Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leo Crockwell

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep the content, but potentially rename. There isn't a scenario where this content will be deleted. Discussion on whether to rename or create an article about the incident and merge it can continue editorially. Star Mississippi 14:41, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Leo Crockwell

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Nominating for procedural reasons, I know the article is well sourced but I am not sure it meets WIKI:GNG, WIKI:CRIME, or WIKI:BIO.--IMR2000 (talk) 11:11, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and Canada. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:30, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I've not heard of the event, coverage seems to be purely local sources. Although it is going to the provincial Supreme Court, so that's something. Would like to see coverage from outside the area to show it was a notable event. Oaktree b (talk) 14:21, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't call the Globe and Mail - the largest national newspaper in Canada, local. Or some of the Toronto-based CBC coverage (most of the coverage is indeed from Newfoundland, but some of the CBC coverage is very national - and the story did receive national attention at the time). I won't opine of the worthiness of the article though - I'm not well versed enough in crime. Nfitz (talk) 23:55, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:52, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The standoff appears to clearly be notable, and I think that the subject would be better covered in an article about the event rather than having a standalone article. He's not a WP:BLP1E; he has received coverage outside of the context of the standoff, but the extent has been much more minor. That being said, no page for the event yet exists, and I would hesitate to delete a notable article on the basis that some merge with a not yet existing article would be a potentially better way of providing coverage. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 19:41, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Move to an event page. Passes WP:SIGCOV. There's not really a policy based reason to delete or move this page as an WP:ATD. We have enough WP:SUSTAINED significant coverage across multiple events to prove notability for a biography page per WP:BASIC, and the coverage is sufficiently national in scope to pass criteria 1 of WP:CRIMINAL. That said per WP:PAGEDECIDE, I do think we might achieve better coverage for editorial reasons as an event page rather than a biographical entry.4meter4 (talk) 14:45, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. There is no event article to move this to. Should this article title just be changed so it is about the event instead of the individual? I don't see a lot of consensus for any particular action right now.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:26, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to the event. The current sources still leave some uncertainty notability, however the event is more likely to be notable than the individual, due to WP:BIO1E. MrsSnoozyTurtle 02:50, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.