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Global rename for باسم
- Global user: باسم (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
- Not ending before 9 May 2017 19:36 UTC
I'm an Editor and an Admin and a check user on ar.wiki (my home wiki). We on ar.wiki suffer in many occasions from user names that violates our local username policy, and not often we find a free GB who can help in renaming such accounts, and in several occasions requests have piled up for a while before someone did something about it. Since i'm Available on a daily basis on ar.wiki, and there doesn't seem to be a reason that would prevent me from participating daily for the time being, i belive i can help in this particular issue. Thank you--باسم (talk) 19:36, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support This user can be trusted. —Alvaro Molina (✉ - ✔) 20:20, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- Strong support Bassem is one of the most active users, sysops and check users in ar.wiki, he exist almost all the time and in ar.wiki and meta we need another Arabic GB to help in ar. requests since the another GB almost inactive! --Alaa :)..! 21:05, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support – Active, highly experienced, good cross-wiki presence, and has a valid need. No concerns. –Juliancolton | Talk 21:10, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support As above --Melos (talk) 22:31, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 23:28, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- Seems reasonable request and experienced user for this right, so, he can be trusted for this. Support. --Ks-M9 [disc.] 01:00, 25 April 2017 (UTC).
- Support -FASTILY 08:37, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Samuele2002 (Talk!) 20:15, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support Global rename is a position of trust, and being a local checkuser more than sufficiently demonstrates that trust. No problems here. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 21:19, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support. Yes. MechQuester (talk) 23:29, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support Jianhui67 talk★contribs 10:38, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support. ··· 🌸 Rachmat04 · ☕ 14:14, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support Per k6ka's comment. --TerraCodes (talk) 03:56, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Alexmar983 (talk) 04:45, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support. DARIO SEVERI (talk) 19:34, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support--Biplab Anand (Talk) 16:33, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support Ks0stm (T•C•G) 11:17, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
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Global editinterface for Nirmos
- Global user: Nirmos (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
There is now widespread JavaScript breakage across WMF projects, as can be seen at en:Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Old script-pocalypse. This is because phab:T122755 was recently resolved, which removed variables that had previously been deprecated. What I'd like to do is:
- Update sitewide JS and gadgets so that projects are no longer in script error
- Prepare for the next removal (phab:T35837, phab:T72470) so that that removal won't be as painful as this one was
Nirmos (talk) 00:08, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- I am not sure that breakdowns are so widespread. In fact, many scripts on many wikis have already been updated. Ruslik (talk) 18:24, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- Ruslik0 and Rschen7754: If the breakdowns weren't so widespread, or if an error in one gadget couldn't stop all other JavaScript from executing, then we wouldn't get bug reports on Phabricator like phab:T163974, phab:T164013, phab:T164443, phab:T164615 and phab:T164908. Please, do you see now that I'm not making this up, and that I'm doing this for the communities? Nirmos (talk) 11:34, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
- For the record, there have been 3 previous (unsuccessful) requests for this permission in the past: [1], [2], [3]. --Vogone (talk) 19:58, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- I am still not convinced by the rationale, and the three failed requests are worrying. --Rschen7754 01:30, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- JavaScript does not currently work on a large number of projects. How is that rationale not good enough? Nirmos (talk) 02:12, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- How many of those wiki's javascript can be fixed by updating the code and/or removing local versions of the code and replacing them with versions on mediawikiwiki or metawiki? --TerraCodes (talk) 02:19, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand the question, but to be perfectly clear, I do not intend to replace local versions of scripts with
mw.loader.load
calls to other projects, nor do I intend to do any kind of copy-pasting between projects. That's not what this is about and I think that would require a lot more discussion. What I intend to do is very simple adjustments, like replacingaddPortletLink
withmw.util.addPortletLink
, wrapping code that depends on certain ResourceLoader modules withmw.loader.using
, declaring missing dependencies on MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition. That sort of thing. Does that answer your question, TerraCodes? Nirmos (talk) 02:59, 3 May 2017 (UTC)- Yes, it does. Thanks --03:57, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand the question, but to be perfectly clear, I do not intend to replace local versions of scripts with
- "JavaScript does not currently work on a large number of projects" is misleading, because you are implying that all scripts are broken on a large number of projects. That is false. Again I have to Oppose this sort of doomsday-style justification to get a very powerful right. I have never been convinced of the user's willingness to tread lightly on big wikis which don't like outsiders coming in and editing their scripts either. --Rschen7754 05:54, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- No, it's not misleading. All scripts do not have to generate an error for JavaScript to be down on a site. An error in one gadget – or even in a gadget definition – is enough to stop all other JavaScript from executing. Nirmos (talk) 19:38, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- It indeed is not misleading and Nirmos is describing the situation accurately (and this is once more an example of how most other users have NO clue how Javascript works on this site). Additionally this botdetection is reporting 440 site wide running script pages that are likely to have a problem, some of those don't even compile. And that excludes any mistakes in gadgets and widely used user scripts, which will also cause highly variant failures that can be very confusing to users. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:45, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- No, it's not misleading. All scripts do not have to generate an error for JavaScript to be down on a site. An error in one gadget – or even in a gadget definition – is enough to stop all other JavaScript from executing. Nirmos (talk) 19:38, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- How many of those wiki's javascript can be fixed by updating the code and/or removing local versions of the code and replacing them with versions on mediawikiwiki or metawiki? --TerraCodes (talk) 02:19, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- JavaScript does not currently work on a large number of projects. How is that rationale not good enough? Nirmos (talk) 02:12, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose Per Majora's comments on previous requests. --TerraCodes (talk) 04:01, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- JavaScript is fully broken for all or many users on hundreds of wikis and there are thousands of pages to update, see also phabricator:T164242#3230381. I'd support (temporary) global editinterface for anyone able to help, but the candidate didn't provide information showing experience in the field. --Nemo 08:17, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Nemo: Ignoring all the work I have done on svwiki, you can see what other projects I have updated on my user page. You are most welcome to look at my contributions on those projects and judge for yourself. Nirmos (talk) 19:41, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support On it.wiki we are experiencing a lot of problems because of this. We desperately urge skilled peoples being able to fix our broken scripts ASAP. --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 16:53, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Roberto Mura: itwiki could always add temporary/limited adminship if desired. — xaosflux Talk 05:10, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support Nirmos is very experienced and has proven to be competent through his work on svwiki and a lot of other wikis. We can not ignore the fact that many wikis are experiencing difficult problems with JavaScript. If a user like Nirmos wants to help solve these problems, I think the community should be happy about it and assign him the permissions. Frisko (talk) 12:13, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support, Nirmos is trusted, and helping hands are always needed. Stryn (talk) 12:31, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not exactly familiar with Nirmos' his/her Javascript skills in detail since we only just met, but judging from recent contributions it seems decent enough. The user has also been active long enough that a basic level of trust to not abuse his privileges seems in place. The problem is that most of the sites are not moving on the front of keeping their javascript up to date enough to prevent serious user facing problems. Basically everything below en.wp, de.wp and Commons is likely to be a sorry affair, simply because they lack qualified JS developers who are able to take care of / prevent problems. These sites mostly just copy paste from other sites what works and never follow up. Therefor in principal I support this request. However I would caution Nirmos to take his actions slow, to diligently provide edit summaries (more than on a homewiki) and to make use of a tool like tool tourbot where appropriate. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:45, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose per most of the rationales on the last 3 requests - the attitudes expressed in these leaves me concerned that local communities interests will not be the top priority. — xaosflux Talk 05:10, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. --Steinsplitter (talk) 13:08, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
Abuse filter helper for Mirinano
- Global user: Mirinano (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
I am requesting Abuse filter helpers permission. I understand Abuse filter helpers. And i understand what AbuseFilter extension is. I think that by checking the abuse logs of many projects, I will be able to create a more effective Abusefilter and capture the trend of vandalism. Thanks! --mirinano (talk) 16:26, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Strong oppose not experienced enough on wikimedia projects. no sysop/abuse filtter experience on local wikis.--Infinite0694 (Talk) 04:12, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- 反対 - I can't find evidences about your work on these areas. I recommend a demostrated local work as an admin that can work in abusefilters (or edit filter managers, for example: enwiki, jawiki, etc). Additionally, cross-wiki activity indicates that isn't experienced enough for this right. Perhaps I can reconsider on the future. --Ks-M9 [disc.] 06:19, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose He is not an administrator on any project where he can demonstrate a need to have this global permission. First get to be an administrator on some established wiki and demonstrate considerable work on abuse filters before requesting this permission. —Alvaro Molina (✉ - ✔) 06:27, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose not experienced enough even in home wiki, let alone in other wikis. In addition, s/he is a person who just keeps seeking adminship of any kind, rather than contributing productively, e.g. writing articles, uploading images, etc. Yassie (talk) 09:04, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- Strong support His comment is invalid. This is because of the fact that Yassie always looks down on Japanese who have a high regard for japanese traditions and that he doesn't speaks within compass, which is also part of Japanese culture, due to the fact that he is a nonchalant attitude toward japanese custom.-Best of Mickey (talk) 12:33, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- (To LTA:ISECHIKA) Wikimedia Project is operated by Wikimedia Foundation that headquatered in San Francisco, Caligornia, United States. If you don't intend to follow US tradition, you'd better to leave MetaWikipedia and Japanese Wikipedia. --信任むりなの (talk) 14:03, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Where are your eyes? I'm not ISECHIKA, who is not use English. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. He does not try to clean up his behavior, which is to create POV of the America article into which a person puts his entire heart and spirit. His act is a grief to JAWP.--Best of Mickey (talk) 14:46, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- (To LTA:ISECHIKA) Wikimedia Project is operated by Wikimedia Foundation that headquatered in San Francisco, Caligornia, United States. If you don't intend to follow US tradition, you'd better to leave MetaWikipedia and Japanese Wikipedia. --信任むりなの (talk) 14:03, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Strong support His comment is invalid. This is because of the fact that Yassie always looks down on Japanese who have a high regard for japanese traditions and that he doesn't speaks within compass, which is also part of Japanese culture, due to the fact that he is a nonchalant attitude toward japanese custom.-Best of Mickey (talk) 12:33, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support--連綿 (talk) 14:58, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- Strong oppose He is not Have achievement in japanese wikipedia. and his having it only as desire for authority. --Hman (talk) 02:48, 8 May 2017 (UTC) (jawp's former sysop)
- Strong oppose I don't trust him. He is too calculating. --市井の人 (talk) 07:43, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Strong oppose He repeated his great mistake with a candidacy(WP:PERM). I can not entrust it to him.--切干大根 (talk) 08:17, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Strongest Oppose S/he is a hat collector. See Mirinano in miraheze wiki. --信任むりなの (talk) 13:24, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Not done. —MarcoAurelio 09:15, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
remove request in incubator test-sysop and translation admin for Rachitrali
- Global user: Rachitrali (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
He is sockpuppetor already blocked in English wikipedia according to wikipedia policy sockpuppetor have no rights to vandalise on wikipedia . 37.111.128.233 10:45, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Not done This venue is only for requests of global rights or their removal. Ruslik (talk) 11:53, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Global editinterface for Petrb
- Global user: Petrb (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Hi, I had this permission twice or more, but it was always automatically removed after some time, I would like to have it again, because it helps me maintain Huggle and its configuration pages and templates, which are all over Wikimedia projects, and often protected, thanks. --Petrb (talk) 18:19, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Rschen7754 18:50, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support -jkb- 23:15, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support Another example of why this permission should be granted indefinitely (and removed upon inactivity or abuse) so users wouldn't have to re-request it every now and then...
— Danny B. 03:55, 9 May 2017 (UTC) - Support -FASTILY 07:12, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support Reasonable. —Alvaro Molina (✉ - ✔) 09:16, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support Sure. Seems reasonable. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 14:05, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
add global OTRS member for Chico Venancio
- Global user: Chicocvenancio (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Thx. --Krd 07:52, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- There is no global account for "Chico Venancio". —MarcoAurelio 09:14, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Krd: ,is it User:Chicocvenancio ? --HakanIST (talk) 09:47, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- You are right, sorry for my mistake. --Krd 10:00, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- Done.--HakanIST (talk) 10:03, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
remove global OTRS member for Mussklprozz
- Global user: Mussklprozz (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Thx. --Krd 09:03, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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