Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Solomon (unit)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Whether a redirect to Wine bottle#Sizes, which contains the same information, should also be created is a separate editorial decision. Sandstein 09:25, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Solomon (unit)

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Wikipedia is not a directory or dictionary for non-notable units of measure. — kikichugirl ^speak up! 08:40, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or possibly redirect to Wine bottle#sizes. No need for a separate article. I've added it to Solomon (disambiguation). Clarityfiend (talk) 09:27, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Wikipedia contains extensive information about weights and measures and so it should, as this is standard encyclopedic content. Merger into wine bottle#sizes, as suggested above, seems a sensible alternative to deletion per our editing policy. Andrew D. (talk) 09:58, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The source is not sufficiently reliable to be used for novel claims that cannot be verified in other sources. The source appears to have no more than a single row in a table to justify the statements in this article, and there is no encyclopedic information available to make an article beyond a dictionary definition. This is part of a big issue; see my comment at DRN. All the pages should be considered together, rather than having fragmented discussions. Johnuniq (talk) 10:13, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Wine bottle where the size is already mentioned. AadaamS (talk) 12:49, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reply From Shevon

Not to Delete: I have provided the link to the wine bottle article too. Conversation factors are too available, so in future this article can be further improved for example by adding suitable pictures etc.

Keep: I have provided the link for the wine bottle article too.

Not to Delete: Mr. Johnuniq, I always provided you other sources too. This source has its own references and bibliographical list. As you mentioned earlier, you are always referring sample chapters of the book, which is available online and which does not include the referencing list and bibliography list, and consequently providing un-reliable feedbacks. Please providing feedback buy the book and pursue it carefully.

Not to Redirect: rather redirecting to the sub-article in Wine bottle article, in which variety of sizes are discussed, I have already included a link as a referring page for the wine bottle article

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Shevonsilva (talk • contribs) Shevonsilva, please start to sign your comments in the normal manner, as you have been asked to do. Not doing so can cause confusion in talk pages and other discussions. PamD 22:09, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I have WP:BOLDly indented and bulleted Shevonsilva's comments so as not to be perceived as four individual !votes. — kikichugirl ^speak up! 22:26, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Redirect to Wine bottle#Sizes~~ Delete: the Oxford English Dictionary does not recognise this wine bottle size (in contrast to "Nebuchadnezzar", which, when spelled correctly, is there defined as "An extremely large wine bottle, used esp. for champagne and usually equivalent to twenty ordinary bottles or 15–16 litres"). The article Wine_bottle#Sizes lists it, but sourced only to a self-published list of bottle sizes of dubious reliability, but there are various other sources which support this name (eg http://www.bigbottles.co.uk/champagne-bottle-sizes). In the absence of any mention in OED, I do not think this term merits a Wikipedia article to itself. PamD 21:28, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I've found a good reliable source for champagne bottle sizes - the offical champagne producers' website - and checked and sourced all the champagne bottle sizes listed at Wine bottle#Sizes, as a useful bit of cleanup associated with this discussion. They all merit an entry in their respective disambiguation pages, but they do not merit individual articles. And, in particular, they are not "units", merely names given to a particular size of champagne bottle. Have on further consideration changed my !vote to "Delete", as "Solomon (unit)" is not a term likely to be sought, as it is not a unit. PamD 22:26, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@PamD: Oxford English dictionary does not include all the words in English (particularly all the units in the world). Before arguing about the reliability of the source, all the references in the bibliography list must be properly pursued.

Wikipeadia currently include the unit in Wine_bottle article too. (Through a simple search through a web search engine, many places of the usage of the unit can be found.) Shevonsilva (talk) 01:23, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:03, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wine-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:03, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:03, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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