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File:Raymond Chester, John Fuqua, Ed Hayes, Roland Nicholson, Jr., George Nock, Mark Washington, .jpg

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~~I fully disagree. I took the picture. This was a national championship football team, an historical one because of what happened to HBCU football teams in the following years. Morgan State football~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean Corrigan (talk • contribs) 16:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Undercarriage Layouts Bogie 03.jpg

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File:DSC00220.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) – uploaded by Jewbacca (notify | contribs | uploads).
  • Orphaned, vague description, (I don't think the description reflects what the image says, and I cannot access the previous versions of this file.) and I wouldn't be able to determine where to place this file. –MuZemike 17:43, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Natalie Wood on Yacht.jpg

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File:Natalie Wood on Yacht.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) – uploaded by Wikiwatcher1 (notify | contribs | uploads).
  • Violates WP:NFC#UUI #6 as it is copyrighted by Scope Features which is a press agency. Also fails WP:NFCC#1 as there is a public domain image available and WP:NFCC#8 as there is no commentary on the picture nor even the content of the picture which would be aided by a visual representation. VernoWhitney (talk) 18:49, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This a photo at a time and place relevant to her accidental death, a topic discussed in detail (probably too much detail.) Because it shows her there shortly before the accident, it is a more personal photo, very unlike a typical movie-related image of her career. The image and commentary adds to the understanding of the bio and article. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 18:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I agree with the comments made by the previous user; this is a historically significant photograph, being a candid shot taken a mere two weeks before Wood's untimely death. This may well be one of the last photographs taken of Natalie Wood, and it is a valuable and substantive aid to the accompanying paragraphs discussing Wood's death. Furthermore, I feel it should be noted that the proposal for the deletion of this photograph seems rather arbitrary, considering that there are several other photographs of Wood within the same article which are under copyright just as this particular image is, yet I see no issue being raised with the other photographs. I also wish to disagree with the comment made by the first user with regard to the lack of commentary about the photograph; the accompanying text discusses Wood's death upon the very yacht on which she is pictured less than two weeks after the photograph was taken. Thus, I believe the photograph's significance speaks for itself. R.h.c.afounder1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:06, 8 June 2010 (UTC).[reply]
    Could you tell me how it significantly increase the reader's understanding that she was on a yacht? or anything else, for that matter? VernoWhitney (talk) 11:43, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
By referring to it as "a yacht," as opposed to "the very yacht," it seems you answered your own question. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 16:45, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, except for the fact that it still doesn't do any more than saying "she was photographed on the very yacht two weeks before she died" would. That does not "significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic" nor would its omission be "detrimental to that understanding" as required by WP:NFCC#8. VernoWhitney (talk) 19:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It could be considered an historically significant photo. The other criteria are always subjective, in that for someone very interested in how she looked at the time before she died, it would indeed add significantly to their understanding. It just depends on what the viewer brings to the article. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 00:58, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Sorry, but we've gone through a veritable plethora of copyrighted images of Natalie Wood, and an argument could be made for each of them that they have historic value. In this case, just because they are on a yacht doesn't lend it historical creedence. Wildhartlivie (talk) 08:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion, the significance does not lie in the mere fact that she is pictured on a yacht; its significance is that this may be the last photograph ever taken of Wood, and incidentally, it happens to have been taken on the same yacht that played a major role in her untimely death two weeks later. I would be inclined to say that any "last photograph" that exists of a celebrity of Natalie Wood's stature would in any case be historically significant and relevant to any article which pertains to that person; however, in Wood's case, I feel a final photograph of her is particularly significant because the events leading to Wood's tragic--and somewhat mysterious--death was and remains the subject of much discussion, which lends a certain gravity to this photograph. In a sense, this photograph, as insignificant as it may seem, is one of the few artifacts which provides any smidgen of insight into the bizarre and tragic death of one of Hollywood's most beloved actresses. R.h.c.afounder1 (talk) 23:41, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In addition, the person that some have alleged may have contributed to her death was her husband, Robert Wagner, with whom she is embracing. Wood's sister wants to reopen the investigation of her death. Large sections of her various book bios have included the events leading up to her death. This photo of them together, even without the yacht, would no doubt have significance to many viewers.--Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 01:23, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is anyone contesting that it fails WP:NFC#UUI #6 in that it belongs to a press agency? VernoWhitney (talk) 20:07, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. The rule should be removed due to its erroneous implications: that the U.S. Copyright laws include a higher standard for press agencies. They don't, of course. There is only one copyright law, and it is the same for everyone. Anything that is copyrighted, whether it came from a book, magazine, billboard, newspaper, web site, blog, or movie poster, has the same copyright. How this special rule for "press agencies" got slipped in here is unknown, unless the editor had a conflict of interest. That goes even more for rule #7, for a particular baseball player's baseball card. These rules are invalid on their face since they imply, for example, that a web site photo has less protection than a press agency's, or that a Micky Mantle card is less protected than Barry Bonds'. These rules are not guidelines, but more misrepresentations of law, and should be removed. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 03:58, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So you're not contesting that it's a press agency photo that violates the guideline - you're just saying that the guideline is wrong. You should take that up at WT:NFC. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:32, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I did once on another photo, but no one commented. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 21:39, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
All I can say is that I'll at least comment if you start a discussion there. VernoWhitney (talk) 22:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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