Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Doyu

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: Kept--Mdd (talk) 19:31, 27 June 2018 (UTC).[reply]

Doyu

This and other pages about virtually-unknown Japanese poets (who don't qualify for a Wikipedia article) created by User:Risto hot sir based on a single source (Yoel Hoffmann's Japanese Death Poems) clog up the Japanese poets category, which should include only truly notable poets, and taken together probably constitute a copyright violation (close to 100 Wikiquote pages, everything taken from 1 book). I think all those pages should be deleted, not just Doyu, of course. ~ DanielTom (talk) 14:55, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Vote closes: 15:00, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Keep - Many of these poems have lasted hundreds of years. This book exists - check ISBN! The Japanese people haven't written that these poets are unnotable. What means "virtually-unknown"? There are evidences - like the statue in Kobe - that Hoffmann has done excellent work. And we at Wikiquote should be proud having articles Wikipedia and Google don't have no idea! --Risto hot sir (talk) 21:27, 9 February 2018 (UTC) - I don't understand Japanese writing, but many persons do. They could search at Japanese Google. --Risto hot sir (talk) 21:54, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This appears to be a real person, whose poetry is really still remembered. BD2412 T 04:17, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Even if the quote is verifiable, I prefer to see the original Japanese and the translation posted at Multilingual Wikiquote to be opened per m:Talk:Wikiquote#Why_a_separate_project?.--Jusjih (talk) 02:55, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - This and practically all articles under Category:Japanese poets are copied one-on-one from Japanese Death Poems. Compiled by Yoel Hoffmann. ISBN 978-0-8048-3179-6, which is a violation of copyrights on collections/compilations and of copyright on translations. _W^\|/_haledad (Talk to me) 20:27, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You're a little late.--Risto hot sir (talk) 20:37, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No mod has closed this yet. _W^\|/_haledad (Talk to me) 20:44, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can additional quotes be found from other sources? BD2412 T 21:00, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Y Done additional quotes present and added to the article. -- Mdd (talk) 23:25, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. See my discussions here, here, and here J.A.R.N.Y.🗣 01:05, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment In the past days I have studied the question if additional quotes can be found of the series of Japanese poets and now reported back at (almost) all nominations. It seems to me Yoel Hoffmann's Japanese Death Poems contains both in English websites virtually-unknown Japanese poets (from the 17th to 20th century) and older more known poets and poems. I would deleted the first set because of the current lack of notability here, and keep the rest.

Furthermore, I doubt DanielToms suggestion that the work "taken together probably constitute a copyright violation." On the one hand, most articles only show one poem (with an average of about 35 words). On the other hand, taken together, Hoffmann's book contains 62.000 words, and with WQ:LOQ of 1.25% (some 775 words) still over 20 poems could be added to one document. Also the 100 articles are a subset of the 31.000 Wikiquote articles, but don't constitute a single document. -- Mdd (talk) 01:06, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.