of using the racial composition of ancient Greece for all manner of racial weirdness that wasn’t representative of the Greeks themselves, up to and including Internet race weirdos who get bent out of shape about a black person being depicted in a movie set in the Mediterranean.

    At this point you’ve been given plenty of evidence that there sufficient numbers of dark skinned people that it wasn’t remarkable. If you disagree that it would somehow have been remarkable, or that this isn’t a perfectly workable definition of “plenty”, then show some reason why beyond “well everyone knows”.
    Hell, demonstrate that there were plenty of white people.







  • You may be conflating the quakers with a different religious group.
    While still a religious group, the quakers are largely one of the most accepting. They were initially given trouble by the Dutch. Their numbers have never really been high enough to have the type of social sway that you’re thinking.

    Maybe you’re thinking the puritans or pilgrims? They’re the ones who kinda took over. Shame, inherent sin and all that.
    The quakers are the pacifist abolitionists who think church should be a group of people quietly thinking in someone’s home until someone feels moved to share an idea.

    While it would be better if our country was less religiously locked in, I’m pretty sure if it was the quakers that rose to prevalence we’d be way better off, even if only from the “not my job to enforce your morality” part.


  • Hey, let’s not turn dislike for the technology into dislike for people.

    You saw someone copying and pasting back and forth between email and chatgpt, message coworkers and then work on a chart in Excel.
    For all you know he was using chatgpt to translate the emails, not as a prosthetic mind.

    group that all had very Indian looking names

    What does the ethnicity of who he messaged matter? If anything it lends credence to “guy used translation software for work email”.

    At no point in the 3 hour flight did a conscious thought enter his mind

    completely dependent on AI. Without it their lives and careers would fall apart. This guy would pay anything for it. He cannot function without it

    That’s a mighty leap to make from what you described.
    Saying someone else didn’t have conscious thought reeks of “I’m the main character and everyone else is an NPC”.

    There are people who use it. There are people who pay for it, and there are people who over use and over pay for it. That can be true and you can be upset by it without demoting people below “consciousness”.


  • You are one dense person. You’re literally asking me to understand what I said to you.

    What part of anything I said to you implies I’m not taking it seriously? That I don’t understand the dangerous path we’re on?

    You’re saying it’s an American problem, so we should fix it ourselves. I’m saying that we quite likely don’t have the ability to hurt the people in power meaningfully before they escalate things further.

    Saying you should stop giving us money because it’s one of the only things that might hurt them or get people desperate enough to depose them before they start a war with Canada or Denmark isn’t failing to take it seriously or not understand it.
    I’m truly confused how you’re ending up in that place.

    Are you going to explain to the drone, you didn’t support Trump? Complain about the democrats for the situation you’re in? Stop being stupid. All of your bullshit excuses don’t matter anymore.

    Are you just using me as a punching bag because you’re mad at Americans as a whole?