Property talk:P1533

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Azertus in topic Inverse property?

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family name identical to this given name
last name that is the same as a given first name. Use on items for given names
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Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Kane (Q43400770), Tullus (Q2409346), Primus (Q2611153)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Single value, SPARQL
Type “given name (Q202444): item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “given name (Q202444)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Type Q202444, SPARQL
Value type “family name (Q101352): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value family name (Q101352) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Value type Q101352, SPARQL
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410), family name (Q101352): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P31, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Conflicts with “given name (P735): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P735, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “family name (P734): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P734, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “father (P22): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P22, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “mother (P25): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P25, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “stepparent (P3448): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P3448, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “sibling (P3373): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P3373, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “spouse (P26): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P26, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “unmarried partner (P451): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P451, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “child (P40): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P40, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “relative (P1038): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P1038, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “original language of film or TV show (P364): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P364, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “official website (P856): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P856, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Conflicts with “is a list of (P360): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P360, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “GeoNames ID (P1566): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P1566, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “MusicBrainz artist ID (P434): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P434, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “canonization status (P411): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P411, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Conflicts with “occupation (P106): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Conflicts with P106, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Item “language of work or name (P407): Items with this property should also have “language of work or name (P407)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Item P407, search, SPARQL
Item “native label (P1705): Items with this property should also have “native label (P1705)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Item P1705, SPARQL
Property “native label (P1705)” declared by target items of “family name identical to this given name (P1533): If [item A] has this property with value [item B], [item B] is required to have property “native label (P1705)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Target required claim P1705, SPARQL, SPARQL (by value)
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1533#Entity types
 
Missing statements (male given name)
add P1533 (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item ?fam WHERE { ?fam wdt:P31 wd:Q101352 . MINUS { ?fam ^ wdt:P1533 [] } ?fam rdfs:label ?fn . FILTER(lang(?fn)="en") ?item rdfs:label ?fn . ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q12308941 . FILTER( ?item != ?fam ) ?fam wdt:P282 wd:Q8229 . ?item wdt:P282 wd:Q8229 . FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q4167410 } FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?fam wdt:P31 wd:Q4167410 } } LIMIT 50
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1533#Missing statements (male given name)
 
Missing statements (female given name)
add P1533 (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item ?fam WHERE { ?fam wdt:P31 wd:Q101352 . MINUS { ?fam ^ wdt:P1533 [] } ?fam rdfs:label ?fn . FILTER(lang(?fn)="en") ?item rdfs:label ?fn . ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q11879590 . FILTER( ?item != ?fam ) ?fam wdt:P282 wd:Q8229 . ?item wdt:P282 wd:Q8229 . FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q4167410 } FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?fam wdt:P31 wd:Q4167410 } } LIMIT 50
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1533#Missing statements (female given name)
 
Missing statements (given name)
add P1533 (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item ?fam WHERE { ?fam wdt:P31 wd:Q101352 . MINUS { ?fam ^ wdt:P1533 [] } ?fam rdfs:label ?fn . FILTER(lang(?fn)="en") ?item rdfs:label ?fn . ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q202444 . FILTER( ?item != ?fam ) ?fam wdt:P282 wd:Q8229 . ?item wdt:P282 wd:Q8229 . FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q4167410 } FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?fam wdt:P31 wd:Q4167410 } } LIMIT 50
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1533#Missing statements (given name)
 
Missing statements (unisex given name)
add P1533 (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item ?fam WHERE { ?fam wdt:P31 wd:Q101352 . MINUS { ?fam ^ wdt:P1533 [] } ?fam rdfs:label ?fn . FILTER(lang(?fn)="en") ?item rdfs:label ?fn . ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q3409032 . FILTER( ?item != ?fam ) ?fam wdt:P282 wd:Q8229 . ?item wdt:P282 wd:Q8229 . FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q4167410 } FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?fam wdt:P31 wd:Q4167410 } } LIMIT 50
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1533#Missing statements (unisex given name)
 

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Constraint:Unique value disputed

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An example at Talk:Q18177306#Property:P1533 questions validity of this constraint, because it is clear that the discussed issue may affect more items in the future. I prefer keeping the constraint and removing redundant claims. Petr Matas 11:27, 18 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

I agree to keep it, but I'd just add exceptions to the list for such. --- Jura 11:31, 18 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
I think that adding exceptions is unsystematic, because the list will probably get quite longer in the future. Your opposition to removing useful (though redundant) information is valid, but I think that getting rid of the exceptions outweights it. Petr Matas 11:50, 18 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
If the lists gets long, one could just create a new constraint that handles it better. Constraints are just approximations that help us improve the data. They are not necessarily ideal for every property.
BTW, I don't think you addressed the points raised on Talk:Q18177306#Property:P1533. --- Jura 07:13, 19 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
I did not address them because I consider them valid. I also agree that having only a few exceptions is not a problem. However, may we mark the constraint as mandatory in that case? Petr Matas 09:10, 19 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
Ok. I think one can't currently combine "mandatory=true" with a list of exceptions. --- Jura 14:42, 19 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
I've just looked at the template doc, where I found a sample, which combines them. I'd really like to make the constraint mandatory. Petr Matas 15:21, 19 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
This is how you can get the corresponding family name of Andrea (Q18177306) even if it is mentioned only in its superclass: Query: tree[18177306[279] and claim[1533] &props=1533]. Petr Matas 22:26, 19 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Aligned English labels

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The intermix of first and given between the main label and this can be a little confusing, so I have changed this to match the main "given name".  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:06, 4 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Inverse property?

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I'm wondering why there is no inverse property for this one, for linking from family names to given names. Should I propose one?

  Notified participants of WikiProject Names Jon Harald Søby (talk) 09:48, 15 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

I don't see why we would need one? What would a reverse property do that we can't do right now? (except creating more work, that is). --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 18:30, 15 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Harmonia Amanda: In automatic infoboxes for family names, you could link automatically to the identical first names. I don't know how you can do that currently? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 09:48, 16 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
Well with lua? You ask for the item(s) linked to this item using this property, instead of asking for the value of the property. It should work perfectly? --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 17:36, 16 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Harmonia Amanda: Where, how? Special:Whatlinkshere and queries are not available through Lua yet! -- Innocent bystander (talk) 07:10, 17 August 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Jon Harald Søby: I don't see why we shouldn't! I say propose it. There's lots of precedence for symmetrical properties and automated editing would lighten most of the extra work load. --Azertus (talk) 13:16, 12 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
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