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The result of the discussion was No Consensus -FASTILY (TALK) 03:15, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:PBA All-Star National Team 2000 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

It's a navbox that (a) is a burden at the bottom of every page due its auto-open state, (b) is not in a family of similar navboxes, (c) does not link to any article pertaining to its purpose (this only links to the Philippine Basketball Association, which is tenuously related), and (d) it's not an honor worthy of a navbox (WP:NENAN). Jrcla2 (talk) 23:09, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete -FASTILY (TALK) 06:07, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Dab button (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This little-used undocumented template doesn't seem to provide any useful functionality; it just inserts a confusing graphic into the text. Only used in 45 articles, it appears. Dicklyon (talk) 21:14, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete -FASTILY (TALK) 03:15, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:LOC-image-ammem (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Recommend deletion. This was created in 2009 and is unused Kumioko (talk) 14:10, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete -FASTILY (TALK) 03:16, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Deuce (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aron "Deuce" Erlichman this artist is not independently notable. RichardOSmith (talk) 11:16, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete not only is the artist not notable, but this navbox wouldn't really help in navigating even if he were notable. It has only two blue links. The rest is just a sea of normal text. — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 19:45, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't delete This artist has released an official mixtape, has over 100,000 likes on Facebook, verified twitter account, a professionally run website, has performed/recorded with many notable artists, has an upcoming (signed) album to be released later this year, is signed to 10th St Entertainment (Papa Roach, Motley Crue, Blondie, Buckcherry, etc) and also played at Epicenter 2010 alongside huge acts, including; Eminem, Papa Roach, Blink-182, Rise Against and more. There's just some of the notable things Deuce has done as a solo artist, excluding the fact that he was also the front-man, lead singer, lyricist and producer for an extremely sucessfull six-piece rap-rock band. TrueBlue9LIVES (talk) 02:14, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete not about commonly called things named "Deuce". And main article was removed. 76.65.128.132 (talk) 05:14, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait until AfDs are over. If they are deleted then this template is useless and should be also deleted. Otherwise keep. mabdul 12:12, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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NATO Army warrant officer templates

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn -FASTILY (TALK) 05:58, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Ranks and Insignia of NATO Armies/WO/Poland (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ranks and Insignia of NATO Armies/WO/Slovakia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ranks and Insignia of NATO Armies/WO/Italy (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ranks and Insignia of NATO Armies/WO/Greece (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ranks and Insignia of NATO Armies/WO/Romania (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ranks and Insignia of NATO Air Forces/WO/Blank (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All these templates are unused and have no possibility of being used as the ranks they describe are in the OR (other ranks) pay grades of NATO, not the WO (Warrant Officers) pay grades. The images in the templates have already been duplicated at the OR ranks templates where they will stay permanently. Officer781 (talk) 08:34, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know but certainly it could be made to be incorporated. Give me time and I can make this work. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 17:10, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Actually, US warrant officer rank wasn't listed at all so I found it at here and added them. Warrant officers always rank above enlisted and below officer (or are Equivalent). I will look into the latest version of the STANAG to clarify exactly what the relationship is but even without that these are not considered among OR ranks in their native military. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 18:00, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
User:Officer781 reverted my edit. These templates has a purpose even though User:Officer781 removes them without adequate discussion. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 22:33, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed them because on the talk page there have already been calls to move the pics to the OR ranks category and then removed (which is why they weren't there earlier. They were removed prior to re-addition which was already discussed on the talk page: Talk:Ranks and insignia of NATO armies officers). We need to discuss this here before they would be added back if so decided. This discussion here has implications because many other countries, or almost every country, has warrant officers, and we need to decide either to not include them at all in the WO templates above, or include all of them in these WO templates for a consistent ranking across every country. For the latter, we may not know which ranks go in which pay grade (the OR ranks) since we are no longer following STANAG 2116. My edits were not personal, if you took them to be, I apologise.--Officer781 (talk) 05:28, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As per the NATO - STANAG 2116 document [2] Oficer781 is right, and I agree with him. --Nicola Romani (talk) 09:16, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The templates have a purpose at Warrant officer article. I will agree that a NATO WO classification is flawed I intend to change the structure of the entire rank insignia template series so a deletion is not necessarily. I will speedy delete mark unused stuff afterwards. Please close this as a keep for now so that I do not have to deal with the rather annoying "deletion" notice on the template -- A Certain White Cat chi? 01:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
hmm. I am in favour of making all the countries' warrant officers put together to show their distinction against other NCOs and enlisted personnel. Will retract my deletion proposal.--Officer781 (talk) 06:16, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was Delete -FASTILY (TALK) 03:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2011–11 West Coast Conference men's basketball standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused table, unlikely to be used (see name of template) Bulwersator (talk) 08:15, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:2011 X soccer standings condensed

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The result of the discussion was Delete -FASTILY (TALK) 06:00, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2011 West Coast Conference soccer standings condensed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 Patriot League soccer standings condensed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 Pac-12 soccer standings condensed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 NLL West Division standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 NLL East Division standings (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 MAC soccer standings condensed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 MAAC soccer standings condensed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 Ivy League soccer standings condensed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 Horizon League soccer standings condensed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 Conference USA soccer standings condensed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 Campeonato Carioca Taça Rio Group B table (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 CAA men's soccer standings condensed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 Big West Conference soccer standings condensed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 Big Ten Conference soccer standings condensed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 Big South Conference soccer standings condensed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 Atlantic Soccer Conference standings condensed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 Atlantic Sun soccer standings condensed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused table, unlikely to be used (see name of template) Bulwersator (talk) 08:14, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete -FASTILY (TALK) 06:04, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2011 AFC Champions League Group A (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused table, unlikely to be used (see name of template) Bulwersator (talk) 08:15, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:2011 Adelaide Sevens Pool X

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The result of the discussion was Delete -FASTILY (TALK) 06:04, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2011 Adelaide Sevens Pool A (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 Adelaide Sevens Pool B (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 Adelaide Sevens Pool C (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:2011 Adelaide Sevens Pool D (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused table, unlikely to be used (see name of template) Bulwersator (talk) 08:12, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete -FASTILY (TALK) 06:05, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Welcome to Wikipedia CoI (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Useless and unused, old experiment without results. Von Restorff (talk) 04:13, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Info Some discussion about it exists at Template_talk:Welcome_to_Wikipedia#CoI_version. It was created December-21-2011, so hardly oldfredgandt 05:58, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • That "ongoing discussion" is between you, me, and one other person. The template transclusion count is 0. Feel free to develop it in your userspace. For now the community can use the normal combination of two templates instead of this thing. If you developed it and it becomes useful, please move it back to the template namespace. If the current COI templates are a turnoff they should be improved, COI editors are welcome on Wikipedia (with certain restrictions in some cases). Von Restorff (talk) 09:52, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Or, y'know, they could use the single template {{Welcome-COI}}, which I much prefer to this template. No offense meant, but the template being discussed here just looks like all the major Wikipedia policies were thrown together and then someone added pretty graphics and some punctuation. The COI notice is buried at the very bottom, and the tone of the message goes from oh-happy-happy-joy-joy-Wikipedia-is-a-warm-and-welcoming-place to bad dog! Bad dog!. Try being like that with a puppy, toddler or someone with a COI. Probably not gonna get you very far. {{Welcome-COI}}, on the other hand, is firm but gentle, and keeps an even and consistent tone throughout while saying all the things this template does. If you reply here, please {{lmatb}} — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 20:00, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per my reasoning directly above. — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 20:00, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I wouldn't have said it as strongly as Cymru.lass, but he's pretty much right. The W2W template is pretty large as it is, so adding all the COI stuff looks, at least to me, overwhelming. I like the idea, but I just don't think this template does it effectively. Magister Scientatalk 21:10, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    She. Von Restorff (talk) 06:56, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Eh, I'll let it slide. My real-life name is a guy's name, so I tend to get called sir a lot by dentists and the like until they notice I actually have two X chromosomes :P — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talkcontribs) 07:22, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was Delete -FASTILY (TALK) 06:05, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:European council institutions (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Yet another pointless navigation template. This one risks creating confusion between the Counsil of Europe and the European Union, whilst selectively listing certain institutions (and informal gatherings) of both. — Blue-Haired Lawyer t 20:19, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:49, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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