The irony of this comment is palpable.

I presume that you are unfamiliar with the meme, so you don’t see the context of someone loudly proclaiming their outrage at something above and beyond something else, only to be pulled up by someone else pointing at the absurdity of considering the something else being treated as the lesser issue. Not contained in the image version is the first person turning to the second and rapidly disclaiming their apparent support (or lack of sanction) of the issue they can excuse.

Given that such lack of care regarding things that do not effect them personally, it’s also an example of the lukewarm acceptance of the white moderate the King discussed in Birmingham. The idea that there are more important issues than the naked bigotry and we must deal with other issues first is the bewildering support that is more frustrating than the outright rejection.

But, then, you should have some inkling of that, shouldn’t you? Given how much you had to demand nuance of those who question where you place your disdain in your edits.

But, sure, let your takeaway be that I said you excused racism.

You may notice that I didn’t say you excused racism, but instead became the meme:

If you’re going to crib from Letters From A Birmingham Jail, maybe don’t become the “I can excuse racism, but I draw the line at…” meme?

You’re talking about narrative control, you ain’t gonna be controlling the narrative on your lonesome. You can’t work with the people who are being transphobic at a statue? Work with the people who can. Heck, work with the people who can push the narrative away from the transphobia. Or even just work with the people working to build the frameworks for getting better narratives out in people’s faces. Bottom line, work with people.

You don’t know who’s working to do those things? Work to figure out what should be done and who is doing things, and–this is the important part–get some people to help you do those figure out those whats and the whos. There is so much work to be done, and so much of that work is just figuring out what needs to happen and when and where it that need is. Every org complains about capacity, always, because there is always more to be done.

We spend far too much time yelling at each other for being complicit in the nothing being done about this, and that only serves to suck our time and energy away from working together to figure out how to unfuck this.

I have people in my near-age group who were punished for using their left hand and not the “correct hand.” Given the right environment, they’ll bring it back and act like it’s the morally correct thing.

“Y’all” like you ain’t part of the discourse. Don’t just complain, educate. What’s obvious to you is novel to someone, and you not getting organized with your narrative is just waiting for someone organized to present theirs instead.

“The left hates us because we’re frog furries” is one of the takes of all time.

Perhaps you might examine the various way in which queer people in general have been marginalized by labelling all their activities as obscene and sexual. For example, you might take the example of teachers in Florida who are in a same-sex marriage being prohibited from mentioning their marriage lest they be sanctioned for sexual content, while teachers in straight marriages were under no such restrictions. Similarly, the existence of queer people itself has been deemed so sexual by some that even mentioning to a child who is struggling with their identity that queer people exist has been called–in all absence of reason–child abuse.

If you can take those example, and then consider that your perspective of furries, much like homo- and transphobes’ perspective of queer people, is skewed to view it as entirely sexual despite all the parts that aren’t and classify the parts that would be normal sexuality in any other subgroup as deviant. This, as you might be able to deduce, can be quite restrictive of those people’s “allowed” place in society.

Sorry, were you around for the past several elections? Perhaps the 2020 elections where, upon the progressives banding with Biden to get him elected with the expectation that we would be able to “push him to the left”, the Democratic party decided that the reason they didn’t win more seats was because Progressives had damaged their chances of winning, and they must be marginalized. Or perhaps the 2016 elections where, the target of a long running hate campaign was preferred by the party over the popular progressive candidate who was then blamed for his supporters not being won over. Or the 2012 elections where the incumbent Democrat failed to deliver on progressive policies and was a high water mark for drone strikes, but progressives helped bring the win over the candidate Republicans weren’t excited for.

I voted for Harris in hopes that she’d beat out Trump despite how much she and Biden before her discarded progressive policy. I was under no expectation of Progressives being able to do a damn thing to reach her.

Please recognize that other people in this thread are doing those things while you, separately, are merely deriding furries. And while they may not be wholly queer, there is a lot of queer people who are furries and, apparently, a least one study found that two-thirds of furries are queer. And, yes, as it happens “theatre kids” are often queer, and recognizing that a lot of homophobia is directed at theatre folk because it can be an space for queer people to safely explore their identity is somewhat important.

I appreciate that they and their personal community is in pain at this moment, but I don’t think they were justified in calling me and mine cowardly and hopelessly sheltered because I personally live in relative safety and am struggling with the helplessness of being unable to make enough of an impact to my government was called for. I don’t want me and mine to go through such pain, but I am increasingly concerned that we will not be able to avoid it.

I have people that I’m working with on the local scene who could not bring themselves to vote for Harris, even with how awful they knew Trump to be. I was able to vote, but I understand why they could and know that they still get out and do the work

Being disappointed by Democrats is unfortunately nothing new for me. Two decades of it under my belt so far.

Yeah, and what they’ve been doing to Rashida Tlaib has been sickening me. I have so much respect for what she’s been doing, and seeing the Democratic Party trying to villainize her and her constituents has been disheartening.

Clearly, no queer person has ever adopted a flamboyant persona and worn elaborately designed costumes.

I’m all over this comment chain. It rather bothers me seeing this kind of bigotry get deployed against a queer subculture, and a rather long standing one, because it’s the same oppression that gets put on us from the outside, and it is especially galling when I see queer people do it to other queer people. I presume that TERF lesbians calling trans people “predatory men invading women’s spaces and misguided sisters” is something you can’t stand at least as much as I do? Please recognize that painting furries as sexual degenerates is the same thing. Maybe I’m at a nexus of the gay furry community, but so many of the queer people in my locale are also part of the furry subculture, and, no, their existence is not purely sexual, and, yes, furry is a pretty core aspect of their identity and culture.

Oh, indeed. I’m sure you have a tight five about identifying as a helicopter you’re just dying to share with us.

And now the pivot from furries to trans people. I am utterly shocked that this would be the case.

Another day, another sensationalization of the sexual aspects of a queer subcultures. If it’s not the “inherent sexualization of discussing gay people”, or trans people as "autogynephillia and autoandrophillia’, it’s furries or kink at pride. It’s really disheartening hearing the same tools of oppression being deployed over and over again.

Tell me you don’t know queer subcultures without telling me you don’t know queer subcultures. Would you like to complain about drag shows while you’re at it? I hear it is very in vogue at the moment.

That hasn’t been my experience of Democrats so much as them using “at least we aren’t as bad a the Republicans” as justification for not pushing to stop harm, holding to the status quo as hard as they can and “courageously” voting with the Republicans to “save” something while dismantling something else. It seems like the lionizing of mediocrity.

With respect, I do not believe that you are describing me here. I have friends and family effected by several issues, and who–if not lamenting their lost loved one–are in fear of losing either their loved ones or their own life. I am indeed in what I consider (hope?) to be a relatively safe part of the US where my state may go as far as to protect my friends, family and self from what the incoming administration has already said it wishes to do to me and mine. I am trying very hard to ensure the people around me are safe, and I hope that these efforts bear fruit for my community.

I worked to the very last moment of the election to encourage Harris to come out in support of the Palestinians and, to my growing horror as the election progressed, the other victims of the growing conflict. I even did the “harm reduction” of voting for Harris’ plan of gentle chastisement over the outright support and encouragement of Trump’s, for all the good that my vote did.

I will not apologize for my family and friends continued survival and not yet having lost anyone to my knowledge, and will not wish it on them. I hope that you or your loved ones do not experience more loss, and have the space to recover as much as possible from that which you have already experienced. And may we all make it through the hate and violence that have been planned and that those that claimed to stand against it actually do so when it matters.