Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Naumoski

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. WP:SNOW MBisanz ^talk 00:32, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Naumoski

A 14 year old professional player? WP:HOAX, and also, he apparently plays for a club in a non-notable league, the club not even having an article. No WP:ATHLETE or WP:BIO notability. -Lilac Soul ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 11:01, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:14, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment According to the BBC Freddy Adu signed a professional contract at age 14, so I wouldn't be so quick to call it a hoax based on his age. Also, I wouldn't rely on the existence of other Wikipedia articles to determine whether a team is notable. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:32, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Google and LexisNexis both turned up dry. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:36, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete though certainly not a hoax. A player of this name is registered with Altona Magic SC of the Victorian Premier League,[1] and the club did play the fixture mentioned in Naumoski's article, although I haven't yet found a team sheet for the game. However, according to Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues, the A-League is the only fully-professional league in Australia, so the player fails WP:ATHLETE. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:37, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no evidence of notability, even if not a hoax. --Dweller (talk) 11:38, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no evidence of notability. Seems to fail WP:ATHLETE -- Alexf^(talk) 13:05, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - if the player is real, then he is definitely not notable. Giant Snowman 13:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC

(Posted by unknown) Well, I wasn't able to comment on this... I decided to edit the page, and all this about not being a notable club or something is rediculous as this club is in the Victorian Premier League and has made plenty of appearences in finals. So whoever has written this obviously hasn't done his/her homework. I advise the editors of wikipedia to search the club on the internet or the league VPL (Victorian Premier League) and check if the team exists. I would also like to note on the fact that an editor has doubted this player of his age which isn't a very effective factor of judging proffessional athletes as there has been football(soccer) players that have signed contracts with clubs in the most succesful football leagues from 15 years of age. So why should this player be doubted for playing with a 'club within Victoria.' This edit will probably be removed but i ask whoever it is to read this to consider the facts that i have stated above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.108.99.231 (talk • contribs)

You were - and are able to comment on this. Notability is strictly defined on Wikipedia, to stop people posting articles about themselves, their dogs and their dog's favourite toy. See WP:N. If a club plays at a sufficiently high level, a player automatically is deemed notable because of WP:ATHLETE. For lesser clubs, the player needs to meet the higher bar of notability outlined here. Sorry, it's confusing and difficult to grasp for newbies, but we were all newbies once. NB if you register for an account, it'll cost you nothing, take about a minute of your time and make communicating with you much easier. --Dweller (talk) 13:08, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Not a hoax, but fails WP:ATHLETE Camw (talk) 06:39, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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