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Stale New Sasanian Empire Map!

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 – DLommes (talk) 16:04, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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  My map of the Sasanian Empire
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  Example for style
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  Example for style
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  Under construction -- Keeby101
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  1:50m Bathymetry data only, colour adjusted
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  alternate using SRTM_50 relief
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  alternate 2
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  SVG relief attempt by Yug.

Article(s): Sasanian Empire

Request:

I request a much more better version of this map of the Sasanian Empire OR a brand new and more accurate map of the Sasanian Empire to be made altogether. So far, 2 people have complained that my map is not accurate when I personally believe that it is and I have multiple sources to back it up. Which is why I am asking you all for a much more improved version of this map. I have no apps on my computer that can do what you guys can do. There is an ongoing edit war/dispute that has been going on since I became a user on Wikipedia and I have been trying to end it for who knows how long. People have also complained about the color of this map. If you all decide to not improve the map that I linked, then at least make an entirely new map of the Sasanian Empire altogether. One that is as accurate as possible and has a physical/topographic background like how the map that I linked has.-- Keeby101 (talk) 01:00, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Since you've asked about this on the talk page here, and now that I've looked at the extensive discussions and edit-warring over this map, here's the best way forward I can suggest for you.

• Start a new, calm, well thought out discussion on the article talk page for just this purpose, contribute your own position, and let other editors contribute theirs.
• If you can achieve a proper consensus amongst editors as to exactly what this map should show, then link this request to that consensus.

Nobody is likely to spend time creating a map that illustrates one POV side of a talkpage dispute, or try to do their own research to decide what to illustrate, given the extant discussions, but if the talkpage has consensus from editors on details of a new map to include, you have much more chance that someone may devote some time to it. My opinion - take it as you will, but I didn't want you to think you were being completely ignored. Begoon ^talk 06:23, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Alright, I have done exactly as you suggested and a consensus has been reached. We agreed that we would like a new, accurate map of the Sasanian Empire in this type of format: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chasaren.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AchaemenidEmpireTerritorialExpanision.jpg . We would also like to have the map show the territorial evolution of the Sasanian Empire as well, just like how the two maps that I linked on both here and the Sasanian Empire talk page show. Regards! :D Keeby101 (talk) 21:45, 27 August 2013 (UTC) Err..., what consensus, where? I don't see a link to any discussion. If you mean the "discussion" on the article talk page where you just mention this note, and one other editor says "agreed" then that's not consensus for anything at all, and tells us nothing except what we already knew - you'd like a map of something drawn. Because you don't seem to have understood my post, let me try to explain again. The style of, and drawing of, the map, are not an issue - what we need, from a consensus of editors to the article, is a clear specification listing or showing visually the exact countries/areas/places to include in the map (and if you want "evolution" then date ranges and associated territorial areas for the given dates will need specifying too). This is especially important because it is what has been edit warred over, and I cannot ascertain these requirements from any existing discussion with consensus, so this content is what needs to be decided by the editors on that talk page, and not here. We can do the graphics in the format you describe, but there needs to be clear consensus on the map content, before I, or I suspect anyone else, will devote time or resources to it. I realise you are a keen, new editor, and appreciate your wish to add content, but it is far more important to be accurate than quick - so please develop a proper consensus for a full specification, including map content, and then link us to that. Thanks. Begoon talk 02:07, 28 August 2013 (UTC) Alright. I understand now. I will try to get as many users on that talk page as possible to partake in the discussion to reach a consensus. Hopefully a consensus will be reached soon. Regards! :D Keeby101 (talk) 12:40, 28 August 2013 (UTC) Asking for input is fine, but, given the history of the discussions, don't risk annoying other users by canvassing or spamming them, though, if they may not be interested, or have not previously commented on related content - also see WP:CANVASS, and remember there is no deadline - see WP:DEADLINE, so it doesn't hurt to wait for people's comments. Thanks. Begoon talk 12:56, 28 August 2013 (UTC) @Keeby: I overflied the discussion. I just remembered I have a 1hour way to provide you a topographic background. On your part, you should provide a consensual geographical description of the area of interest. The simplest is something like the scan of a trustworthy historical atlas or official history of the middle East such the "The Cambridge Ancient History: Early history of the Middle East", check google image with relevant keywords so you could find something relevant. @Begoon: if you start a map, please keep and share the West, South, East, North border coordinates for your map, so I may produce a relevant _topographic_map.svg background. I would like to try that again. : ] Yug (talk) 15:07, 1 September 2013 (UTC) @Keeby: You are going the right way ! :D Do you know Inkscape then ? Yug (talk) 14:23, 17 September 2013 (UTC) 1. Relief background : There should be ways to increase contrast and the darkness of the blues. Does someone know how to do so in PhotoShop ? 2. Area layers : well done ! that's elegant. I myself do this step in Inkscape, But do it in Photoshop if you feel it better. 3. Icons, Labels, Legend : You could now load your bitmap in Inkscape, then build your legend's icon and styled texts. When nice, then you copy these items accross the map. Once again: do it in Photoshop if you feel it is better for you. Last, you do a good job :) Yug (talk) 14:31, 17 September 2013 (UTC) There's some more contrast and a recolouring of the blues. That's only very quick and rough - I can redo it properly if you confirm that's what you're after (but there's a limit to how much you can boost the jpeg, rather than doing it at source, without it starting to look "forced"). A png might be better if you had that option, as jpegs are lossy, and get artefacts with this manipulation. The ideal way is just to do the relief background alone in photoshop, and add vector layers for colour and legends etc. in Inkscape or Illustrator. Even better if the relief could get vectorised too, but I'm struggling to do GIS bitmap conversions to vector with GDAL - it won't work well for me. The only way to do it properly in one image like this, if you go that way, is in your photoshop psd file - to the original layers. There's a couple of examples in the history of that new file you can look at. This: [4] for instance is full of contrast and bright, but because I only have the jpeg it looks forced with harsh edges. You could do much more to individual layers more successfully with the original source. I do think adding the area layers as vectors can often be better as it can be hard to adjust the relief to get more contrast once the colours are already added, without changing the colours too, and you can avoid the "edge" problems that way too, boosting contrast like this (and selectively adjusting the blues particularly) makes the edges a bit "harsh" - but this will work too, I suppose, if we want to go this way. Where are the borders sourced from? Begoon talk 16:28, 17 September 2013 (UTC) Just for fun I had another play with it today and forced all the relief I could out of it - that's the version I left up. It really does need doing in the original layers to get a good result - because then you'd get rid of by far the worst problem - the horrid stark edges, and jpeg is the worst way to play with this - but it shows you what you *can* get out of it, even if it does end up looking very "forced" and harsh this way - do look at the other versions, though, in the history, and if you want to do it yourself in your master source files in photoshop I can explain what I did, or do it for you to the originals. Oh, I forgot to mention - your 2 "oranges" could do with being less similar, or preferably different colour entirely for one of them. I changed it to a "pinkish" colour in the demo file I've been playing with. Begoon talk 01:09, 18 September 2013 (UTC) @Begoon: 1. Your relief is nicer than Keeby's bitmap. How did you done that ? Could you share your gdal command for the shaded relief ? It works pretty well ! 2. I noticed your "I'm struggling to do GIS bitmap conversions to vector with GDAL". I just made a push in this direction recently, take a look at How to design a topographic map using gdal, topojson, and D3js. Needs Make, Gdal (gdal_calc.py, gdal_polygonize.py), nodejs, topojson, D3js, it then worked pretty well for me on Ubuntu. I advice you to use Codio.com as an online JS IDE. Yug (talk) 09:58, 18 September 2013 (UTC) It is Keeby's bitmap. I just greyscaled it, pumped it full of contrast and sharpness, and overlaid it on the original (in "Overlay" mode) with translucency. No Gdal involved - I just enhanced what's already there in the bitmap in Photoshop. The blues are done by selecting just the blue areas and colour matching them to one of the examples above. I had to do a lot of manual masking of colour areas though, because all I had was the jpeg and no layers - that's why you have all the crappy edges - By spending a long time I could have done it better, but there's no point, because Keeby (or I) can get far better than that result himself in Photoshop from the sources he must have, by processing just the relief layer,much better than mine because he can manipulate just that topographic layer before overlaying colours etc. I've been trying to get Gdal working properly on Windows, because that's where I do my design work, but I'm stuck in dll hell, so an install on my Fedora box is next up - thanks for the tip. Begoon talk 10:37, 18 September 2013 (UTC) Hey guys, been quite busy and haven't been able to respond. I love what you guys are doing with the map! Greatly appreciated! Also, don't forget to add the Aral Sea! Regards! :D Keeby101 (talk) 21:22, 18 September 2013 (UTC) P.S. take a look at the sources that I linked as well as the conversation on the talk page of the article(To which this map is based off of both the sources and the conversation on the articles talk page), but ignore the 19th century sources. Encyclopædia Iranica and quite a few of those book sources that I linked (Except for the 19th century book sources) are pretty accurate. The only thing that I actually got wrong the first time around is that the Sasanians only conquered Central Anatolia, not the whole of Anatolia. That being said, the borders that the map depicts are precisely accurate, unlike the map in the infobox to which the creator of that map HistoryofIran acknowledged, saying that although his isn't very good, it is better than any map Wikimedia Commons has to offer. But not for long! I am certain that everyone will love this map guys! Again I say, thank you so much and much appreciated. Cheers! :) Keeby101 (talk) 21:22, 18 September 2013 (UTC) Ah, reading the talk page I thought the discussion was moving towards using a map proposed by Kathovo for the borders, rather than just the long edit war you had where no consensus was established, which seems to be what you're referring us back to. That doesn't seem to be what we agreed. Still, when you do get time to read and consider the comments here properly, you'll see I'm recommending that the source files be reprocessed for enhancement of the relief, so when you get around to doing that, or providing the source for someone else to do it - the area overlays can easily be altered to a consensual version at that point - so no biggie at this stage. No hurry, as always, just let us know when you've read and considered all the comments and are ready to move on with the work, and we can agree how best to help you. Thanks. Begoon talk 00:10, 19 September 2013 (UTC) Hello again everyone! I read all of the comments and I am starting to understand what you all are talking about to some extent. Begoon, I left a message on your talk page on regards to what you are talking about. Again I say, I sincerely hope I am not frustrating you with this, same goes to you too Yug. Regards! :D Keeby101 (talk) 03:25, 19 September 2013 (UTC) Ok, Keeby, I went back to square one so that you can do it properly. Above you'll see a new png file. That's just the raster psd bathymetry data from NaturalEarth.com (same as you downloaded) for your area of interest, edited by me so the relief is enhanced and the blues recoloured per the examples. Because I went back to the original source file you'll see there are none of the horrid edges we had before, because I could work with the layers provided. I've given it to you as a png because they don't lose quality on resave like jpegs do. You should now be able to re-add your area layers and other semantic layers, using this as your base, background layer. Preferably you'd do this in Inkscape as vector layers from here-in, but if you can't do that you can still use this as a background layer however you do it. If you want help with any of it, just ask. By the time you are done, you'll be an expert. Begoon talk 08:05, 19 September 2013 (UTC) I also put up there an alternate using: http://www.naturalearthdata.com/downloads/50m-raster-data/50m-shaded-relief/ - greyscale shaded relief geoTiff (1:50m) http://www.naturalearthdata.com/downloads/50m-physical-vectors/ - physical vectors (1:50m) (from Natural Earth again), with rivers and lakes added - but be careful, that one uses a different bounding box area to yours, and the projection may be different (this is WGS84/ESPG3857 from QGIS). That's pretty "full on" shaded relief - maybe a bit too much to read your labels - but it's nice, and the contrast could be reduced in a photoshop layer so it might work with good labelling. In the end it's probably a bit much for this map, but worth doing for me, at least to see how I could combine the relief with a Tiff made from the psd data... Begoon talk 10:29, 19 September 2013 (UTC) Oh, and I forgot to mention - you asked how to make your colour overlay areas brighter - in Photoshop, choose a bright colour to start with, then once you've drawn the overlay in a new layer, select that layer, add an adjustment layer for "vibrance". Layer - add adjustment layer - vibrance and be sure to tick the box to clip it to the previous layer. Then you can drag the vibrance/saturation and layer opacity sliders around for that layer till you're happy and nothing else will be affected - just don't overdo it and make the shaded areas look too much like luminous radioactive waste ... Begoon talk 14:30, 19 September 2013 (UTC) @Begoon: you talk again about QGIS, any NSEW bounding box to give me ? Yug (talk) 20:25, 19 September 2013 (UTC) Not for the Photoshop versions, because the GeoData is lost doing it that way, as far as I can tell - it comes as a worldfile in a psd. There's a TFW file, which is how I could place edited items from the psd back in Qgis, by generating a Tiff of the whole thing after editing and placing that - but I think once you crop it in PS it has no way to know the area you crop to generate metadata. I did see a geodata Photoshop plugin, but it's commercial, and I haven't investigated what it can do about metadata. ...but my last one is: <units>meters</units> <extent> <xmin>1481405.78271368518471718</xmin> <ymin>747889.01609149901196361</ymin> <xmax>10545835.66272290982306004</xmax> <ymax>6656199.4288165457546711</ymax> </extent> ... but then I cropped the generated png a bit... One other note (if you don't already know it) - don't be fooled by the lousy "blurry" png thumbnails that Wikimedia software does when looking at the examples above. The jpeg thumbnails look sharper, but the pngs are just rendered poorly by the thumbnailing. I've kept the later versions as png because that's not lossy when edited and re-saved. The final product when finished can be whatever. Begoon talk 02:38, 20 September 2013 (UTC) Hello again everyone! I have made the map, but I have yet to label the cities and make the color overlays brighter. I am having trouble with the layers in general. Photoshop is a bit more difficult than I thought. :( However, I am currently working on figuring out how to do what Begoon told me to do in Photoshop, choose a bright colour to start with, then once you've drawn the overlay in a new layer, select that layer, add an adjustment layer for "vibrance". Layer - add adjustment layer - vibrance and be sure to tick the box to clip it to the previous layer. Then you can drag the vibrance/saturation and layer opacity sliders around for that layer till you're happy and nothing else will be affected. I understand what he is saying, but none of the less, I am having a difficult time trying to do this.. :( Also, I am hesitant to do this because I did the map on the alternate background that has all of the terrain and everything. I am afraid that the bright colors might not show up in some areas I.E. the mountainous areas. Anyway, here is the new map so far: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sasanian_Empire_Territorial_Expansion_%28Final_Product%29.pdf Keeby101 (talk) 17:57, 21 September 2013 (UTC) P.S. Again I say, I hope I am not frustrating you guys. I apologize if I am. Regards. Keeby101 (talk) 17:59, 21 September 2013 (UTC) I'm back after playing with the layers in Photoshop and I am officially convinced that the Khazar map that is posted above as an example was not created in Photoshop. If only I could find out from those German Cartographers what program they used to create the Khazar map. That would be really useful. I thank you guys for all of your effort. I will continue to use the map that you made Begoon: File:Sasanian Empire alternate background.png|alternate using SRTM_50 relief But I will have to use it on a different program because Photoshop is not working out. I need the country that is on the map to look exactly like the Khazar map on regards to the colors to which Photoshop is not capable of doing.. :( Keeby101 (talk) 19:38, 21 September 2013 (UTC) Well Keeby, you're doing really well, but as I said above, the relief on that SRTM_50 might be a bit much. Why don't you share your psd by uploading it somewhere like www.dropbox.com or some other free filesharing service (and give us a link) (I don't think WP can do that for psd files unless someone corrects me) and we'll see what we can do for you... Begoon talk 20:29, 21 September 2013 (UTC) Will do! But, I would like to know what program was used for this map: File:Chasaren.jpg|Example because that would solve a lot of my problems, but I will go to dropbox.com and link the map to ya ok. Keeby101 (talk) 21:14, 21 September 2013 (UTC) Here is the link btw: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zlc843gcovj4g3i/Sasanian%20Empire%20Territorial%20Expansion%20%28Final%20Product%29.pdf As I said before, I would like to know what program was used for the Khazar map that I linked: File:Chasaren.jpg as it would solve many of my problems. Regards. :) Keeby101 (talk) 21:28, 21 September 2013 (UTC) You've linked a pdf. It's the Photoshop document (psd) that we were going to try and help you with that you needed to share with us. As for the Chasaren map, the file description page (File:Chasaren.jpg) tells you it was created with Generic Mapping Tools from http://gmt.soest.hawaii.edu/, and links to the datasets used. There may have been other graphics programs such as Photoshop or GIMP involved in post-processing it - or it may be straight from those tools - I'm not familiar with that toolset. Begoon talk 10:17, 22 September 2013 (UTC) @Keeby: First, I confirm : you do a great job learning all that. Not easy, yet you do it :) Secondly, the software used (GMT + Photoshop, likely) is not relevant. The base/neutral grey seems to be similar. Also, the real question is what were their settings when then made some image processing. Only the map creator knows, and even if you ask him now, it is very likely lost far from the his fresh memory. You have to try around several settings for your relief processing and find "something close". By example, your last maps have a too strong relief (which is what we all LOVE when we start to create reliefs). A relief half way between : 1:50m Bathymetry data only, colour adjusted alternate using SRTM_50 relief should be more elegant, and quite similar to what you want to mirror. Also, it is soon time to know that you have a level in relief processing now similar to the people you want to copy. The question is more : what degree of relief processing to YOU find elegant for an historic map. Yug (talk) 19:24, 22 September 2013 (UTC) @Begoon: Thanks for your digging. Sorry for my wrong assumption, I neeed geocoordinates in degrees... could you get them ? then I will output a green/brown/white topographic SVG. Yug (talk) 19:24, 22 September 2013 (UTC) Ok, I'm a bit of a newbie to QGIS, but as far as I can tell, the bounding box edges were: N: 55.3, S: 2.54, W: 13.43, E: 94.55. (but then, as I say, I cropped the output a bit (mainly E and S)). If that's not what you need tell me how to extract it from the QGIS project. Begoon talk 05:16, 23 September 2013 (UTC) Hello again! I linked the Psd as you guys asked: https://www.dropbox.com/lightbox/home Also, Yug, the degree of relief that I find elegant with a historic map would be a relief half way between: 1:50m Bathymetry data only, colour adjusted alternate using SRTM_50 relief Arbitrary section break As long as that relief has the rivers and bodies of water, that is fine by me. I thank you guys so much for helping me with this! Also, I have finally figured out what to do with the colors! I can't wait to see what you guys do with my psd file! Regards and Cheers! :D Keeby101 (talk) 22:43, 22 September 2013 (UTC) And I can't wait to see the psd file . Your new link (https://www.dropbox.com/lightbox/home) is just a link to a login page - not a file... Begoon talk 05:16, 23 September 2013 (UTC) Oops...I did not mean to do that. :( Here is the link to the file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3scxlt4a6kkhqhy/Sasanian%20Empire%20Territorial%20Expansion%20%28Final%20Product%29.psd Cheers! Keeby101 (talk) 06:45, 23 September 2013 (UTC) Ok - downloaded that. Not really much I can do with that as you haven't done your overlays to the map in a separate layer or layers. The proper way to do it is to set the topography as your bottom layer and lock it, then add your coloured areas in new layers above it. That way you are not affecting your background map at all, and you can adjust your overlay areas independently. There's a learning curve to Photoshop, like anything else, but of all the things to learn, using layers to make non-destructive additions or changes to an image is the most important, in my opinion. If you want to understand it all, I'd strongly recommend reading this: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/photoshop/cs/using/WSfd1234e1c4b69f30ea53e41001031ab64-78e3a.html, and once you think you understand it, recreating your document with separate layers for: The base relief map (one locked, bottom layer) One layer for each coloured overlay area - so 5 or 6 layers called red/yellow etc... This: http://www.photoshopessentials.com/basics/custom-shapes/ is useful to show you how to add custom coloured shapes with the "pen" tool as "shape layers". eventually a layer for text and another for symbols etc... as good practice, with an actual productive product. Or we can do it all for you - but that would seem a shame when you're so close to getting it yourself. Begoon talk 07:46, 23 September 2013 (UTC) I dropped a couple of "random" shape layers into your prototype, just as an example so you can understand what I'm babbling about, here: Dropbox:Sasanian Empire Territorial Expansion (Final Product).psd (link...) Download that, and you'll be able to see how the overlay layers are completely independent to the stuff underneath them, such as the map. Begoon talk 08:34, 23 September 2013 (UTC) ...and way up above is File:Topographic map of middle east - spanning Italy to India.png, which might do for your base relief layer, with rivers, lakes, the blues back a bit towards what you want to copy, and a "compromise" amount of relief... (I also added a L3 heading to this section here to make editing easier with less scrolling - this section is wearing out my mouse wheel... )Begoon talk 13:46, 23 September 2013 (UTC) ...and here's another example Photoshop psd file, with that background in a base layer, and some example "random" coloured area layers, adjustment layers, and text layers - just so you can download it and see how it all can be done neatly and non-destructively: Dropbox:Sasanian Empire example.psd (link...). You could use that file as a starting point to recreate the map. Begoon talk 14:35, 23 September 2013 (UTC) Thank you so much! :D I am going to take all of this out for a spin. I just started taking a look at the links that you gave me and they are incredibly helpful. Hopefully the map will be complete by tomorrow or the day after. I promise that when I am finished creating the map, it will be the best of them all! Regards and Cheers! :) Keeby101 (talk) 01:16, 24 September 2013 (UTC) Cool - but don't set yourself any artificial WP:DEADLINEs. More haste, less speed, and all that... Take your time, and if you need any help then don't hesitate to ask, or put your working files back up for assistance. As I said above, by the time you are finished, you'll be an expert - and the amount of learning you are doing here is far from negligible, and very impressive. Begoon talk 02:22, 24 September 2013 (UTC) Understood on regards to the deadlines and asking! I will let you know if I get stuck when making the final version of the new Sasanian Empire map ok. And again I say, thank you for all of the help you have given me Begoon! Same goes to Yug! Reagards and Cheers! :) Keeby101 (talk) 03:59, 24 September 2013 (UTC) @Guys: I made a topographic attemps with Begoon WNES coordinates (as expected : a bit too large), see here. I do it programmaticaly as part of an coming WMF project (to announce soon !). As for most script, I expected to spend 30min on this map, I spent 4hours fixing the system. Moreover, does the download button works for you ? (it works on other websites with chrome). Cheers. Yug (talk) 23:48, 26 September 2013 (UTC) Size First time I tried to load your link I just got an empty blue box, download button did nothing. (Chrome) Second time, after switching off all pop-up and script blockers it "timed out" - white screen. I refreshed - the map "flashed up" - then disappeared. I hovered my mouse over the empty blue box - map came back and stayed. It's 38.5 MB (39,427 Kb)!!! Probably the reason for everything being slow, but I'll list them anyway, since I did them.... Could just be me but the file seems awful slow to load (in Chrome) - my internet is slow today, though. Download Now I could download it with the button, and got untitled.svg. I put that here: [5] I also put it here: File:Test topographic background for Sasanian Empire.svg (assumed it was PD - tag would need fixing otherwise...) Processing Also seems a bit slow to load "locally" from my desktop in Chrome Adobe Illustrator CS5 takes 4 minutes to load, then kinda loads it - with bits missing like no scale bar units - but that's Illustrator - proves nothing - sometimes that POS chokes on the most innocuous of svgs Inkscape takes 5 minutes, but eventually loads it, anything you do while it's open (even simple stuff like trying to zoom) is unusably slow - it looks ok in Inkscape though Gimp (2.8) fails to load it with error on line 59, column 1373 - "Huge input lookup" (no idea what that means... but Googling it gives stuff about big text nodes in xml files, which I guess could be relevant with svg) All of that is Win XP SP3 (only 2Gb RAM), and the same tests currently work fine with "other" smaller svg files (seconds instead of minutes) (in case it was my PC acting up) I did download the file a couple of times in case it was corrupt - same results Aesthetic Nice map, though... Looks like it will be a really cool way to do this, and very useful. Color ramp - maybe it shouldn't sit "in front" of the scale bar like it seems to? Begoon talk 05:38, 27 September 2013 (UTC) This is a big review. I note your points, I was aware of several of them : too heavy / too precise, color ramp under the landmass, etc. But as I said, it's slow to explore and debug. I have difficulties to generate a file with "just the right size" (~1600*1000px, 0.5 to 2Mo), the comand lines don't work as I expect, need more exploration. 35Mo is definitively not acceptable. With the exact WNES coordinates I could reduce the file size by half. I'have been on this script for about 6 months, gathering informations and tricks, plus one month full time this summer. Still need to improve. At least, the quality is quite good. Little trick: at the end, [if the filesize is reduced], it may be elegant to combine it with the shaded grey reliefs at opacity 0.3. : ) Yug (talk) 14:10, 27 September 2013 (UTC) Hey - don't get me wrong. It wasn't till I read this again that I saw what I'd written said basically: "Problem, problem, problem (xn), compliment..." I think the quality is great, and that's a huge chunk of WNES territory, so any file size improvements will likely be exponential on a better selected, more precise area. I knew it was a lot of feedback, but I code, and I hate to miss anything that could be useful out when I test something, and I did all those things, so I reported them I think, basically, it looks like it will be absolutely awesome (and I love the idea of combining the relief as a transp 30% layer - that could look gorgeous.) Absolutely can't wait to see what you do with it - and I do know what effort this kind of thing takes - "guru" status stuff. Begoon talk 17:22, 27 September 2013 (UTC) Arbitrary section break 2 Hey guys! Just wanted to keep you all updated on what has been going on with the final version of the new Sasanian Empire map that I'm making. You guys were definitely right on regards to not creating a deadline for myself. This map has been really hard to make so far and is taking quite a while. It probably won't be finished until mid October at the latest however. I'm still reading the instructions(which are extremely useful) on how to do the color overalays via the links you gave me Begoon. Hopefully the map will be done soon. Regards! :) Keeby101 (talk) 06:36, 28 September 2013 (UTC) Great - take your time, and ask if you get stuck - there's no such thing as a silly question when you're learning. You did remember to download this: Dropbox:Sasanian Empire example.psd (link...) which is a Photoshop document containing examples of those layers? Begoon talk 08:00, 28 September 2013 (UTC) Already downloaded it. I'm currently applying the layers. The map will probably be done by next week. :) Keeby101 (talk) 14:44, 28 September 2013 (UTC) Hello again guys! Been awhile, but I am having a hard time with the layers and all. I have been reading the instructions that you gave me Begoon and to be honest, they are not exactly hard to follow as much as they are confusing for me. I kinda get lost/stuck and get confused and as a result I keep screwing up.. :( I'm trying to apply the layers as best as I can. This is taking a little bit longer than I thought, but that's ok. I'm not in a rush. :) I hope I am not irritating anyone when I ask of this, but If you could provide me with instructions of your own on how you did this, that would be very helpful as well. :) In the mean time, I will be adding the texts to my map. I rather get that out of the way first. :) Keeby101 (talk) 12:08, 7 October 2013 (UTC) Well it's hard to know what advice to give unless you show how far you got. Share your psd again so we can see. And yes, you can screw up with the text if you don't do it in a separate layer. If you just type it straight onto the background you'll have possible trouble later moving or resizing it without damaging the background, if you rasterize it. Honestly, what I said way back is the thing - layers are the key. There are a zillion tutorials you can google, or, just ask a straight question - I'm trying to do 'x' and I can't. The examples are in the file I gave you to download - you should have been using that as your working file. If you haven't managed to work out how the layers work in that file, then apart from telling you to read the stuff again or make sure you have understood how to use the "layers panel" (Window-layers), it's hard to read your mind. Here: try this - http://www.photoshopessentials.com/basics/layers/layers-panel/ Learn how to turn layers on and off/create layers/delete layers. Play with that until you understand it. And ask specific questions if you get stuck. General "I get confused" things are hard to help with. Or.......... As I said before, we can just do it for you. I still haven't seen how you're reliably sourcing your areas though, so that would have to be clear. A link to the encyclopedia or published map you are using, or the one which you agreed on the talk page with Kathovo, because we couldn't just pull it out of the long convoluted edit-war and mish-mash of disputed sources. Just let us know which way you want to go. Begoon talk 20:50, 7 October 2013 (UTC) Hello again everyone! I'm just here to give you guys a quick update and letting you two know that I'm still here! :) After what Begoon said a few days ago, I am still currently undecided on whether to create the map myself or have you guys create the map for me. However, I am coming close to making a decision on that regard and I will let you two know what that decision will be very soon. Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keeby101 (talk • contribs) 04:53, 20 October 2013 (UTC) That's cool... Take your time, and let us know what you decide. Begoon talk 06:55, 20 October 2013 (UTC) Hello everyone! Just want to let you guys know that i have made my decision. I would like for you guys to make the map for me. :) I found out what the Sasanian Empire actually looked like at its greatest extent. Here it is: Accurate borders of the Empire at its greatest extent And here are my sources to back it up: Chosroes II continues his victorious career, conquering Egypt and Asia Minor and occupying both Alexandria and also Chaceldon across the Bosporus from Constinanople. In this campaign the Persians broke through Byzantiums's eastern provinces; in 609, they reached Chaceldon, directly facing the capital, and their triumphal progress, far more serious than before, occupied the first part of the reign of Herakleios. Chosroes II of Persia who owed his throne to Maurice, declared war on the murderer of his benefactor. Persian armies were victorious in Mesopotamia and Syria, capturing the fortress towns of Dara, Amida Haran, Edessa, Hierapolis and Aleppo, though they were repulsed from Antioch and Damascus. They then overran Byzantine Armenia and raided deep into Anatolia through the provinces of Cappadocia, Phrygia, Galatia, and Bithynia. Byzantine resistance collapsed. A Persian Army penetrated as far as the Bosporus. Antioch and most of the remaining Byzantine fortresses in Syria and Mesopotamia and Armenia were captured(611). After a long sieges, the invaders took Damascus (613) and Jerusalem (614). Chosroes then began a determined invasion of Anatolia (615). Persian forces under General Shahen captured Chaceldon on the Bosporus after a long siege (616). Here the Persians remained, within one of Constantanople, for more than 10 years. Meanwhile, they captured Ancyra and Rhodes (620); remaining Byzantine fortresses in Armenia were captured; the Persian occupation cut off a principal Byzantine recruiting ground. After defeating Byzantine garrisons in the Nile Valley, Chosroes marched across the Libyan Desert as far as Cyrene. These victories cut off the usual grain supplies from Egypt to Constantinople. Under Chosroes II the Persians virtually eliminated the Byzantines from all their Asiatic and Egyptian provinces, expanding Sassanid dominions to the extent of the Empire of Darius. The able Persian generals Shahrvaraz and Shahin led the Sassanid armies through Mesopotamia, Armenia and Syria into Palestine and Asia Minor. They took Antioch in 611, Damascus in 613, and then Jurusalem, in 614 (sending a shock through the whole Christian world). At Jerusalem the Christian defenders refused to give up the city, and it was taken by assault after three weeks, and given over to the sack. The Persians carries off the True Cross to Ctesiphon. Within another four years they had conquered Egypt and were in control of Asia Minor, as far as Chaceldon, opposite of Constantinople on the shores of the Bosporus. No shah of Persia since Cyrus had achieved such military successes. NOTE: The sources that I quoted from are the sources that cannot be linked due to them not being available to read on the internet. The sources that I cited and quoted from were from books at my local libraries. Regards. :) Keeby101 (talk) 23:53, 1 November 2013 (UTC) Also, on regards to me citing www.iranicaonline.org as one of my sources, even Kathovo acknowledged that website was a reliable source when he and I had a conversation on this topic. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Keeby101#My_Grand_Proposal_1_reformed.21 Finally, I forgot to mention that I thank you guys again for everything you have done. :D Sigh... Oh, Keeby, that just puts us right back where we were when we started ... You want us to create your version, with no consensus, after the long edit war that started all this? Off you pop to the article talkpage, then, get consensus for using these borders, and I'm happy to finish it for you then. As I tried to explain, at length, earlier, the article talkpage is the place to hash out those details - not here. Cheers. Begoon talk 06:44, 2 November 2013 (UTC) Hello Keeby, Begoon is right that this maps is not yet a concensus. But! You learnt an nice competence, and this maps is a good step toward consensus. You now have a topic/article, a basemap, and a set of sources to let emerge a consensus. History stay quite blur actually. My few Ancient Chinese plain maps were hard as well because of pro-China VS pro-tibet or pro-Korea people. Both side are easily offended mainly because they see sovereignty with eyes of the 21st century. Ancient times were much more nuanced and loose, with stronger local power, a really light control from the Kingdom/Empire. A good advice is to use "disputed areas", or "temporarily infuenced", and other blur words to cool down oppositions and ease your design work. Yug (talk) 18:40, 2 November 2013 (UTC) Actually, "disputed areas", or "temporarily infuenced" is very good advice for a way to get a result everyone can be comfortable with, in your talkpage discussions - and, let's face it, as Yug says, nobody ever wandered around Eurasia painting these borders on the ground so that we could depict them - it's a lot looser than that. You do need some sort of agreement there, though, after all the previous discussion. Begoon talk 08:57, 3 November 2013 (UTC) I understand what you two are saying perfectly. I will try my best to reach a consensus with the editors on the Sasanian Empire talk page as so far, fellow editors have actually for the most part agreed with me as opposed to the last time I tried to reach a consensus with everyone which was the edit war I had... That being said, I will post the information of the Sasanian empire that I posted on this page onto the Sasanian Empire talk page. Hopefully I will get somewhere lol/ :) Also, you two haven't forgotten that the map that you guys are going to create if a consensus is reached on the Sasanian Empire talk page is supposed to show the territorial evolution of the Sasanian Empire correct? Regards. :D Keeby101 (talk) 17:13, 3 November 2013 (UTC) Forget? We never forget... . Here's the answer from way back when you first mentioned that: "what we would need is a clear specification listing or showing visually the exact countries/areas/places to include in the map (and if you want "evolution" then date ranges and associated territorial areas for the given dates will need specifying too)." So don't forget to discuss that at the talkpage too. Nothing is perfect, and no lines we can draw will surely be "precise" because it's all a bit open to interpretation, obviously, that's what your consensus discussions will establish, how precise we can get - but when that's done, you give us the consensual dates (as exact or as approximate as you all agree) and the corresponding areas for those dates, and we'll draw them... Begoon talk 17:31, 3 November 2013 (UTC) Arbitrary section break 3 Hello again everyone! Been awhile, just wanted to let you guys know that I'm still here. I might use WP:RfC if no one responds to the topic on the talk page anytime soon, but I will still try to be patient. Regards! :D Keeby101 (talk) 02:47, 24 November 2013 (UTC) Hey guys! I'm back again! Just letting you two know that I recently used WP:RfC due to no one responding to the topic on the Sasanian Empire talk page. The talk page itself has been inactive lately. Hopefully my request for comments on the talk page will get things going again and a consensus will finally be reached! Cheers! :D Keeby101 (talk) 08:28, 12 December 2013 (UTC) Hello again everyone! Been a few days, just wanted to let you guys know that I'm still participating in this. I put up an RfC template on the Sasanian Empire talk page so that will help things along and then this will all be said and done once a consensus is reached. :D Keeby101 (talk) 06:18, 20 December 2013 (UTC) Hey guys, it's Keeby again. Roughly a few days ago a fellow editor told went on to the talk page and told me to start a new discussion and listed tips on how to draw editors in to the discussion. So I took his advice for the most part and started a Part 2 to the discussion on the Sasanian Empire talk page that has an RfC template on it. I am going to try to reach a consensus using these borders/basemap: Accurate borders of the Empire at its greatest extent Since I made the new discussion more simple and straightforward, it will probably go a lot faster than the last discussion and a consensus will finally be reached. Cheers! Keeby101 (talk) 10:16, 5 January 2014 (UTC) Hello everyone! I just wanted you guys to know that a consensus is currently being reached. Depending on the amount of editors that are needed to agree on my proposal, a consensus might already have been reached. So far, 3 editors have agreed that on a new map being made. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sasanian_Empire#rfc_1653BEA Keeby101 (talk) 22:41, 7 January 2014 (UTC) Alright everyone! I believe a consensus on the Sasanian Empire talk page has been reached! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sasanian_Empire#Revised_RfC_proposal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sasanian_Empire#RfC_reply 3 editors agree with my proposal and 1 disagreeing with my proposal! You guys are free to make the map now! :D Keeby101 (talk) 05:19, 14 January 2014 (UTC) Oh, Keeby, you really seem to sometimes see what you want to see, don't you? I know you're keen on this and you've worked hard, but this must be, what, the 3rd time you've come back saying there's agreement when there really isn't anything of the sort. We're just going round in circles, really... I'm not blaming you for that, but you really need to listen and read what is said in that discussion. There's agreement that a map should be made, sure - but no agreement at all to your borders, as far as I can see. If I were you I'd go back there and see which of the existing encyclopedia/atlas maps referenced you can get consensus on. Then we can use that, and our working files here to do the job. Making up your own version like this from sources everyone seems to consider doubtful, or wrongly used, just doesn't seem like it's going to work, and you've been trying for a long time now. I've made a couple of comments over there in your "RFC". Hope that will help. Begoon talk 11:18, 14 January 2014 (UTC) Hello Begoon. I do apologize for the false alarm. You are right, so far no one has agreed to a map being made using my borders. However, I did notice on the talk page itself that no one seemed to acknowledge the reliable sources that I posted on the RfC proposal, but they did seem to acknowledge the unreliable sources that I posted during the edit war. In fact, only one editor so far has acknowledged the sources I posted on the RfC proposal. Ironically that is the same editor who I was debating against during the edit war, Constantine. On top of that I do recall what Yug was telling me when it came to his Ancient Chinese maps and how there were pro-China vs pro-Tibet and/or pro-Korea people. Taking a look at the discussions/debates that took place prior to the edit war, I am starting to believe that I am encountering that with the editor Constantine. Regardless, I will go back to the talk page and try to reach a consensus once more on a map being made using my borders. But this time I will use the method that you guys told me to do earlier and use "disputed areas", "temporarily infuenced", or "temporary conquests" and other blur words to cool down oppositions. Sound good? :) Keeby101 (talk) 13:59, 14 January 2014 (UTC) I do think approaching it that way could be more productive, yes. You'll need to remember, though, that, in the end, consensus is king, and if you need to move towards what everyone else is saying in order to achieve that, then so be it. The best compromises are reached when everyone listens, rather than just arguing their own position. Regardless, it really shouldn't be brought back here until there's a proper consensus. Looks to me you'll need to be flexible, and avoid getting everyone offside by being too insistent - but that's just how I see it. Good luck with your discussions. Oh, one more bit of advice - don't personalise it, as you started to do above, and don't assign motives. Discuss the dispassionate facts. That's all we should care about. Begoon talk 14:17, 14 January 2014 (UTC) Hello again Begoon, I saw what you had to say on the Sasanian Empire talk page. Your right that I should not personalize it and I didn't mean to do so. I have been trying to find as many reliable sources as possible to support the boundaries of my map. Perhaps Constantine's proposal is a good alternative to this. I just don't feel comfortable having two maps in the infobox, that's all. For the most part is because I have never seen an article on Wikipedia that has that. I'll try to find more reliable sources to support the boundaries of my map and if I can't, then I will go with Constantine's proposal. Keeby101 (talk) 21:50, 19 January 2014 (UTC) Hey everyone! Just wanting to let you all know that I'm still here! Regards. Kirby (talk) 12:06, 29 January 2014 (UTC) On a side note, I re-read the discussions we had above in the first and second arbitrary section breaks and took a look at those tutorials and made a map of my own: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vdsjzcz62e182cx/Sasanian%20Empire%20Territorial%20Boundaries%20621%20A.D.%20v.7.psd It's not finished yet, I still need to add the cities and provinces, but regardless tell me what you guys think! Cheers! Kirby (talk) 12:06, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

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Article(s): FIFA World Cup

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With the information on these maps, could someone please create a GIF animated map of 20 frames showing which teams qualified for every FIFA World Cup from 1930 - 2014. Qualified nations should be shown in green on every slide, with the others left in grey. And whenever a nation qualifies for the first time (e.g. Ukraine in 2006, Slovakia in 2010 and Bosnia-Herzegovina for 2014) they should be shown in red in that slide.

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Article(s): Zabarwan Range

Request:

It‘s a new article about a sub-mountain range. A map is a must in the article. The range is between Sind Valley and Lidder Valley in the north and south and between Zanskar Range and Jehlum Valley in the east and west respectively. The coordinates of these articles will help. --  MehrajMir (Talk) 09:22, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

• This file can also help.  MehrajMir (Talk) 09:49, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

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It's very hard for someone who know nothing of this subject/region to create what you want based on the information you provide. The pages contain a lot of information and to find what one need is not easy. We do graphic work and not research. You should provide a more direct indication/information on which area you want. Draw it simply on that nasa image or something like that. Tell us what type of map you want, a physical or a map type google maps (not satellite). Do you want rivers, roads and stuff also. If you can link to another map of the same type as you want it's great. Think "we know nothing of this subject". --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

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Article(s): City districts and neighbourhoods of Malmö.

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Hello, I'm searching for the following thing: maps, like the one above this message, in different versions with a different neighborhood colored in every time. This for every city district of Malmö. No text is needed, SVG would be great. Thanks in advance. -- Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 23:30, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

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 Request taken by Goran tek-en (talk) 13:32, 21 January 2014 (UTC).

@Sjoerddebruin: I have made on draft so you can see if I understood you right. Have a look at this for Södra innerstaden and give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:32, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

@Goran tek-en: First, thanks for the mention. Yes, this is what I am looking for. Looking good! --Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 18:03, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Btw, are you only making the districts? I also need them with the neighborhoods on them, for each neighborhood one. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 18:42, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

What do you mean by "only making the districts", that is ten files I have just uploaded as below;

Södra innerstaden, distrikt i Malmö

Södra innerstaden, distrikt i Malmö

Rosengård, distrikt i Malmö

Oxie, distrikt i Malmö

Limhamn-Bunkeflo, distrikt i Malmö

Kirseberg, distrikt i Malmö

Hyllie, distrikt i Malmö

Husie, distrikt i Malmö

Fosie, distrikt i Malmö

Centrum, distrikt i Malmö

Västra innerstaden, distrikt i Malmö

If you need any other version just let me know. You have to let me know if this is Done or you want something else. thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:55, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Like the examples at the top, with every time a different neighborhood of the district colored in. Like this, but only with the current district (not the whole city). Thanks in advance. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 20:04, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

@Sjoerddebruin: I'm sorry but I don't really follow you.

Malmö is divided into 10 districts as the files I uploaded. Each district is then divided into even smaller sub-districts.

If you want me to do all of the sub-districts with highlighting of each part as this then this will be 50-80 files, am I right?

That is a lot, and if so, then you would have to provide me with all the files with the sub-districts for the 10 districts. --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:27, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm not getting any further feedback or information so I can't do any more work on this request. I have to withdraw my Taken on this and hope someone else can complete this request. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:26, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done Stoning in Law

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Article(s): Stoning

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Source: [6] [7] [8] [9]

1. Black: Legal and actively in use: Iran and Somalia
2. Red: Legal, not actively in use: Mauritania, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and Yemen.
3. Orange: Legal, not actively in use at a regional level: Northern Nigeria, and Terengganu of Malaysia, and Aceh of Indonesia.

I want this map to be only based on stoning in law, so please ignore the remaining countries: Mali, Iraq, Afghanistan.

Similar format to File:Death Penalty World Map.svg and first source.-- Muhammed Kabir (talk) 07:47, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

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 Request taken by DLommes (talk) 14:29, 29 March 2014 (UTC). Done Already in the article

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Article(s): Colonisation

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India and Japan are the same color... -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:00, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

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India does not use the same colour as what is used for Japan? -- [[ axg // ✉ ]] 16:26, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

India, when coloured at all, is brick red to show that it was a British colony. Japan is cyan. Maproom (talk) 08:59, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

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Article(s): World Organization of the Scout Movement

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Change Burma to pink, they restored Scouting in December 2012... -- Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:10, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

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 Done Decapitation

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Article(s): Decapitation

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A map showing beheading used as capital punishment by country.. Yemen, Iran, and Qatar = Red. Saudi Arabia = black.

Source: Weinberg, Jon (Winter 2008). "Sword of Justice? Beheadings Rise in Saudi Arabia". Harvard International Review..-- Muhammed Kabir (talk) 21:54, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

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 Request taken by DLommes (talk) 18:32, 28 March 2014 (UTC).: Did a first version. Please give feedback:

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 Done Geographic range of Naja oxiana

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Article(s): Caspian cobra

Request: I would like the geographic range/distribution of the Caspian cobra (Naja oxiana) to be shown on the blank map provided. It will be based on the following: N. oxiana range. Would like colour to be dark red. Thanks. --Dendro†Naja^{Talk to me!} 15:13, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done--DLommes (talk) 10:30, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done Geographic range of Naja sputatrix

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Article(s): Javan spitting cobra

Request: I would like the geographic range/distribution of the Javan spitting cobra (Naja sputatrix) to be shown on the blank map provided. It will be based on the following: N. sputatrix range. Would like colour to be dark red. Thanks. --Dendro†Naja^{Talk to me!} 16:02, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

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 Done Geographic range of Naja kaouthia

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Article(s): Monocled cobra

Request: I would like the geographic range/distribution of the Monocled cobra (Naja kaouthia) to be shown on the blank map provided. It will be based on the following: N. kaouthia range. Would like colour to be dark red. Thanks. --Dendro†Naja^{Talk to me!} 17:01, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

--DLommes (talk) 10:51, 29 March 2014 (UTC)I did this, but the range in the provided picture and the range in the article conflict with each other. Please check.

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 Done Geographic range of Naja mossambica

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Article(s): Mozambique spitting cobra

Request: I would like the geographic range/distribution of the Mozambique spitting cobra (Naja mossambica) to be shown on the blank map provided. It will be based on the following: N. mossambica range. Would like colour to be dark red. Thanks. --Dendro†Naja^{Talk to me!} 17:09, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s): I created a first version. Please give me feedback, and i will work on this further and finally do all the other requests. --DLommes (talk) 18:26, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Looks good to me. I'd really appreciate it if you did the rest for me. --Dendro†Naja^{Talk to me!} 19:06, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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 Done Geographic range of Naja siamensis

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Article(s): Indochinese spitting cobra

Request: I would like the geographic range/distribution of the Caspian cobra (Naja siamensis) to be shown on the blank map provided. It will be based on the following: N. siamensis range. Would like colour to be dark red. Thanks. --Dendro†Naja^{Talk to me!} 18:33, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done--DLommes (talk) 11:05, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done Polygamy map

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Article(s): Legal status of polygamy

Request:

Please make Kenya pblack in accordance with todays vote. Thanks -- Lihaas (talk) 20:56, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

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 Done: -- [[ axg // ✉ ]] 21:02, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you.Lihaas (talk) 15:13, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done Geographic range of Naja nubiae

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Article(s): Nubian spitting cobra

Request: I would like the geographic range/distribution of the Nubian spitting cobra (Naja nubiae) to be shown on the blank map provided. It will be based on the following: N. nubiae range. Would like colour to be dark red. Thanks. --Dendro†Naja^{Talk to me!} 23:09, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Take a look.DLommes (talk) 19:24, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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 Done Geographic range of Naja multifasciata

Resolved

 – DLommes (talk) 10:13, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

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Article(s): Burrowing cobra

Request: I would like the geographic range/distribution of the Burrowing cobra (Naja multifasciata) to be shown on the blank map provided. It will be based on the following: N. multifasciata range. Would like colour to be dark red. Thanks. --Dendro†Naja^{Talk to me!} 00:36, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Take a look. --DLommes (talk) 19:32, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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 Done Geographic range of Naja naja

Resolved

 – DLommes (talk) 20:55, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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Article(s): Indian cobra

Request: I would like the geographic range/distribution of the Indian cobra (Naja naja) to be shown on the blank map provided. It will be based on the following: N. naja range. Would like colour to be dark red. Thanks. --Dendro†Naja^{Talk to me!} 03:06, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Here you go. Feedback please. --DLommes (talk) 20:16, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Looks very good. I like it and if you can, please finish the other maps. --Dendro†Naja^{Talk to me!} 20:28, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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 Done Geographic range of Naja katiensis

Resolved

 – DLommes (talk) 01:03, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

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Article(s): West African spitting cobra

Request: I would like the geographic range/distribution of the West African spitting cobra (Naja katiensis) to be shown on the blank map provided. It will be based on the following: N. katiensis range. Would like colour to be dark red. Thanks. --Dendro†Naja^{Talk to me!} 03:30, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Please check.--DLommes (talk) 19:38, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

As you use it in the article, I declare it  Done

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 Done Location map for Sevastopol

Resolved

 – DLommes (talk) 15:27, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

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  Map of Sevastopol with its four districts (#1-#4) and the Inkerman City (#5).
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  Map of Crimea just to show color scheme.

Article(s): Sevastopol, Kerch, Inkerman, Kacha, all other cities/towns of Sevastopol

Request:: I need a location map for Sevastopol showing its administrative districts with the following specifications:

1. the non-district area (that belongs to the Republic of Crimea) should follow the color scheme of the second image, same with the sea
2. the gray area has to be colorized with the darker color as with Crimea's map as it's a neighboring territory that belongs to the same unitary nation
3. Inkerman City (#5) should not be a subdivision as it is inside a district (#4)
4. the map should not have any numbers
5. the divisions shown in the gray area (one north, another tiny one in the southeast) must be erased as this region belongs to the Republic of Crimea rather than Sevastopol so there's no reason to show it (it's unnecessary)
6. the rectangular border of the whole image should be removed
7. is there any way to smooth the borders a little bit?
8. is it possible to cut down a little bit of the northern land that belongs to the Republic of Crimea? it's taking space that doesn't need to be shown

Would greatly appreciate if this is given a priority as it documents a highly visible current event in Wikipedia! Thanks a ton guys,

—Ahnoneemoos (talk) 04:48, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Request taken by DLommes (talk) 10:09, 29 March 2014 (UTC). Here you go.

• Is there any reason why it's so small? Also, the part that belongs to Republic of Crimea must use the darker yellowish color used on the 2nd map (up north). And you left a border in the southeastern area that belongs to Crimea that has to be removed. Besides that, everything looks great! —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 11:50, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

• as this is a vector image size is completely irrelevant. but i changed it nonetheless. same with the color and the border. everything okay now?--DLommes (talk) 14:10, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

• Wow, many thanks. This is perfect! —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 14:56, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

• @DLommes: Is this image an equirectangular projection? If so, what are the exact coordinates of the image's boundaries? Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:30, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done Orthographic projection of Sevastopol

Resolved

 – DLommes (talk) 00:59, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

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  Orthographic projection of the Crimean Peninsula.
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  Map of all the subdivisions that compose the Crimean peninsula. Sevastopol is the southwestern division.
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Article(s): Sevastopol

Request:

I need an orthographic projection of Sevastopol. However, as Sevastopol is currently disputed there a few caveats:

1. both the projection and the global map must mark Sevastopol in dark green
2. both the projection and the global map must color Russia, Ukraine, and the Republic of Crimea in shades of gray that are darker than light gray (three different shades of gray: one shade for Ukraine, one shade for Russia, and another shade for the Republic of Crimea)
3. Sevastopol must be easily discernible in the projection (the projection of Map #1 sucks 'cuz it's so difficult to discern the peninsula)

—Ahnoneemoos (talk) 17:33, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Request taken by DLommes (talk) 20:05, 28 March 2014 (UTC).: I did two versions, think both are not very good. After some tries your point 4 seems awfully hard, if not impossible to satisfy. I think versions 2, just showing a dot is much better, but still not good. Please give me feedback.DLommes (talk) 20:05, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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• Use this map for the ortographic projection. It has less clutter and less water. That will allow you to portray Sevastopol better. Also, if you use grays that are not that dark it will be easier to notice the disputed countries. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 20:27, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

• i updated the second one as your request. more feedback?--DLommes (talk) 00:23, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

• Awesome! We just need to make Sevastopol stand out more though. Easy way to fix this is to use a lighter gray for the Republic of Crimea. Remember, Ukraine, Russia, and Crimea must have a darker gray than the rest of the world, but it doesn't need to be extremely dark. Just a different tonality. If we make Crimea too dark then Crimea stands out more than Sevastopol. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 00:37, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

• updated. --DLommes (talk) 00:46, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
• Perfect! Thanks my man. Any chance you could have a look at the one requested above regarding Sevastopol's districts? —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 00:51, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

I'll see. This is more work, as one needs to vectorise the PNG map. this is also not my favourite kind of work. But as you seem satisified I declare this one here  Done DLommes (talk) 00:59, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done International reactions to the Crimean crisis

Resolved

 – DLommes (talk) 20:46, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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  The original
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  The map to update

Article(s): Various

Request:

Please update the vector map to match the raster map. It would also be nice if you added in the states with limited recognition that have also commented on the Crimean crisis. If you can improve the map in any other way, please do that too. Thanks in advance. -- 109.77.166.108 (talk) 23:05, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Request taken by DLommes (talk) 20:46, 28 March 2014 (UTC). It is done. Please check for errors. Cheers!--DLommes (talk) 20:46, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. :)109.79.104.96 (talk) 23:51, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Scratch that, you forgot Abkhazia, Nagorno-Karabakh and Transnistria. Please add them in. I thould have checkec before I commented but oh well. Thanks for your cooperation. :)109.79.104.96 (talk) 00:10, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Updated. --DLommes (talk) 00:33, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done Individual maps for Sevastopol's districts

Resolved

 – DLommes (talk) 15:27, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

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  Map of Sevastopol and its districts. The dark orange/yellow eastern area is not part of Sevastopol, that's the Republic of Crimea.
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  Map of Italy and its districts, with the district of Veneto highlighted in red.

Article(s): Gagarin Raion, Lenin Raion, Nakhimov Raion, and Balaklava Raion.

Request:

I need four maps for each of the districts that compose Sevastopol. The maps should follow the color convention used on the map of Italy. That is:

1. the district highlighted should be in red
2. the districts that are not being highlighted should be colored in the same light yellow used for Italy's districts

—Ahnoneemoos (talk) 15:15, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Request taken by DLommes (talk) 15:27, 29 March 2014 (UTC). The last Sevastopol ones i will do. Also please change the file pages on wikimedia commons, as to indicate which image shows which district exactly. Thanks. Done

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• Awesome! Could I request another one without any district highlighted please? —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 15:29, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done Equirectangular projection of Sevastopol

Resolved

 – —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 18:42, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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  Map of Sevastopol and its districts.

Article(s): Balaklava, Inkerman, Kacha, Sevastopol International Airport, other places hosted at Category:Sevastopol.

Request:

Just need an equirectangular projection of Sevastopol and its districts. Same as the image included above but equirectangular. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 02:07, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Also, please include the coordinates of the boundaries in the file's description. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:08, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

• I am a graphic designer, not a cartographer, so I am not sure. But in the articles you are referencing, this map File:Outline Map of Crimea (disputed status).svg is used. Is this equirectangular? Can I use this as a base and make a derivative work from that? As the description of this file also includes the coordinates, I might even be able to fulfil that request. --DLommes (talk) 12:56, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Yes, that map is equirectangular but it portrays the whole peninsula and we only need to portray Sevastopol. I'm not a cartographer either so I don't know how these equirectangular maps are created. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 14:01, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
    • Please try the following. The coordinates of the boundaries are in the file's description. I cannot guarantee that i did everything correctly, but i think i did. I started with an equirectangular map, laid a grid over that map, marking 0.1 steps of coordinates (as given by the file's description), then i cropped the map to exact 0.1 markings. This should work. If it does work for your purposes I will change the map to suit your needs (i think you want the subdivisions and the colors as in the last one i did, right?), but i first want to make sure that this works as needed. If it doesn't, we need someone with more cartography experience than me. CHeersDLommes (talk) 15:48, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
      • Yup, it worked! Check it out at User:Ahnoneemoos/sandbox. Just need to make the other fixes like you mentioned. Remember to remove the borders that belong to the Republic of Crimea too. Thanks a ton man. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 16:09, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
        • Changed the colors. If everything still works as it should, please mark this as {{resolved|1=~~~~}}. THank you. Oh, if you want, i can re-do the subdivision highlights on this one as well... Will only be 2 more minutes of work.--DLommes (talk) 16:34, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
          • The districts must be light yellow, not gray. Also: (i) can you make the border with the Republic of Crimea thinner, (ii) make the district borders a little bit more wider, and (iii) make the image itself larger. I know it's an SVG but users tend to click on them and if it opens in its current small size it's difficult to notice the district borders (I don't know how this will affect its equirectangular aspect though). Regarding the colorized districts, sure, it's up to you. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 16:40, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
            •  Done. The subdistrict maps are updated as well. Cheers.--DLommes (talk) 17:08, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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 Done Daboia

Resolved

 – DLommes (talk) 15:50, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Article(s): Daboia

Request:

Graphist opinion(s):

 DoneDLommes (talk) 12:51, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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  This is what you get

 Done Color change needed

Resolved

 – DLommes (talk) 15:58, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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  European countries by keyboard layout

Article(s): AZERTY, Keyboard layout, QWERTY, QWERTZ, plus twelve pages in other projects

Request:

The difference between QWERTY and QWERTZ is virtually indistinguishable to me. If you could make one or the other substantially lighter, you could retain the colors while making it more accessible. I would do it myself, but I'm afraid of accidentally changing one or more countries' keyboard layouts. Nyttend (talk) 13:00, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Done. Replaced the red by orange. Maproom (talk) 13:31, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Could you specify the hexadecimal for the orange? Some of the pages using the image have little boxes saying "This color represents this layout, that color...", and I'd like to change them. Nyttend (talk) 13:54, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

I used FF5A01. Maproom (talk) 14:00, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Ward map for King, Ontario

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Article(s): Municipal government in King, Ontario; King, Ontario; King City, Ontario; Nobleton, Ontario; Schomberg, Ontario; and others

Request:

An electoral ward map for the township of King, Ontario, which is in the Regional Municipality of York. The township has a ward map on its website (see this). I'd prefer something with simpler or more muted colours (ie - not as saturated). Mindmatrix 00:50, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Done See image above. @Mindmatrix: please comment.  Philg88 ^♦talk 10:06, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much for doing this. I've already added it to a few articles. Would it be possible to have a version without the legend, and possibly a blank version with only the municipal boundary indicated? Mindmatrix 14:38, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

I just noticed a small issue. The label for Richmond Hill is almost entirely in the area representing Vaughan (the area south of King, with eastern and western boundaries a southward extension of those for King). Richmond Hill is the area east of Bathurst Street, with northern boundary at Bloomington Road (just north of King's southern boundary). I'm not sure where you could squeeze in the label, though, so the way you did it may be the only option. Could you also make the text for the municipal labels horizontal for consistency with others, or does that look awkward in the final map? Mindmatrix 14:57, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

 Done @Mindmatrix: Changes and other versions done as requested:

• External city/region names now horizontal
• Two new versions per your request:
  • King, Ontario No Poll Legend EN.svg (legend reduced to boundaries only)
  • King, Ontario Boundaries EN.svg (No colours)

• According to both Google and OpenStreetMap, Richmond Hill is where I have shown it, if you want I can remove it

 Philg88 ^♦talk 07:32, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks again for doing this. Regarding Richmond Hill, I think Google and OpenStreetMap only spill the "Richmond Hill" label into Vaughan for regional zoom settings (which provide little room for long labels). Here's a map of the town hosted by its municipal government. It has boundaries of Highway 7 (south), Highway 404 (east), Bloomington Road (north), and Bathurst Street (west). Commons has an SVG map of York Region showing the municipal alignments within the region. Anyway, it's just a nitpick. Mindmatrix 17:13, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

No problem, unless you want Richmond Hill removed, please mark the request as "resolved".  Philg88 ^♦talk 17:23, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

I just noticed one minor issue with the Richmond Hill label - there seems to be a second label underneath it causing some artefacts. Could you remove the second label from the three maps? Mindmatrix 17:29, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

That's an outline background white border around the font to make the text more readable. It's used on all the labels and I'm afraid the problem lies with the SVG rendering software in your browser. I'd rather not remove it (or the others) as it will reduce readability.  Philg88 ^♦talk 18:09, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

My bad, I just checked and there is another label there. I'll upload new versions tomorrow.  Philg88 ^♦talk 18:14, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

 Done New versions uploaded.  Philg88 ^♦talk 05:11, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Mindmatrix 13:12, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

States with limited recognition

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Article(s): Various

Request:

Please add in the Republic of Crimea in orange. This state has declared independence on 17 March 2014 and has been recognized only by Russia. 109.77.97.217 (talk) 13:59, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

I'd wait on this one until after the referendum on the 16th, from that article sources disagree on whether the declaration was immediate or pending on the referendum, and there's no reliable source that Russia has recognized it yet (though I imagine that won't be long in coming). Kmusser (talk) 14:42, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

No sources say it is recognised by Russia. Most sources say independence is dependent on the referendum rather than being declared already. Either way, such maps are already in the history for this file, so this can by closed as resolved as no attention is needed map-wise. CMD (talk) 15:04, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Not done - The self-proclaimed state has ceased existence. It is now a (disputed) federal republic of Russia.DLommes (talk) 14:30, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Map of Grankullaviken requested

Resolved

 – Goran tek-en (talk) 19:15, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Article(s): See below
Request: Hi map makers--first of all, thanks for the valuable work you do for your beautiful project. I have a request, maybe two. I'd like a (regular, geographical) map of Grankullaviken, one that I might could use on Trollskogen and Långe Erik. There is an example here, but the big purple line is a bit distracting. Now, it would be nice to have another map, maybe of Trollskogen and the surrounding area, with the cute Rs indicating archeological finds--I could use that in Böda socken also. If any one of you reads Swedish you might find this database helpful, or this map. (I'll be honest, I cannot easily navigate those maps or figure out what's what--my Swedish is very limited, and so is my archeologish.) Thanks in advance! Drmies (talk) 14:22, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Drmies First, It would be great if you used the "New Section" link above because then all the necessary code would be added automatically, I have added it manually now.

As I'm from Sweden I can't resist this and I'm pretty sure I will have some questions later on.  Request taken by Goran tek-en (talk) 15:48, 16 March 2014 (UTC).

• Thanks, and sorry. Drmies (talk) 21:05, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Comment: I was about to take this when I remembered we have a resident Swedish map maestro :). The job is in good hands. ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 04:57, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Philg88 Thanks for that trust.

Drmies I would like you to tell me how much details you want in the map. You had this example here so tell me what you want or not want from that map. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:54, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Tough call, Goran tek-en. Not individual settlements or the little islands in the bay. Names of villages, yes; little roads, no. I'd like more of those lovely Rs that can come from that database: ideally, I'd want a clickable map where a click leads to a description, and if you could write all those articles that would be great. :) If the nature reserve Trollskogen could be green that would be nice, with the wall marked, but that map doesn't really give that much detail. And I don't see Lange Erik on the map, but that's at Olands norra udre; nor do I see Swiks marked there: the article has the coordinates, but I don't know how correct those are, and whether you can easily incorporate that. I'm afraid of asking too much, so you decide how much time you want to put into it: I'm grateful for anything, really. Tack sa mycket, Drmies (talk) 20:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Drmies So you know some swedish, great. Now you can look at this draft and give me feedback.

Tell me what you think and we will take it from there.

This with a clickable map is possible but not right now and as you guess I'm not a person that write articles, I do graphic work. What one could do is to make a map in google maps and link the Rs and other things as you wish. Then you can link that map into an article. I don't know if this is OK with google or wikimedia but it can be done. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:39, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

• Wow! That is really something. You got the wall and the wreck and the lighthouse...great. Can you add the names for those three little islands, Stora grundet, Borren, and Lilla grundet? (Borren is the little one in the middle, but I'm sure you know that.) Besides that, I think this will suffice for the present purposes. If I think of anything else we can always add, right?

  As a side note, I am learning how to navigate this site and it's a gold mine; I suppose that's where you pulled some info from. Also, I'm going to have my GIS colleague take a look at your work; he'll be impressed. Thank you so much for your hard work! I'm really very impressed. Drmies (talk) 19:55, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm happy you like it. Even though I'm from Sweden I don't know much of this area or subject, so I learn a lot all the time working with maps and illustrations, it's great. Yes we can add stuff at any time, just contact me.

I will need the following;

• Name of the file
• Description
• Category/ies

to be able to upload it as a new file.

I agree with you that Riksantikvarieämbetet is a fantastic place for info like this. I would like to learn more about how to produce maps with GIS so I would be interested in getting in contact with your colleague. I have a GIS program but haven't got that deep into it yet and I'm also interested in Googles new map engine which is a GISsystem. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:02, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Now it's uploaded Map of Grankullaviken, Öland.

• Did you want that other map also? --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:35, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks! Other map--a clickable one? Well, sure--but that's a hell of a lot of work and I wouldn't be able to do much with it immediately (would have to write all those articles...), so I think I should really say no, thanks, because your labor would not be quickly displayed for all the world to see. Goran, you've done great--thanks. Drmies (talk) 18:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
• Drmies You misunderstood me. This is what you wrote also "Now, it would be nice to have another map, maybe of Trollskogen and the surrounding area, with the cute Rs indicating archeological finds--I could use that in Böda socken also." and that was the second map I was thinking of. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:55, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

• Sorry, you're right. I kind of skipped over that because the map you made has so much already. It would be great to have a map for Böda socken, but I can't really find a good example. In addition, I'm thinking now that a map of the northern part (basically from Byrum Sandvik up) would be great, but one of the features that map ought to have is a clear demarcation of Böda kronopark and the park's own map isn't always clear (to me). The kronopark's map is here and that can serve as a model; if you think you can turn that into a less touristy map, with clear boundaries and the main settlements (Böda, Bödabukten, Byrum (and Sandvik, and a little mark for the Byrum's raukar), Kyrketorp, Böda hamn, Mellböda, Byrum, Byxelkrok, Skaftekarr, Grankulla) and roads (esp. 136, of course), that would be great, yes. Drmies (talk) 01:25, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Drmies Now there is a draft for you to check out and give me feedback on. The Kronopark is really hard to get a clear view on it's boundaries. I'm not sure if I got it right, but I tried.

How come that you, on the other side of the world knows anything, and has interest in a small island in Sweden?

Get back to me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:02, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Goran, another great job. But let me call on the other expert, Bishonen--Bish, the left top of the island is not part of the park, right? Goran, I vacationed there a few times and I am quite fond of that island, that's why, I suppose. Plus, I was on a bicycle, and that's a great way to learn an area. Thanks again, and let's wait and see what Bishonen says.

Wait--now I see it: the blue line is Boda socken, not the Kronopark; green is the park, not simply trees. Is that correct? Then maybe a small legend indicating that the boundary is for the socken is helpful, since the name is placed in the bay, as if it were the bay. And can you stick Trollskogen in, with a little line for the boundary? Drmies (talk) 22:10, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm the farthest thing from an expert on Öland you're likely to find in Sweden, Drmies. I do think the sandy beaches in the extreme northwest aren't part of the park, but I'm merely drawing conclusions from Sveaskog's map, i e the park owner's map. As you know, that map is infuriatingly ambiguous, but the northwest beaches seem to be out of it, and indeed what would Sveaskog want with sand? With the exception apparently of a tiny dinghy-shaped bit of sand... see it? Bishonen | talk 22:51, 26 March 2014 (UTC).

Drmies New version, update the page and give me feedback.
I agree on the map, it's really bad. Anyway what I did was to remove all that WAS NOT the Kronopark and this is what I ended up with. And as Bishonen writes, Sveaskog is a forest company so I guess it's all forest more or less. Get back to me if you want any more changes and give me;

• Name of the file
• Description
• Category/ies

so I can upload it when it's done, thanks.
You did ask for two maps but to me they are almost the same or did I misunderstand you? --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:34, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

• Goran, it looks great. Yes, they do look at bit similar, but this one is much bigger and more topical for Böda socken, which is maybe what we should call it. (And I should write up Road 136.) Category:Maps of Öland should suffice for now. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 21:51, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Map_workshop#Map_of_Grankullaviken_requested What do you mean by "And I should write up Road 136", Is there anything I should change? --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:40, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

No, I just mean that I should write that article... Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:47, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Now it's uploaded here Böda socken.

• For the other map you talked about, is this what you meant. Give me feedback on it, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:18, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Drmies I haven't got any feedback on the draft above, please get back to me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:50, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

• Looks great, Goran tek-en, both of them, but...Byrum's raukar do not seem to be in the right place: they are above Boda in both maps. Are the coordinates in the article incorrect? That's my only comment, really. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:23, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
• You know, that Boda socken map really looks wonderful. I like the compass rose, haha. And I see you got the top part of Hornsjön in there. When I get some time, and I get my thoughts together, I'll file a request for a map of that area, but I'll do that separately from this one. Thanks again, Drmies (talk) 16:26, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Drmies Sorry for that. Now you can look at the new ones and you probably have to update the page to get the new ones.

northern

Böda

Let me know if they are ready now? --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:56, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

• I looked at a whole bunch of maps. I think it's best to remove the "locality" color from Byrum Sandvik--if it's a locality at all, it's not much. In addition, the names now kind of run together: let's scrap "Byrum Sandvik" altogether. Thanks Goran, Drmies (talk) 20:19, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Drmies New versions, and you probably have to update the page to get the new ones.

northern

Böda. Give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:52, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Goran, they look great--thank you so much. I appreciate all your help and your being open to suggestions. Drmies (talk) 18:43, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Böda socken has it's new version and the other you can find here Northern Öland. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:15, 6 April 2014 (UTC)  Done

Distribution of North American Canis

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 – Lommes (talk) 21:18, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

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Article(s): Gray wolf, Eastern wolf, Red wolf.

Request:

A map based on the second map on page 8 of this pdf document, illustrating the modern distribution of wolves, coyotes and their hybrids, with the addition of the range of the red wolf (shown here [10]), which is oddly ommitted in the pdf file. The names should be written in their Latin, rather than English forms, as this will allow it to be used on foreign language wikis. Mariomassone (talk) 18:40, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Done, or so i think. Have a look Mariomassone, if everything is alright. The legend is in the description, and can be copied to articles from there. Cheers.--DLommes (talk) 13:51, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

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Excellent work! Now all it needs is the binomial names of each species superimposed on each range (the true binomial name of Eastern wolf/coyote hybrids, pictured in orange, is "Canis latrans var."Mariomassone (talk) 19:05, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Just use the legend in the description. It can be added in the caption of any use of the image. This assures easy translatability even for those who do not know how to deal with svg images.DLommes (talk) 21:42, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Is there a way to place the legends side by side, rather than on top of each other? They are taking a lot of space here [11]. Mariomassone (talk) 10:56, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

@Mariomassone: You mean like that? --DLommes (talk) 12:32, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

C. lupus	C. latrans
C. latrans var.	C. lycaon
C. rufus	C. lupus/C. latrans

Doesn't seem to work, as placing it in the infobox cancels it out. Mariomassone (talk) 08:51, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

If straightforward wikitable does not work, try the following, which is wikitable via template. Lommes (talk) 14:24, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

C. lupus	C. latrans
C. latrans var.	C. lycaon
C. rufus	C. lupus/C. latrans

Perfect, thanks. Mariomassone (talk) 17:53, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Stale Map of wolf evolution

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Article(s): Gray wolf/Eastern wolf/Red wolf

Request:

A map with text included, based on the map present on page 117 of this google book here -- Mariomassone (talk) 19:33, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Comment The reference states that the map is copyright (based on the underlying data) and that is impossible to circumvent as there is no other way to show the evolutionary tree. Sorry, but it looks like your request is unworkable as it stands. ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 21:05, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

I don't quite see why the version i made below should infringe on their copyright. The actual data can not be copyrighted, the shape of a tree diagram neither. The only thing that can be copyrighted is the presentation, and I'd argue my version differs quite a bit. What are your opinions?DLommes (talk) 17:27, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi DLommes. As far as I can see, the only difference in your version is that you moved "Eurasia" and "North America" from the top of the diagram to the bottom. If I put a world map behind that, then the labels will appear in the Antarctic Ocean, which doesn't make sense. Let me see if I can come up with an alternative interpretation then I'll get back to you. Best, ► Philg88 ◄ ^♦talk 06:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done ► Philg88 ◄ ^♦talk 09:51, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

If you look at Gray_wolf, then the image in the book we were working from is misleading. The Gray wolf exists in North-America AS WELL AS in Eurasia. The image in the book and both our derivatives suggest otherwise. I propose we just scrap the whole Map thing then and just use my diagram without the gray bars. I will change it accordingly. But if you have another idea, I am open. Cheers.DLommes (talk) 21:07, 2 April 2014 (UTC

@DLommes I've modified the map to take that into account. Please let me know whether you want to use it or not. Cheers, ► Philg88 ◄ ^♦talk 04:56, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

@Philg88 Yours is definetly much nicer than mine. But there are a few small problems:

1. The big one: Your map suggests geographical distribution. If you look at File:Present_distribution_of_wolf_subspecies.gif the different subspecies are spread all over nothern america.
2. The dates refer not to the specific branches, but to the point in time when they split. So the big split happened 1-2mn years ago, the Coyote / Eastern wolf split then ~200k years. Please move the labels accordingly.
3. "Eastern wolf", not "Eastern Canadian Wolf" is the name Wikipedia uses.
4. Eastern wolf and Red wolf should have separate branches, as these are different species, or so I believe. Inversely, the subspecies of Grey wolf should not be more prominently branched than the Eastern wolf / Red wolf split. But that is just something i believe, i do not really know. I will invite some people from the wolf pages over to take a look.
5. I would crop your map on the left side.

Thus I feel that my diagram might just be a better fit. It does only one thing (evolutionary descent), but it does not suggest anything else. Having said all of that, your map is, once again, MUCH NICER than mine, and if we (perhaps with the help of the wolf people) can adapt your map then I'd be more than happy to lobby for your map. I have no emotional investment in my diagram, i just think that (at the moment) it is potentially less confusing. Thanks for your work. I will go find wolf people now.DLommes (talk) 12:26, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Let's see what the wolf people say :) ► Philg88 ◄ ^♦talk 13:15, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

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I personally prefer the full map on purely aesthetic grounds, though I'd suggest replacing the English names with the binomial latin ones, that way it can be used on foreign language wikis. As for the graph, I don't think the grey backgrounds were misleading, as they were meant to illustrate the geographical origin of these species, not their current distribution.Mariomassone (talk) 18:26, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

@Mario, what about using a map of the coastline at, say, 21 Cal Years BP:

North Atlantic 21,000 Cal Years BP-Modern

Stale War in Somalia (update)

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  Map of zones of control in the War in Somalia

Article(s): War in Somalia (2009–)

Request:

The map is quite good in principle, but was last updated in March 2013 – since then, the zones of control have shifted a bit again, as can be read in 2013_timeline_of_the_War_in_Somalia and 2014_timeline_of_the_War_in_Somalia. It'd be great if someone could take half an hour of their time, go through the timeline since the last update and update the zones of control as described therein. —Nightstallion 11:56, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

If you would list the changes to be made, this would make it much easier.--DLommes (talk) 18:34, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Stale Philippine map in the Tagalog Language topic/subject

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Hi!

I would like to request that the Philippine in the Tagalog Language topic/subject be edited, to also highlight the Palawan islands. Palawan is part of MIMAROPA which are Tagalog speakers. In fact in another link which redirects to MIMAROPA, Palawan is shaded/highlighted on map shown there. It was not highlighted in the map under this subject matter, to supposedly show the places/provinces where Tagalog speakers are located. I have placed links below of the maps (1st link Tagalog Language and 2nd link MIMAROPA map), for your reference.<rhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Katagalugan.pngef><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph_locator_region_4b.png/ref>

Hoping for your kind assistance. Thank you in advance!

Chiqui Mariano

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Request:

Details of your request go here... -- 2601:1:2B80:17A:8558:C79:CDE6:3F1F (talk) 19:52, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

You say "I have placed links below of the maps". But you have not provided links to the maps, instead you have provided invalid URLs. I believe that what you want could easily be done, but I do not know what map you want changed, nor what change you want made to it. Maproom (talk) 10:24, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

@Maproom: I think he intended to link to File:Katagalugan.png and File:Ph locator region 4b.png. Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:37, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok. So should I treat this as a request to edit File:Katagalugan.png, making Palawan and the islands between Palawan and Mindoro the same colour as Mindoro? Maproom (talk) 20:07, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Resolved LTE (telecommunication)

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  World Map of country activity

Article(s): LTE (telecommunication)

Request:

Please change the colour of India to match that f South Africa in accordance with this -- Lihaas (talk) 16:02, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

THat was easy.  DoneLommes (talk) 16:35, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Resolved Blank very-large World map request

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 – Goran tek-en (talk) 17:41, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Article(s): [[]] Request: Hi, It is possible for the world location map to be in a bigger resolution than posted as 2000px... can you try something around 20,000px. I need a map this large to zoom in to certain locations without being pixelated. The map is just perfect for what I need. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.15.72 (talk) 03:57, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

First, it would have been great if you used the --New request-- link above as it provides all the code that is needed. Also it would be appreciated if you had signed your request here.

 Request taken by Goran tek-en (talk) 17:41, 17 April 2014 (UTC).

You can find the big png here Worldmap location NED 50m 20000-10027. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:41, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

 Done

Resolved Cambridge electoral wards

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Cambridge UK ward map 2010 coloured on Cambridge-Openstreetmap-08-06-13.svg

Article(s): en:Cambridge

Request:

Can someone please vectorise en:File:CambridgeWards.png (and not use Comic Sans)? By the way, where can one check if the boundaries are still valid? cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 22:02, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

@cmglee please check if the boundaries are valid BEFORE you request a map. this way we don't need to do the work twice (once now, and once when you find out that there are new boundaries. thanks.--Lommes (talk) 18:58, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

The Cambridge City Council site does have a fairly basic map showing the current 14 wards.[12] -- [[ axg // ✉ ]] 19:48, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit: The user has already filed a request at the Commons Graphic Lab, which has been answered. -- [[ axg // ✉ ]] 19:52, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

 Done – combined Cambridge_UK_ward_map_2010_coloured.svg on Cambridge-Openstreetmap-08-06-13.svg as on right. cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 16:17, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Resolved LTE (telecommunication)

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 – Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:26, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

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  World Map of country activity

Article(s): LTE (telecommunication)

Request:

Please change the colour of Greece to red as more than half of the population is covered with LTE by two carriers. link 1

link 2 -- Sergiogr Sergiogr (talk) 11:20, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Not easy. 99% of the work will be identifying which of the hundreds of "path"s in the file correspond to Greece. It would have been so much easier if the SVG contained comments to identify the countries. Maproom (talk) 20:35, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

 Done. By the way, you can right-click somewhere on an SVG and hit Inspect element (at least in Firefox) to see which path it is. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:26, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Jackmcbarn, for the tip! I'll be using that. Maproom (talk) 07:09, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Resolved Mashonaland East districts - map error

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Article(s): Districts of Zimbabwe and Mashonaland East Province

Request:

Please, could the districts be correctly labeled. The current map has an obvious labeling error. It lists two districts as "Murehwa". The probable cause is that the two districts used to be a single district named "Murehwa". About 1978 Murehwa District was split into a reduced Murehwa District to the south and the new Uzumba-Maramba-Pfungwe or UMP District to the northwest. This can be seen on the larger map: Davies, D. Hywel; Wheeler, R. G. "Zimbabwe Administrative Areas (as used for the basis of the Enumeration Areas for the Population Census of 1982)". Central Statistical Office, the Department of the Surveyor-General, Zimbabwe. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |lastauthoramp= ignored (|name-list-style= suggested) (help). This can also be seen (using some interpretation) on the constituency map at File:Mashonaland East-constituency2008.gif and on the UN-OCHA map of Uzumba-Maramba-Pfungwe, but it is most clearly seen on the maps at http://www.mapmakerdata.co.uk.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/library/stacks/Africa/Zimbabwe/Mashonaland%20East/index.htm. --Bejnar (talk) 19:24, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Done. The anti-aliasing is not as good as I would like, but that's what happens when I use PaintShop Pro, slanted text, and a bitmap. Maproom (talk) 20:20, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Resolved LTE (telecommunication)

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  World Map of country activity

Article(s): LTE (telecommunication)

Request:

Please change the colour of Pakistan to match that of India in accordance with this -- - sms- talk    09:20, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

 Done. Maproom (talk) 09:44, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Need help for editing a svg map

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  Dioceses of Hong Kong Sheng Kung Hui

Article(s): Hong Kong Sheng Kung Hui

Request:

Please erase the white lines within each colour, so that each of the green, red and blue areas will be continuous. The white lines are boundaries of political districts of Hong Kong but not of ecclesiastical dioceses of Hong Kong. -- Hailpeace (talk) 14:11, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

It is my opinion that these lines should stay in the image. Users are most likely familiar with the districts, so they can then use the district boundaries as clues as to the size and extent of the dioceses. We do the same regularly with maps of ancient states (where the current boundaries are shown) and with species distribution maps.--DLommes (talk) 14:25, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

When the territories of the dioceses were drawn, the political district (designated by the government) was used a reference. Although each diocese was formed by grouping several neighbouring political districts, the political districts themselves are not sub-divisions of the dioceses (parishes are). If the white lines are kept, the readers may be misled into thinking that the church divides the dioceses into political districts. --Hailpeace (talk) 14:49, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Similarly for File:Dioceses of Church of England.svg, only the boundaries of the dioceses are shown, but the county boundaries are not. So I think it would be sensible if the white lines of the HKSKH map are removed. --Hailpeace (talk) 14:54, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

THen I would advise you to create a caption like the following: Map of the ecclesiastical dioceses of Hong Kong, xyz in green, xyz in blue, ... Political districts of Hongkong are displayed for reference.

And i also think the english one should be changed as well.

Perhaps you can convince someone else, but according to my understanding this is common practice and should not be changed. DLommes (talk) 14:57, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

 Not done DLommes is quite right. The boundary markers should not be removed per established map conventions, I suggest you follow the advice above. Good luck, ► Philg88 ◄ ^♦talk 15:15, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

I understand it is entirely up to graphists' discretion whether to accept a request or not. However, I believe the "map convention" for dioceses maps is: the map shows boundaries of the dioceses, and does not show other subvisions not used by the church. Examples include: File:EpiscopalChurch-Diocesesmap.png, File:Map of Church in Wales.svg, File:Dioceses of the Scottish Episcopal Church.png and File:Dioceses of the Church of Ireland.png. The Irish one does not even show the national border between the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland. --Hailpeace (talk) 15:56, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Maybe they don't show these things – but they would be better maps if they did. Maproom (talk) 19:14, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Hailpeace removed the lines him/herself. I don't want to make a big fuss about it, i don't really care neither about the lines, nor about the anglican church in HK, but removing them after three other editors said they should stay seems wrong.DLommes (talk) 22:42, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

As DLommes says, a consensus (albeit a small one) indicates that the lines should stay. Any editor is of course free to revert to the previous version of the map and if it becomes a dispute to follow the appropriate process. ► Philg88 ◄ ^♦talk 05:46, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

World Rail Gauge Map

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Article(s): List of track gauges, Track gauge in Europe, etc.

Request:

It would be great if this map could be made into an SVG using the world base map I suggest or some other base map. It would make it easier to zoom in on smaller countries. -- gren グレン 15:05, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

There already is File:Rail gauge world.svg, which is an SVG Map, it is just outdated. If I find the time tomorrow, I will update it. If someone else is fast, be my guest... --DLommes (talk) 21:03, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

I will most likely not do this in the next few days.--DLommes (talk) 14:28, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Iowa senate districts

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Article(s): Iowa Senate and Iowa House of Representatives

Request:

Make a free map of Senate districts and House districts -- CTF83! 01:11, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Anyone??? CTF83! 21:10, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

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Amphisbaenia range map

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Article(s): Amphisbaenia

Request:

The current map (File:World.distribution.amphisbaenia.1.png) is inaccurate, showing, among other things that amphisbaenas occur in Madagascar, in a different area of the Arabian Peninsula from their actual range, and missing their range in Asia Minor. The second page of this article contains an accurate map of Amphisbaenia distribution and I'd like to request that a new map be made for this article based on it. Note that the article has different colors for each Family within the group, and that the range of Amphisbaenia is the aggregate of those ranges. It might also be worthwhile to make a distribution map for each family to be included in the respective articles on those taxa. Cheers! Peter G Werner (talk) 03:01, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

The external link given above gives me a "File not found" message. But this link works. Maproom (talk) 06:42, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

It no longer works, it gives a blank pdf file. And the original link still gives a 404. Maproom (talk) 13:53, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Map of ongoing armed conflicts

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  Map of ongoing armed conflicts. Change is requested for Egypt, China, N. Korea, S. Korea and Paraguay.

Article(s): List of ongoing armed conflicts

Request:

Shading Egypt in red while adding China, the Koreas and Paraguay in orange. Consensus can be found on Rybec's and Greyshark's talk page. The graphists can check the article's discussion as well for more information. -- Fitzcarmalan (talk) 21:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

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Request help for someone else

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Article(s): Various

Request: User Soman asked in the Illustration workshop for help on an Indian election map. Because I run my os on a 486, my computer cannot handle images of that size. Can someone give him a hand? Preferably by making a SVG-map of the data provided by him. Or if he doesn't want that, a png-file (emptied of the results of 2009) of the SVG-file already posted here. Wereldburger758 (talk) 07:46, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Do you want to get a pc donated from Wikimedia Germany?--Kopiersperre (talk) 22:15, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Uploaders opinion(s):

By chance I have seen this request. I have created the map on the right, from which the left one is derived. There already exists a blank png map of the Indian constituencies: File:Lok Sabha constituencies of India.png. What does User Soman want to do ? --Furfur (talk) 08:45, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

World locator map

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Thanks for the large locator world map you uploaded!. [[13]] Is it possible adding the US states as well as the Great Lakes in it as well?

Greatly appreciated! 67.86.15.72 (talk) 12:54, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Stanley in Africa

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Article(s): Henry Morton Stanley's first trans-Africa exploration

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Details of your request go here... -- DePiep (talk) 22:30, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Henry Morton Stanley's first trans-Africa exploration could use a nice graph. -DePiep (talk) 22:30, 18 April 2014 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):

Cross-sections, Antarctic and Tibet/Himalaya

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  Cross-section/transect comparison of Tibetan Plateau and Antarctica

Article(s): Antarctica

Request:

Documented data source

It would be great to have a map comparing the heights of the Tibetan Plateau and the Antarctic, to scale (obviously the vertical scale will have to be much larger than the horizontal scale, but the same scales for both locations). The height of Antarctica is really important to the regional circulation and other features, and it would be great to have a vivid visualization of how tall it is. A N-S transect for Himalaya/Tibetan Plateau, and a 90W-90E one for Antarctica, would work well.

The individual cross-sections, separately, would make useful and informative images in their own rights, and encourage people to modify them to present geological and biozone information.

Showing the under-ice ground surface is nice, but not essential. See the metadata of the image on the right for a data source.

Antarctica example: http://lima.nasa.gov/antarctica/ Himalayan example: http://sciencythoughts.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/how-bar-headed-geese-cross-himalayas.html

-- HLHJ (talk) 11:49, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

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