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Template:Aftermath of the Cuban Revolution

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 07:08, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Aftermath of the Cuban Revolution (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused. The articles in the category of the same name that relate between Cuba and the United States, which a majority of them do, can be better used on Template:Cuba–United States relations. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:40, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:38, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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2020 and 2021 Film award ceremonies

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:02, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2020 Film award ceremonies (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2021 Film award ceremonies (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All the award ceremonies listed in the templates have their own navigational boxes. There shouldn't be navboxes for listing film ceremonies held each year. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:28, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The individual navboxes are for ceremonies and categories belonging to one award, hence irrelevant, and listing all the ceremonies in one year is a fantastic way to keep track when some award ceremonies are numbered, some listed by year held, and some listed by the year of films being awarded (i.e. previous year) - the inconsistency in the industry makes this really useful. Kingsif (talk) 21:35, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Irrelevant? They are not irrelevant. There is no inconsistency on how the awards are listed by the way they honor the previous year, it's done by only a few of them, not the majority. If you search for say 2020 Golden Globes, you'll be linked to the ceremony held in 2020. And disambiguation pages such as 2020 Academy Awards layout which Oscars ceremony you're looking for, the one held in 2020 honoring 2019, or the one held in 2021 honoring 2020. While you have a noble idea, it doesn't work because people mainly search for the award show through the respective award navboxes or by simply using the search bar. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:45, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Of course they're irrelevant, you're trying to compare a navbox that lists years of ceremonies for a single award - i.e. organized by award, not year, so you can click through all the years of Oscars but not find other ceremonies for a given year to quickly be linked to and see what different groups awarded from the same selection of films. Not everyone knows what they're searching for, and going through searches and then disambig links for each of the ceremonies they may or may not know exist is a lot more clicks than a navbox. Kingsif (talk) 23:21, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm leaning delete here. This collection of awards is clearly WP:NPOV and very US-centric. Expanding it to include all film ceremonies at Category:Film awards by country will make the template huge and I'd oppose the creation of any such template. As such, I don't see how we can keep this template around. Gonnym (talk) 10:22, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to open discussion on improving bias. Ceremonies without articles have been removed, which will keep it trim, but does retain that bias (more US ceremonies have articles than not). I don't see a massive issue with that, though - the navbox doesn't have to aim to be more neutral than WP, the aim of navboxes is to link to existing articles. If I'm reading the Oscars page and want to see if the same films got awards at other ceremonies, that's all we need. Kingsif (talk) 23:21, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I pointed to a category which has articles, a lot of them. Only Category:American film awards alone has 65 different award categories. Navbox are not helpful when they are too big, see WP:NAVBOX. Gonnym (talk) 10:25, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

delete, better to navigate by Category:2020 film awards and Category:2021 film awards which doesn't require updating other than adding the category to the articles. Frietjes (talk) 15:20, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: One can click on the respective categories at the bottom of each ceremony to see every film award for that year.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 20:04, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Constituency link

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Constlk. The name can be changed in the usual manner (through bold moves, technical requests, or the requested moves process). (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 23:55, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Constituency link (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Constlk (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Constituency link with Template:Constlk.
Effectively the same template. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 19:23, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both as insufficiently complicated to warrant a template. Failing that, merge per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:38, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If kept then rename to {{UK constituency link}} and merge; the UK isn't the only place in the world with constituencies. -- 67.70.27.180 (talk) 02:44, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- If it remains unrenamed, then it should be reworked to handle all major constituency assemblies in the entire world, just like how infobox settlement handles all types of jurisidcitions. -- 67.70.27.180 (talk) 02:45, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Merge, having regard to a long recent discussion. Charles Matthews (talk) 05:10, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Indefinite article

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The result of the discussion was redirect to Template:A or an. This can just redirect to {{a or an}} without any negative consequences. I don't think that needs a TfD discussion as the usage etc will remain identical, it's just a straightforward improvement to Indefinite article. (non-admin closure) User:GKFX^talk 20:45, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Indefinite article (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to Template:A or an but much less capable of dealing with words like European. (a European vs a European). User:GKFX^talk 17:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Uw-paid4

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 June 19. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:03, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Uw-paid4 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

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Template:Uw-accessdate2

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 June 19. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:04, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Uw-accessdate2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

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