Talk:Caucasus

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The Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia articles claim to belong to Eastern Europe.

WikiPedia:Caucasus says "The Caucasus region is geographically a part of Asia ... but historically and culturally it is often seen as a part of Europe".

Either the Asia article is incorrect, or else the Armenia/Azerbaijan/Georgia articles need to be amended.

For now, I've removed Russia and the Caucasus from the Asia article. And I've redirected this article to Russia_and_the Caucasus.

I think that we have a geographical hierarchy policy, which means the Caucasus are part of Asia. The article should say it is part of Europe, culturally. Perhaps a cultural hierarchy is also needed? -- (WT-en) Huttite 15:12, 1 Jan 2006 (EST)

so Armenia/Azerbaijan/Georgia need to be removed from the Eastern Europe article?

No they can stay there because of the cultural association, though mention that it is cultural or political and not geographical. -- (WT-en) Huttite 16:51, 1 Jan 2006 (EST)

Trans-Caucasus Itinerary

I am interested in assisting in creating a 12-15 day trans-Caucasus itinerary with Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Armenia. Would anyone be interested in assisting me with this? (WT-en) Cupcakecommander 02:07, 31 July 2007 (EDT)

I think that would be a wonderful and very useful itinerary. I have a lot of experience with this sort of trip and would gladly help out. I am quite busy at present, though, with the establishment of a Russian language version of Wikivoyage, so I won't be able to turn my full attention to this for a little while. --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 02:14, 31 Ju00ly 2007 (EDT)

Georgia-Russia border is open again

Check this: http://en.rian.ru/russia/20100302/158061211.html apparently the border is open again... can someone verify it? more sources? I think we should update the articles. (WT-en) Daniel32708 15:45, 7 March 2010 (EST)

It definitely has (just) reopened, but only the crossing on the Georgian Military Highway. The one thing I haven't been able to confirm is to whom it is open—limiting border crossings to CIS nationals has been pretty common in the post-Soviet Caucasus. Regardless, I imagine dealing with the Russian officials at that crossing would be hair-raising... rough part of the Federation! --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 02:08, 8 March 2010 (EST)

Caucasus: geo political or geographical?

I'd like to ask, is this article about geography of the Caucasus or about geopolitics? 91.76.222.221 18:26, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Neither; it's about traveling to that region and the practical realities of doing so. LtPowers (talk) 19:49, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Final paragraph

@Ikan Kekek, I rewrote and moved the last paragraph from the intro due to the following reasons. First, Caucasus is not just the Greater Caucasus Mountains but also Lesser Caucasus mountains. If we include one, then we should probably include the other, which turns into a lengthy discussion about mountains that's best explained in its own section, so I created one. Secondly, it is not accurate to flat-out say that they these countries are "geographically considered part of Western Asia". Even by most restrictive definitions, such as the geography section of CIA Factbook, Georgia and Azerbaijan have at least parts of their territory in geographic Europe, as the two countries extend a little north beyond the Greater Caucasus mountains. Lastly, saying that they "have much in common with the neighboring Russian North Caucasus" is an inaccurate generalization. Neither Georgia nor Armenia has any ethnic, linguistic, religious, or political ties to the North Caucasus. Perhaps only Azerbaijan, and even that is largely due to religion.--Damianmx (talk) 12:34, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining. Much appreciated. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:01, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Can we remove this paragraph?

I came across this paragraph in the "Understand > Culture" section:

"Armenia and Georgia are suffering from economic recession due to an economic blockade of Armenia by Azerbaijan and Turkey and of Georgia by Russia. Oil-rich Azerbaijan is essentially an old-fashioned dictatorship where the oil wealth is still not flowing to the entire population but only to a small elite."

Now let's see, GDP numbers show that Armenian and Georgian economies grew enormously from 2009 to 2019 (75% for Georgia and 50% for Armenia), hardly something I would call "recession". The comment about Azerbaijan sounds more like a subjective political statement than a verifiable fact - the fact, Azerbaijan is similar to Armenia in both GDP per capita and inequality-adjusted HDI, respectively a good representation of a country's wealth and a good representation of a country's social conditions. And regardless, this shouldn't be in the "Culture" section.

--Krauser levyl (talk) 02:02, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Go ahead and remove it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:51, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Banner

Hey, I replaced the banner, but it sounds like I should have solicited feedback first to avoid stepping on toes. I think the old one was kind of desert anywheresville looking and not representative of the mostly lush and mountainous landscapes of this region (it's kind of the most beautiful region of the world). The new one is representative of the prettiest and most interesting landscapes and culture throughout all of the North Caucasus, Georgia, and Azerbaijan, if not so much Armenia. Anyway, here's the old and the new. Travelwriter1000 (talk) 22:49, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

• New banner – the new one gives it more a feel SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:52, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

• The new banner is much more attractive. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:54, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

• New banner, definitely. The old one looks like an unidentifiable expanse of muddy terrain, and was bothering me for a long time now. Vidimian (talk) 23:34, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
• New banner. Ground Zero (talk) 12:42, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Linking

Wikivoyage:Internal links says: "You also don't need to link an article every time it's mentioned in the text. For most travel topics, linking just once per article is sufficient, unless the references are widely separated in the text." I've removed a bunch of repeated links to make the article less cluttered. Ground Zero (talk) 12:42, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the fixes :) LGTM now. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:45, 11 September 2021 (UTC)