Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tommy Hayden (fighter)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 09:15, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tommy Hayden (fighter)

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Fails WP:MMANOT, WP:ATHLETE, and WP:GNG. TreyGeek (talk) 03:57, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. TreyGeek (talk) 03:58, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. TreyGeek (talk) 03:58, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I dont think the article should be deleted, I found a source and put it in the article, and he did well against a tough opponent on short notice. I think that he'll do well in the UFC, and that he's notable enough. Glock17gen4 (talk) 09:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep An odd nomination considering that the page was nominated on the same day as the fighters first fight for a notable organization (a criteria for establishing notability). Unless the fighter is released in the next few days from his contract, I would argue against deletion at this point in time. There is no point in deleting the page, only to recreate it later after two more fights. Clearly non-notable fighters are ones who are not contractually positioned to become notable in short order. The exclusive multi-fight nature of his contract is why I don't believe this is crystal balling. If people find this unpalatable, I don't see why the page can't be redirected to UFC on FX: Guillard vs. Miller for the time being. Osubuckeyeguy (talk) 20:18, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

may as well Keep it... ...because the current trend for all MMA fighters on Wikipedia seems to be that if they compete for the UFC just the once with very little or no actual articles on him outside of the UFC event they competed on can stay on here, so lets stop messing around and just keep it because we know its just going to happen, but if this does, I've decided that if all fighters who competed a single bout for any top tier promotion other than the UFC like Strikeforce and Bellator all have a legit reason to have their own page, and that I will begin to create pages for each of them with their fight records in their and just one link saying they competed on one of a top tier promotion's card. BigzMMA (talk) 09:17, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't make up your own WP policies. If you want that to be true then get consensus to modify WP:MMANOT. Papaursa (talk) 02:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Right now he doesn't meet any of the notability criteria at WP:GNG or WP:MMANOT. If he has 2 more UFC fights he will meet the criteria at WP:MMANOT. If a decision had to be made right now, I think redirecting it would be the best option. It might be nice to delay any decision until we see if he gets those 2 additional UFC bouts. Papaursa (talk) 02:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to UFC on FX: Guillard vs. Miller If he gets enough UFC fights his article can be stored, but assuming he'll get them is WP:CRYSTALBALL. Astudent0 (talk) 20:54, 24 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No independent coverage, fails WP:GNG. Mt king ^(edits) 02:04, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per coverage in sources independent of the fighter and promotion he fights in that specifically cover him, such as "Tommy Hayden targeted for UFC on FX 1 slot against Fabricio Camoes". --Temporary for Bonaparte (talk) 16:45, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bryce (talk | contribs) 01:11, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It would be ridiculous bureaucracy to delete it and recreate when he fights two more bouts. Alternatively, delete it if he does not fight two more instead. A412 (Talk * C) 19:50, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep He appears on the UFC website's list of fighters, he has been significantly covered in MMA related articles. There is no reason to delete this page. JadeSnake (talk) 20:55, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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