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Fix Geschlecht
editHi! I have a few GNDs with wrong Geschlecht field:
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/119179598
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1021382205
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1112485287
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1037922565
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1019752149
All the corresponding items have a deprecated sex or gender (P21) sourced with GND; you can remove it afterwards. Thanks! --Epìdosis 22:28, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Done Thank you for the hint. --Kolja21 (talk) 23:32, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
other cases
editThanks very much. Here are other cases (many deriving from FilmPortal), in some cases also the occupation should be fixed:
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/106231249X (which is a duplicate, in fact) = Gene Scott (Q5531440): American television preacher (1929-2005)
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/117214809 = Ludwig Lore (Q6699278): American newspaper editor and politician
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1061917517 = Pat Silver-Lasky (Q7144017): American screenwriter
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1061365476 = Bill Irvine (Q18246991): British ballroom dancer (1926-2008)
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1062133331 = Frances Hyland (Q60330037): American screenwriter
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1062324617 = Annemie Degryse (Q81057060): film producer
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1115008749 = Maria Nicolai Paynter (Q93229045): italianist (1942-)
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1179386302 = Judith Vajda (Q94734800): no description
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/119385120 = Hermann H. Field (Q94763854): architect and writer
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1082560634 = Wolfgang P. Kappe (Q94764279): mathematician
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1127887998 = Paula Schalk (Q94896419): no description
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1076009441 = Anna Dorothea von Österreich (Q94927714): no description
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1061322165 = Frances Calvert (Q95274708): director
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1070804215 = Margarethe Welling (Q95283310): no description
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/120581078 = Barbara S. Wackernagel (Q95330357): no description
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1075748186 = Eduardo Friedman (Q95652713): Ph.D. Princeton University 1983, fl. 1965 ≠ b. 1965 (I've filed a report)
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1061256367 (he plays an old man in the film listed in FilmPortal) = Erich Tiebel (Q95668736): actor
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/106189343X (he plays Anton Schiller in the film listed in FilmPortal) = Marco Hellenthal (Q95669681): no description
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1061377857 = Iri Supit (Q95673582): no description
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/117155233 = Hermann Lörchner (Q95698227): no description
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1061357589 = Kevin Keating (Q95680906): no description
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/117402060 = Hugo Singer (Q95703133): no description
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1061975940 = Lindzee Smith (Q95706551): Australian actor (1940-2007)
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1061498468 = Rolf A. Kluenter (Q95707494): no description
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1061510107 = Bernard Chaumeil (Q95708964): boom operator
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1062372727 = Maurizio Paparazzo (Q95713731): Italian director (1956-)
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1025007441 = Philip Spencer (Q95747422): no description
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1061485854 = Simon Quack (Q95753808): German filmmaker
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1061430367 (she plays Carmen in the film listed in FilmPortal) = Frances Khan (Q95769707): actress
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/1062445430 = Velvet Moraru (Q95896653): Romanian film producer
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1061252949 = Efrat Bigger (Q95899004): no description
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1178818462 = Kirsten Møllegaard (Q113738601): no description
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1130604624 = Antoine Vuilleumier (Q113845269): no description
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1133500897 = Michael A. Van Horn (Q113845757): no description
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1036804992 = Wiebe Hogendoorn (Q117464774): Professor Emeritus, Instituut voor Theaterwetenschap, Universiteit van Amsterdam
- Done https://d-nb.info/gnd/1050552075 = Hedwig Pauwels (Q117789746): born 1934.08.08; graphic artist
The query I have used is https://w.wiki/ANew; in the list above I have not sent you all the cases, but I have excluded a few for which I was not fully sure because of the substantial lack of other information; to the contrary, for the cases above I am pretty sure. As for the previous ones, the deprecated sex or gender (P21) can be removed afterwards. Thanks in advance, --Epìdosis 09:06, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- P.S. my bot started working this evening; it improves old imperfect references based on GND ID (P227). When it will finish running (it will take 1-3 months depending on how much I will be online this summer) it will be easier to discover other cases of dissent between sex or gender (P21) on Wikidata and Geschlecht in GND. Epìdosis 20:31, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the list. Filmportal is quite challenging and will cause a lot of work:
- 1.408 items with "Unique value" violations.
- If you look at a documentary like Erinnern heißt leben (DDR 1987/1988) you will see dozen of credited people. Many of these still needs to be identified.
- --Kolja21 (talk) 20:52, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Epìdosis: A special case from your query is Agnes Elisabeth Overbeck (Wikipedia) vs. Eugen B. Onegin (GND): transgender & male. GND only gives her/his birth name in the notes. --Kolja21 (talk) 08:40, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- For this case I would suggest sex or gender (P21)trans man (Q2449503). Epìdosis 08:45, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- That would be more precise but deWP is using the Category:Transgender people (Q6063345) so we would need an other source. --Kolja21 (talk) 08:50, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- PS: Feel free to improve it. We don't need to be slave to the categories. --Kolja21 (talk) Kolja21 (talk) 08:53, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- That would be more precise but deWP is using the Category:Transgender people (Q6063345) so we would need an other source. --Kolja21 (talk) 08:50, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- For this case I would suggest sex or gender (P21)trans man (Q2449503). Epìdosis 08:45, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Epìdosis: A special case from your query is Agnes Elisabeth Overbeck (Wikipedia) vs. Eugen B. Onegin (GND): transgender & male. GND only gives her/his birth name in the notes. --Kolja21 (talk) 08:40, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the list. Filmportal is quite challenging and will cause a lot of work:
- @Epìdosis: Any idea what to do with Hedwig (Q19689438), female given name? Correct this item or creating a new one? Hedwig Pauwels (Q117789746) is the rare case where it is used as a male given name. --Kolja21 (talk) 11:18, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Kolja21: I would suggest a new item for male given name; there are some other cases like Andrea. Epìdosis 14:07, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- Done Thanks. I've created Hedwig (Q126680999): male given name. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:21, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Kolja21: I would suggest a new item for male given name; there are some other cases like Andrea. Epìdosis 14:07, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
Altino
editHi! I don't usually ask you about places, but working on User:Anna Clara Maniero Azzolini/Altinum I came to something strange: https://d-nb.info/gnd/4597163-8 has the coordinates of Altino (Q51179): Italian comune in Central Italy, but the connected publication clearly regards the (more famous) Roman city of Altinum (Q441542): national museum near Venice, corresponding to modern Altino (Q1773579): human settlement in Quarto d'Altino, Metropolitan City of Venice, Veneto, Italy. Could you have a look? Thanks, --Epìdosis 22:15, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- The expert for places is @Wurgl: Kannst du das überprüfen? --Kolja21 (talk) 22:23, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- I would guess the ancient city. Coordinates seem to come from some bot. When you look at https://swb.bsz-bw.de/DB=2.104/SET=1/TTL=1/CMD?retrace=0&trm_old=&ACT=SRCHA&IKT=2999&SRT=RLV&TRM=4597163-8 you see at the bottom "Untergeordnete GND-Sätze" and there you see only(?) items near Venice. I will send a mail to DNB, but the answer may take some time. --Wurgl (talk) 05:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Epìdosis: Sometimes they are unbelievable fast, take a look at https://d-nb.info/gnd/4597163-8 --Wurgl (talk) 14:57, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- I would guess the ancient city. Coordinates seem to come from some bot. When you look at https://swb.bsz-bw.de/DB=2.104/SET=1/TTL=1/CMD?retrace=0&trm_old=&ACT=SRCHA&IKT=2999&SRT=RLV&TRM=4597163-8 you see at the bottom "Untergeordnete GND-Sätze" and there you see only(?) items near Venice. I will send a mail to DNB, but the answer may take some time. --Wurgl (talk) 05:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Sebastiano Viotti
editHi! I have a case that was reported me, very precisely, by @Gentile64:. So https://d-nb.info/gnd/1074962788 has attributed to an Italian theologian the dates 1921-2011 on the basis of Internet, very probably page 48 of this document; on the basis of this GND I created (through a larger import) Sebastiano Viotti (Q113831720): Italian priest (1921-2011); it turns out that the Italian priest born in 1921 and died in 2011 mentioned in that document was not the Italian theologian, who was much younger, since he was born in 1943 and died in 2023 - for him I have just created Sebastiano Viotti (Q126898677): Italian Salesian priest and theologian (1943-2023). Could you correct the dates of GND and move it to the new item? I would keep the other for the priest 1921-2011, since we have a few sources about him, and it's anyway useful to avoid (hopefully) future confusions. --Epìdosis 19:12, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Epìdosis: I've corrected the vital information and marked the Index Theologicus as conflation (hopefully solved automatically). --Kolja21 (talk) 19:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Marie Hein
editDer Eintrag "Hein, Marie" GND:135932831 - dazu Marie Hein (Q94738551): Austrian explorer, collector and ethnographer (1853-1943) - scheint sich auf dieselbe Marie Hein zu beziehen wie Marie Hein (Q51880190): Austrian explorer, collector and ethnographer (1853-1943). Allerdings enthält GND:135932831 den Vermerk "Mitarbeiterin und Reisegefährtin Wilhelm von Humboldts" was nicht zu Marie Hein (Q51880190): Austrian explorer, collector and ethnographer (1853-1943) passt. Möglicherweise handelt es sich nur um eine fehlerhafte Angabe die tatsächlich "Mitarbeiterin und Reisegefährtin Wilhelm Heins [Ehemann von Marie Hein, vgl. Wilhelm Hein (Q2573103): Austrian ethnologist and orientalist (1861-1903)]" lauten sollte? Danke! SimonEUV (talk) 05:36, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Done Danke für den Hinweis! Forschungsreise + Wilhelm = Wilhelm von Humboldt; da hat jemand geträumt. --Kolja21 (talk) 21:23, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
GND
editIn reference to your comment about GND in revision https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q61749519&oldid=prev&diff=2199081034 the issue was that the "GND identifier" (P227) didn't "know" about deutsche-biographie.de's use of GND identifiers, I have added the relevant regex to its "URL match pattern", thanks for the spot Back ache (talk) 15:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the improvement. The regex issue is beyond my technical knowledge. Kolja21 (talk) 16:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Henri de Bizemont
editHenri de Bizemont (Q126193451): French geographer (1839-1899) seems clearly born in 1839; no source for the 1829 in https://d-nb.info/gnd/132386194. Thanks! --Epìdosis 16:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done Now fixed. I assume "born 1829" was taken from the National Library of Chile. --Kolja21 (talk) 23:35, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Myron Rush
editIn hebis I see a misuse of https://d-nb.info/gnd/112301150 = Myron Rush (Q127425860): psychologist and consultant; How communist states change their rulers, The international situation and Soviet foreign policy : key reports by Soviet leaders from the revolution to the present and other publications of international studies (not psychology) are clearly by Myron Rush (Q54263586): American military personnel. Thanks! --Epìdosis 14:11, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Epìdosis, I can't correct hebis but I've add GND 170206963 for the military personnel/political scientist. --Kolja21 (talk) 06:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Vincenzo Montecalvi
edithttps://d-nb.info/gnd/1021287164 (= Vincenzo Montecalvi (Q94869933): Italian philosopher (1573-1637)) has a clearly wrong birth year 1543, with no source; it should be 1573. Thanks, --Epìdosis 16:22, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done GND created by Deutsches Dokumentationszentrum für Kunstgeschichte - Bildarchiv Foto Marburg (Q860570). Thanks for the hint. --Kolja21 (talk) 06:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Marguerite Fiévez
editA wrong, and with no sources, death year (1967; should be 2000) in https://d-nb.info/gnd/1147211337 = Marguerite Fiévez (Q113731811): no description. Thanks, --Epìdosis 17:40, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done Thanks again! 1967 was the year when cardinal Joseph Cardijn died. I have revised the data record accordingly. --Kolja21 (talk) 07:19, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Jean-Michel Poffet
edithttps://d-nb.info/gnd/172310504 I'm unsure about the link with Iran (I find no clue online); was it maybe Israel, since he was active in Jerusalem? Thanks, --Epìdosis 17:10, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done Obvious typo. I've change XB-IR to XB-IL (Israel). Thanks for the note. --Kolja21 (talk) 18:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- PS: Jean-Michel Poffet (Q66596153) is Swiss, not French. (I've changed the description to "sacerdote e teologo svizzero".) --Kolja21 (talk) 18:54, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Double 375a
edithttps://d-nb.info/gnd/143226231 I see both 1 and 2 in field 375a, obviously only 1 (male) is correct and 2 (female) should be removed. Thanks! --Epìdosis 11:08, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Other cases: --Epìdosis 11:17, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- https://d-nb.info/gnd/135497027
https://d-nb.info/gnd/119362252no here having both seems intentional- https://d-nb.info/gnd/135045657
- Never seen something like that. There should be only one field for the gender. In the cases of Kellermann, Lundgren and Hahn I've put both on "male". --Kolja21 (talk) 11:30, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Others: https://d-nb.info/gnd/135465281, https://d-nb.info/gnd/135398258. Whilst https://d-nb.info/gnd/119348144 is just wrong. Epìdosis 12:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done --Kolja21 (talk) 12:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Agar Brugiavini
edithttps://d-nb.info/gnd/129795968 1992 is impossible as birth date; it should be 1958 = Agar Brugiavini (Q41805461): Italian economist (1958-). Thanks, --Epìdosis 12:34, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done Thanks. A common mistake: floruit 1992 (LCAuth) added to the wrong field. --Kolja21 (talk) 13:51, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Some strange 404 errors
editHi! In a few items like Princess Akiko of Mikasa (Q2379961) and Aubert de Cambrai (Q2870589) (edit: and Johannes Gerloff (Q1399587)) I have obtained strange 404 erros for the GND IDs, despite the fact that they are normally present in VIAF clusters. Have you any hint why these happen? Are they just temporary errors? Should they be reported? Thanks, --Epìdosis 13:57, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- We have had several of these cases. It's a technical problem with the old DNB catalog. The new version has not yet been released. I've left a note at the item and filed a report. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:28, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for the clear explanation. I hope the new version of the DNB catalog will be released soon. I will report you similar cases when I find them. Epìdosis 14:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Wurgl: Do you remember these cases? Should we make a list? I've reported only the first two. BTW: The GND-Webformular shows three different error messages:
- korrektes Unterfeld (z.B. '$g') fehlt in 'Andere Namen - Vornamen/Nachname' vor '$T01'
- korrektes Unterfeld (z.B. '$v') fehlt in 'Andere Namen - Vornamen/Nachname' vor '$lof Arras-Cambrai'
- Subfeld '$4' in 'Relationierte Zeit' ist inhaltlich nicht korrekt
- --Kolja21 (talk) 14:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hallo @Unukorno: Du hast mehr Zugriffsrechte. Kannst du die oben genannten Datensätze, die im DNB-Katalog nicht angezeigt werden, neu abspeichern? Ich weiß nicht, wo genau der Fehler liegt, aber irgendein Feld wird nicht regelkonform ausfüllt sein. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:53, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Another one: Friedrich Schütze (Q1462169). Epìdosis 15:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have no idea. The latest dump from end of February contains all 4 Ids.
- There is a new interface, which works for the last Example mentioned by Epìdosis https://katalog.dnb.de/DE/list.html?key=all&key.GROUP=1&t=1066479690&sortD=-dat&sortA=bez&pr=0&v=plist&submit.x=0&submit.y=0 and this new beta version of the public web-interface works for the other three too? --Wurgl (talk) 15:18, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Shorter link works too: Example Princess Akiko of Mikasa (Q2379961) https://katalog.dnb.de/DE/list.html?t=1066234582 --Wurgl (talk) 15:20, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- +1. This is the new catalog I was talking about. I don't know if the beta phase will end this year. They've been testing it for months now. --Kolja21 (talk) 15:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wrote a mail to my contact person. Now lets wait a few days. --Wurgl (talk) 15:37, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for looking into this; and I'm looking forward to the new catalogue. Another case: Leslie Browne (Q451916). --Epìdosis 20:40, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strange. All IDs start with 1066. Just Coincidence? --Wurgl (talk) 20:52, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe not: another case in Amanda Pays (Q454048), also this starts with 1066. Epìdosis 21:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC) Another one also starting in 1066: Tanya Neufeldt (Q1359763). I will go on tomorrow. --Epìdosis 21:58, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- An old case from October 2016. The ID starts with 1185: GND 118575546 (fixed). --Kolja21 (talk) 02:25, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Again with 1066: Christopher Allport (Q2432123). Epìdosis 08:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- And again 1066: Horst De la Croix (Q106663517). My bot (EpidòseosBot) is stumbling in them one by one ... Epìdosis 09:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Again with 1066: Christopher Allport (Q2432123). Epìdosis 08:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- An old case from October 2016. The ID starts with 1185: GND 118575546 (fixed). --Kolja21 (talk) 02:25, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe not: another case in Amanda Pays (Q454048), also this starts with 1066. Epìdosis 21:06, 20 July 2024 (UTC) Another one also starting in 1066: Tanya Neufeldt (Q1359763). I will go on tomorrow. --Epìdosis 21:58, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strange. All IDs start with 1066. Just Coincidence? --Wurgl (talk) 20:52, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for looking into this; and I'm looking forward to the new catalogue. Another case: Leslie Browne (Q451916). --Epìdosis 20:40, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Shorter link works too: Example Princess Akiko of Mikasa (Q2379961) https://katalog.dnb.de/DE/list.html?t=1066234582 --Wurgl (talk) 15:20, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Another one: Friedrich Schütze (Q1462169). Epìdosis 15:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hallo @Unukorno: Du hast mehr Zugriffsrechte. Kannst du die oben genannten Datensätze, die im DNB-Katalog nicht angezeigt werden, neu abspeichern? Ich weiß nicht, wo genau der Fehler liegt, aber irgendein Feld wird nicht regelkonform ausfüllt sein. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:53, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Wurgl: Do you remember these cases? Should we make a list? I've reported only the first two. BTW: The GND-Webformular shows three different error messages:
- OK, thanks for the clear explanation. I hope the new version of the DNB catalog will be released soon. I will report you similar cases when I find them. Epìdosis 14:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
List of problematic 1066... IDs
edit- Done Princess Akiko of Mikasa (Q2379961), GND 1066234582 (newly saved)
- Done Aubert de Cambrai (Q2870589), GND 1066488894 (newly saved)
- Done Johannes Gerloff (Q1399587), GND 1066612641 (newly saved)
- Done Friedrich Schütze (Q1462169), GND 1066479690 (newly saved)
- Done Leslie Browne (Q451916), GND 106641498X (newly saved)
- Done Amanda Pays (Q454048), GND 1066709343 (newly saved)
- Done Tanya Neufeldt (Q1359763), GND 1066711925 (newly saved)
- Done Christopher Allport (Q2432123), GND 1066711143 (newly saved)
- Done Semyon Belsky (Q4083314), GND 1066491445 (newly saved)
- Done Horst De la Croix (Q106663517), GND 1066291411 (newly saved)