Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Milancy Khongstia

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ^BE _CK ^Y _SA ^{Y L}E _S 05:51, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Milancy Khongstia

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There are no reliable sources to prove that those players played in a fully professional league. (Their clubs do play in the professional I-League, but there are no evidence that they themselves played a single game). The wp:NFOOTY defines only players who have played in a fully professional league as notable. Those persons also fail wp:GNG as there are no reliable sources with significant coverage. Vanjagenije (talk) 12:33, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There also more articles with the same issue:

--Vanjagenije (talk) 12:40, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Both: Both teams involved in this domestic cup competition were fully-professional. If both teams in a competitive cup game are fully-professional then they are considered notable. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 12:37, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: No, actually, that is not what the WP:NFOOTY says. That guideline says that notable players are those who "have played [...] in a fully professional league", not those who "have played in a team that plays in a fully professional league". Their teams do play in a professional league, but the question is: have those players ever played in a fully professional league? Vanjagenije (talk) 12:43, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You can go bring this up at the talk page of WP:FOOTBALL but the general consensus is that players who play in official cup competitions in which both the teams come from leagues deemed as fully-professional are notable. If you would like some examples then see Stefan O'Connor or Isaac Hayden. These players have never played in the league but have represented Arsenal in cup competitions. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 12:50, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Those players have played international matches for their national team. They are notable under different criteria. Vanjagenije (talk) 13:10, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

At youth level, that does not make them notable. Only senior international caps grants notability in itself. They are notable for their cup appearances with Arsenal. In that case, Joseph Lalfakzuala, Pawan Kumar, and Nim Dorjee Tamang are notable as they have represented India at the youth levels. Again, take this up with at the talk page of WP:FOOTBALL and that will be the consensus that cup competitions like these in which both teams are fully-professional have notable players. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 13:18, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - long-held consensus at WP:FOOTBALL, as well as WP:COMMONSENSE, would tell you that playing in a competitive Cup game between two teams from fully-professional leagues is just as notable as playing in a competitive League game between two teams from fully-professional leagues. Ergo, these players meet WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 13:35, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - New I-League season starts in two weeks. And when Royal Wahingdoh plays their first game, a lot of these players would have fulfuilled WP:NFOOTY. So for my money, no need to delete them. And as argued above, Federation Cup is a well-known tournament itself. Coderzombie (talk) 13:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - All of them have played competitive fixtures between two fully-pro-league clubs. That this confers notability as a common sense extension of WP:NSPORT is a long standing consensus. Though I feel I should point out that future appearances, as suggested above, donot in fact contribute to notability. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:56, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Passes WP:NFOOTY per the above comments. -- Calidum 06:00, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:00, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Per Sir Sputnik passes WP:NFOOTBALL.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 11:10, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep all - Per GiantSnowman's argument. IJA (talk) 16:27, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - per GS, what is important is that they have splayed in a competitive match in a national / international competition between two FPL teams, not that that match took place within the same FPL. Fenix down (talk) 10:18, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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