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  • LordKekz@discuss.tchncs.de
    12·
    9 months ago

    These datacenters planned by SAP, Telekom etc. appear to focus on AI datacenters, not general digital sovereignty. I think LLM training is much, much less important than getting governments, companies and individuals away from american tech giants.

    Also, who will get most of the money? NVIDIA, an american company. Buying 500k american GPUs for billions isn’t the grandiose step towards sovereignty they make it out to be.

    Why not invest the money in EU chip design? Why not EU hardware design and manufacturing? Why not industrial automation and robotics? Installing renewables, improving infrastructure? There are other challenges which are more likely to be useful than power-hungry slop machines. I have yet to see LLMs being used for non-trivial tasks reliably. The most frequent use for LLMs I have seen is to relieve people from thinking critically or putting in the effort to learn skills properly. Which are both extremely bad and dangerous things that will actually reduce productivity and quality in the long term.

    • HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      9 months ago

      I think maybe both objectives can be saught after simultaneously. Lidl’s parent company is starting to sell business cloud services in Europe. The private market, if protected, can fill the gap for sovereign European cloud services. Not sure about the industrial part of the equation though.

  • ExtremeDullard@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    6·
    9 months ago

    Aaw great, now Europe wants to have its own implementation of this scourge. Like American Big Data wasn’t nefarious enough.

  • D_a_X@feddit.org
    4·
    9 months ago

    The governments in Germany and France want to speed up the construction of clouds in the EU. A European Darpa for war research is being set up.

    […] A new Franco-German agency for innovations is planned for military research - based on the model of the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (Darpa).
    In the trade conflict with the Trump administration, Germany and France are focusing on unity - an agreement with the USA should remain the declared goal. But the paper goes further: for the first time, the possibility of using “monetary and austerity policy levers” against Trump is brought into play.

  • andallthat@lemmy.world
    01·
    9 months ago

    More choice = better. On the other hand, Germany and France are both getting uncomfortably close to having neo-Nazi governments, with AfD and RN respectively being both very pro-Russia, anti-EU and aligned with Trump policies (even though Le Pen can’t say it too loudly because of her party’s historical anti-Americanism).

    I hope these efforts to create a EU infrastructure succeed, but on the other hand big investments on AI:

    1. take time that I’m not sure we have

    2. sound exactly like the technocratic solutions “far from the real problems of the people” that these parties love to exploit to gain votes and get to power

    • d7sdx@lemmy.world
      1·
      9 months ago

      Can you elaborate on the connection between “national” cloud initiatives and Nazi/Putin fans? I don’t get it.