Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trope (religion)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Then two "merge"s do not agree about where to. Sandstein 05:42, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Trope (religion)

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Largely a content fork of Cantillation and stub-level fork of Trope (music). In some ways also functions as a fork of Trope (disambiguation). Ibadibam (talk) 03:47, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:01, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:01, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 05:01, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge-I came across this some month back and found it confusing. It should all be part of Trope (music), as even that page is largely about religious music anyway. The part about the Unity of the Brethren should be moved to Unity of the Brethren--I could add that one subdivision for American Moravians during the communal living era was the "choir"--we do not have a "choir (religion)" article just because they borrowed a musical term for polity-related purposes.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 18:52, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Are you suggesting that Cantillation also be merged to Trope (music)? The two seem like quite distinct concepts. Most of the content in the article under discussion relates to Jewish cantillation. Ibadibam (talk) 23:16, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The short answer is "no." Long answer: To the best of my knowledge, cantillation is an example of (or at least involves) one of the older forms of trope in music. Trope (music) needs a discussion of cantillation more than cantillation needs a discussion of trope. If there is any novel content in trope (religion) that also needs to be copied over to cantillation, please do that. I did not check for this possibility. But at the same time, Trope (music) also needs a summary of the material. If for some reason it is decided that trope (religion) should be merged to cantillation, someone should still determine that the summary of cantillation on trope (music) is adequate.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 20:48, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - the only reference here is OED, but OED does not mention trope in a religious or musical setting, only as "a figurative or metaphorical use of a word or expression" - covered in the Cantillation article, not notable enough for a stand-alone article - with no references, this article does not meet WP:GNG, "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list" - Epinoia (talk) 16:51, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kpg jhp jm 06:02, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Judaism. Syndicater (talk) 20:49, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This article is mainly a much shorter substitute for Cantillation (the Jewish use of "trope"). The main Christian use of "trope" is already covered in Trope (music), and I don't understand what the Moravian Church use of "trope" is supposed to mean, but it can be covered in some other appropriate article. Since we already have a disambiguation page at Trope, this article covering three topics inadequately, two of which already have better articles, is not needed. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 06:42, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 07:05, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Content fork, would be redundant to the dab, as discussed above. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 02:37, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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