Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Killer Dana Surf Shop
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. Cbrown1023 21:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Killer Dana Surf Shop (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - (View log)
Request deletion. This is a non-notable surf shop. The Killer Dana that takes up some of the article is notable, but it has its own article Killer Dana, that does not provide notability to the surf shop. Two editors previously noted the lack of notability when the article was first posted in September 2006. All that the proponents did was merely to assert notability without discussion or citation and to remove the questioning tags. This does not meet WP:CORP, plenty of time was provided. --Bejnar 07:22, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Local surf shop with three stores. Fails WP:CORP. Dragomiloff 05:19, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Global presence- compare to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Jon and further research WP:CORP, as it is clear that this article meets requirements and stands as an article of import, esp to clarify the article Killer Dana from the corporation Killer Dana Surf Shop Be careful to suggest delete without fully understanding justifications for articles such as this to exist, such as in the case with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Jon Eng500 16:12, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- "Global presence"? Where? Because they have a web site (on which they don't even call themselves global either)?
- Ron Jon: There is no comparison. Ron Jon is a widely known tourist destination, and recognized by just about every Floridian (due to Ron Jon seemingly buying more billboard space than any other advertiser), and the billboards are about the first thing tourists see when crossing the border. Killer Dana isn't a tourist destination, it's a surf shop known mostly to surfers; it certainly doesn't have the name recognition throughout the state that Ron Jon has. I don't see this as a valid comparison.
- Furthermore, you don't need a separate article to make a distinction between a geographic location and a surf shop; that can be done in one article. =Axlq 04:55, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Further clarification It doesn't work to use opnions as to which retail has a stronger presence or respect among tourists- this is not provable information and is geographically biased information. Ron Jon's isn't even well known (nor taken seriously) in Southern California- arguably the mecca of surfing in the United States. As someone educated in surfing history, I confirm that Killer Dana is a well known retailer (of over a decade) that is an intregral part of the Southern California surf industry, epecially in Dana Point. The Global referrence was merely explaining the distribution of it's product worldwide. But you are correct, it is not a "global" corp. in the sense that it has headquarters on other continents. Killer Dana is also a manufacturer of apparel, especially Boardshorts- also the largest single retailer of this same item. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eng500 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 17 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]
- Ron Jon isn't taken seriously by surfers in Florida either, which just strengthens my point that it's invalid to compare a surf shop with a tourist destination. Again, you don't need a separate article; all the information I see so far can be made part of Boardshorts or other articles. -Axlq 05:27, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Further clarification It doesn't work to use opnions as to which retail has a stronger presence or respect among tourists- this is not provable information and is geographically biased information. Ron Jon's isn't even well known (nor taken seriously) in Southern California- arguably the mecca of surfing in the United States. As someone educated in surfing history, I confirm that Killer Dana is a well known retailer (of over a decade) that is an intregral part of the Southern California surf industry, epecially in Dana Point. The Global referrence was merely explaining the distribution of it's product worldwide. But you are correct, it is not a "global" corp. in the sense that it has headquarters on other continents. Killer Dana is also a manufacturer of apparel, especially Boardshorts- also the largest single retailer of this same item. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eng500 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 17 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]
- Strong delete. Not notable, I'd recommend speedy per A7 if not for the other AFD. delldot | talk 21:32, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom, preferably speedy. =Axlq 05:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.