Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prince of Wales–St. Sebastian's Cricket Encounter

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. This discussion needed more engagement to establish a consensus about whether the coverage is substantial or trivial/routine, but unfortunately there were no further comments after the two relists. RL0919 (talk) 03:01, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prince of Wales–St. Sebastian's Cricket Encounter

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This article was deleted via a PROD and was restored. The reasons behind the PROD remain. The article is about an inter-school cricket match, which although played since 1933, lacks wider historical significance. The article is largely based around WP:NOTSTATS and WP:TRIVIA, so lacks any depth in writing to establish notability and the sources correspond to this, being all pretty much WP:ROUTINE. As school cricket is considered minor cricket, there would have to be a historical significance to satisfy WP:NCRIC; in this case, I can't see any. Matches such as the Eton v Harrow match meet this requirement, and the Royal–Thomian match is probably the closest Sri Lankan match to meet this requirement. It might be better to expand the Big Match article to detail all these matches there, using reliable sources and stepping away from a long list of stats and trivia. In their current form, all (with the exception I believe of the Royal–Thomian match) fail WP:GNG. This article also uses incorrect terminology: Test and ODI matches won't be played by a school cricket team!!! StickyWicket (talk) 09:09, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Sports, Cricket, and Sri Lanka. StickyWicket (talk) 09:09, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the article is poorly written in places, and bloated with trivia and statistics, as the nomination states. However, the match appears to get decent coverage in the Sri Lankan national press each year, plenty enough to meet WP:GNG in my opinion. Harrias ^{(he/him) • talk} 09:20, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I think there's enough here for a GNG pass, although large amounts of the article could be shortened or removed entirely. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 08:58, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep When talking about WP:NCRIC, cricketers who have played in this tournament from both sides have represented the game in Sri Lanka national cricket team, including 1996 World Cup winner Romesh Kaluwitharana and Sri Lanka Captain Duleep Mendis. The current players representing Sri Lanka include Oshada Fernando, Vishwa Fernando, Avishka Fernando, Praveen Jayawickrama and Amila Aponso, all of whom are from St. Sebastian’s and Kusal Mendis and Lahiru Thirimanne are from Prince of Wales'. And other players who have played for the SL national team are mentioned in the article itself. And Amila Aponso will be played in MLC. And for WP:GNG as fellow Wikipedian Harrias said this tournament is getting decent coverage in the Sri Lankan national press each year. And in the recent years, matches are showing live on satellite tv service Dialog TV channel 140 in Sri Lanka, and it's live streaming on thepapare.com and on the ViU streaming app worldwide. (Please see this news article if you need any verification). Userpwc1 (talk) 14:36, 18 May 2022 (UTC)— Userpwc1 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

WP:NOTINHERITED applies. Just because notable people have played in this tournament, it doesn't necessarily make the tournament itself notable. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:40, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Userpwc1 you've misunderstood NCRIC, just because an individual has gone onto play at a higher level, it doesn't mean the cricket club, match, or league they might have played in is notable. My local cricket club had the Lillywhite family play for them, but the club doesn't have an article because it isn't notable in its own right. StickyWicket (talk) 22:41, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom, this is just WP:TRIVIA. No prejudice against an unevolved editor creating a new article in the future if they can demonstrate notability, but this current article is junk that doesn't prove it passes WP:GNG. Best to delete it and start again. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:40, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:37, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 02:51, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.