Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Santa Das Kathiababa
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 02:42, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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This is a person who has no coverage in reliable sources in English. A Google search for Santa Das Kathiababa produced six results, including three Youtube videos, and two Facebook pages. The article has ten "citations": three of these are to Wikipedia pages, and three to www.exoticindiaart.com. -- Toddy1 (talk) 08:25, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
It is also a recreation of an article that was previously deleted, both as a result of deletion discussions, and as a result of speedy deletions (see User talk:Srabanta Deb). (Sorry I did not spot this earlier.) -- Toddy1 (talk) 08:48, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Srabanta Deb has added more citations since the above was written. I read at the first four using Google translate: 1, 3, and 4 were just padding, and do not seem to support anything; 2 does support content - some of the sentences in the article were copied and pasted from the Google translation without attribution. Source 2 is sanatantv-live; this is not an independent source; whether the information in sanatantv-live about his legal career is true or not would need to be confirmed by secular sources.-- Toddy1 (talk) 06:54, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- Srabanta Deb made a new version of the article on this person at Santadasji Kathia Baba at 10:32, 9 September 2023 (UTC), so I have added that to this AFD discussion. -- Toddy1 (talk) 15:45, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- Srabanta Deb has added more citations since the above was written. I read at the first four using Google translate: 1, 3, and 4 were just padding, and do not seem to support anything; 2 does support content - some of the sentences in the article were copied and pasted from the Google translation without attribution. Source 2 is sanatantv-live; this is not an independent source; whether the information in sanatantv-live about his legal career is true or not would need to be confirmed by secular sources.-- Toddy1 (talk) 06:54, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
- A person is famous only if his name or work is on Google. was a chief religious guru of the Nimbarka Sampradaya of Hinduism. He has millions of fans and followers. His devotees and followers request that Wikipedia should have this Santa Das Kathiababa edit on a trusted server so that his followers and new generation people can know about the life of Santa Das Kathiababa. So please do not delete this article. Srabanta Deb (talk) 09:11, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Notability says:
Information on Wikipedia must be verifiable; if no reliable, independent sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article.
I searched on Google to try to find reliable sources on the topic, but I could not find any. The Wikipedia article you have created for the nth time only has one source that I consider plausible, an article in The Telegraph (India), Janmashtami at ashram, by Dalia Mukherjee, 22 August 2014, but all the information about Santa Das Kathiababa in the article was provided by Joydeb Kumar Sarkar, the secretary of the ashram. If he really does have "millions of fans and followers", there ought to be coverage of this in reliable sources - so where is it?-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:29, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Notability says:
- My request is not to delete this edit from English Wikipedia
- Santa Das Kathiababa is a famous 18th century Indian Hindu spiritual leader, social worker and religious guru.My request is not to delete this edit from English Wikipedia. Thank you Srabanta Deb (talk) 08:34, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[1]
- Santa Sas Kathiababa was a Hindu spiritual leader, social worker, and Hindu religious guru. Why is this edit repeatedly deleted from Wikipedia? A famous person is being disrespected by repeatedly deleting their edits. His followers are expressing a lot of grief. So his followers demand that this edit not be deleted from Wikipedia. Srabanta Deb (talk) 08:52, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[2]
- I would counter that you're disrespecting them by constantly reminding them of this issue. Constantly creating an article and having it deleted, only to be created again, and to be deleted again, is not helping their memory. Oaktree b (talk) 14:16, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Santa Sas Kathiababa was a Hindu spiritual leader, social worker, and Hindu religious guru. Why is this edit repeatedly deleted from Wikipedia? A famous person is being disrespected by repeatedly deleting their edits. His followers are expressing a lot of grief. So his followers demand that this edit not be deleted from Wikipedia. Srabanta Deb (talk) 08:52, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[2]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Authors, Philosophy, Hinduism, and India. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:13, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Google famous is not what we're looking for. I'm not seeing notability due to a lack of substantial coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 14:14, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, not eligible for Soft Deletion. Please provide poilcy-based arguments for Keeping or Deleting this article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:17, 13 September 2023 (UTC)- Delete nothing on books, nothing on google, can't even find a source to confirm this person existed at all. BrigadierG (talk) 00:33, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.