• fiat_lux@lemmy.world
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    31 minutes ago

    It’s a wonder people haven’t started throwing water balloons filled with mud and flour at the cameras. Perhaps he should be grateful that’s not a trend?

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    5 hours ago

    I want to flip the cameras the bird when I’m driving by but when I see them they are on my side of the road and pointing the wrong way…

  • youmaynotknow@lemmy.zip
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    13 hours ago

    Can someone explain how this makes any sense? They were ordered legally to deactivate and remove, unilaterally decide to put them back up and reactivate, the authorities (whomever those are) resort to covering them instead of removing and destroying them because “removing them is illegal”?

    What the actual fuck is this?

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      2 hours ago

      My guess (emphasis “guess”) is either some contractual bullshit or a result of state law superseding local law.

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    14 hours ago

    Does he care to explain why they leave town when cities or states simply tell them that all the data they collect becomes public domain?

    Oh, so they aren’t providing a public service, the only thing they care about is selling my data and keeping it secret.

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    16 hours ago

    I used deflock to look for cameras around me; I CANNOT leave my city limits by car without passing by a Flock camera.

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      5 hours ago

      A question to nobody in particular: would it be possible to make license plate covers that are made out of the same material as those anti-facial recognition glasses?

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        32 minutes ago

        It’s not just license plate readers anymore. They have cameras that perform facial recognition and other identifying recognition.

        Your car is in many ways uniquely identifiable by its markings and its model that vehicle with many pictures of it and that license plate are already in a database. If you have stickers, if you have big dents or additions and changes from the base model of your vehicle than you are quite identifiable within a particular geographical area depending on the urban density.

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        4 hours ago

        There’s YouTube video out there, the name escapes at the moment, where he figures out how to basically insert “noise” over his license plate that can lead to flock cameras not recognizing it. Fascinating stuff.

        Two big issues IMO. 1) maybe it fools cameras now, but who knows if it continues to. 2) it’s illegal to cover your plate, probably doubly with the intent to obfuscate. My solution is bike rack. “Oops, didn’t meant to cover my plate” is good plausible deniability.

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          2 hours ago

          It’s Benn Jordan

          Also, the way they catalogue info is not just license numbers, but any unique combinations of bike racks, bumper stickers or the like. So your bike rack would make you very trackable in a way, but at least your identity would be harder to pinpoint

          And about the intentional obfuscation, all kinds of princess pavement trucks and entitled BMWs deliberately use smoked license plate covers, and nobody bats an eye. So if there’s a law against that, it either has no teeth or is not enforced

    • TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      My city is one of the few in my county that doesn’t have a contract with flock, but the county was nice enough to put them up around town anyway.

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          15 hours ago

          I’d be interested to know, the reason I know my city doesn’t have it is a bunch of residents pushed for it at multiple council meetings.

  • obvs@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    Flock cameras need to be banned, and the ones that are left should absolutely be destroyed. There is no excuse for having these things in communities.

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      I believe the collection of the information is inevitable. What I would push for instead of driving them to make the cameras and databases more clandestine than they already are is for the information that they collect to be made openly available to all.

      As things are, it’s a very asymmetrical power tool for the advantage of the (government) operators.

      When ALL the information is available to everyone, we can talk about where the cameras do and do not need to be. And any unapproved cameras can be suppressed as evidence against private individuals.

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    19 hours ago

    Since Flock CEO wants to give this movement some press

    Here’s Benn Jordan, he’s done a series of videos on the cameras, demonstrates their vulnerabilities, and talks about how Flock has been deploying secretly by co-opting local municipalities to subsidize their national rollout.

    First video, the one seems to have started the major anti-Flock push: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp9MwZkHiMQ

    Follow-up showing how easy they are to hack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB0gr7Fh6lY

    More live demonstrated vulnerabilities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU1-uiUlHTo

    Not as directly related, but he discusses a way to use generative AI models to create noise masks for your specific plate that will disrupt the OCR process that ALPRs use. (Key term: Adversarial Noise) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_F4rEaRduk

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    15 hours ago

    Yeah anything or anyone that starves the greed disease is a terrorist. Shame that greed is only terminal for the victims of it and not the carriers