Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jason Perlow
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The result was keep. demonstrated to meet GNG by sources provided. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 03:49, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
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Not seeing how WP:BASIC has been met for this individual. Seems to be a lack of independent sources that I can find. JMWt (talk) 10:04, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. JMWt (talk) 10:04, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and United States of America. Shaws username . talk . 11:31, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Appears to now write on occasion for CNN, but no coverage about him as an individual. Likely not meeting GNG (if he ever did, the sourcing now in the article is thin). Oaktree b (talk) 14:47, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Food and drink, Technology, Internet, and Florida. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:50, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: No coverage or independent sources. Doesn't meet WP:GNG Adhi2004 (talk) 10:12, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Originally closed as "delete", but a user has requested reopening the discussion as they believe they have sources to back up notability claims.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 04:29, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Perlow co-founded eGullet, which was a very big deal in the food world in the 2000s. I think there is enough press like this [1] from the Hartford Courant that contributes towards GNG. I will try to find more in the coming days. Thriley (talk) 05:15, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Washington Post story: [2] Thriley (talk) 15:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- It definitely was a big deal. I was also on an episode of the Tony Bourdain Travel Channel show "No Reservations" in 2010, called "Obsessed" which was about eGullet. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6r1n72 and also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUq0uCs3jlw Jperlow (talk) 21:44, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Washington Post story: [2] Thriley (talk) 15:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Thriley (talk) 05:20, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment https://nymag.com/tags/egullet/ is mentioned in places. New York (magazine) owns Grub Street, which has its articles linked to there. https://nymag.com/tags/Jason_Perlow/ is mentioned in places there. Lot to sort through to see if any of it proves Wikipedia notability. Searching for his name and "Off The Broiler" has some results to sort through. [3] A reliable source seems to consider him an expert in his field. [4] Jason Perlow Captures the Soul of the Big Apple Barbecue Block Party Dream Focus 06:03, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The Washington Post article found does give him significant coverage, not just coverage for his company. Search for "Perlow" you can read him mentioned throughout, information about him given out. The article is hidden behind a paywall, so I did a select all and copy before the paywall thing came up, then pasted it in a text file on my desktop to read it. Dream Focus 19:05, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The WaPo article is about the company, not its founder, and notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. It devotes a few sentences to flavor text about the founding, which mention the background of the founder, but this is passing mention. Simply getting your name in a newspaper article doesn't make you Wikipedia-notable. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 00:38, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:25, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep This article does have some good information about Perlow but we do need more sources. ThreeBootsInABucket (talk) 22:35, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Delete. Arguments to the tune "there are bound to be sources out there" or "he is just notable, for sure" do not cut it. The best one can locate is a Washington Post article, but that's about a corporation and not our subject. The rest of the items suggested as sources, e.g. something from New York Magazine, contain insignificant name-drops. -The Gnome (talk) 18:38, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- All the above are true, except for the part about overall lack of sources. I failed to check old newspapers in websites such as Newspapers com. After the sources produced herebelow by Silver seren from that website, I find the proper suggestion to be a Keep for the article. -The Gnome (talk) 12:59, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Additional analysis of the sources would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, voorts (talk/contributions) 01:41, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete due to lack of sources about Perlow specifically. Cortador (talk) 02:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I don't have a position on this article's notability, and I don't see any evidence of WP:MEAT at this time, but it should be noted that the subject wrote about this AfD on his blog https://techbroiler.net/my-wikipedia-page-is-being-deleted-because-im-not-notable-enough/ which was posted to Hacker News https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39754156 where I encountered it. DefaultFree (talk) 17:45, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep This discussion seems like major WP:BEFORE issues. In addition to the two sources discussed above, there's these that were quite easy to find.
- Perlow has been all over the news for decades for various activities and online ventures. SilverserenC 23:39, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
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