Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danda Rawat
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Star Mississippi 18:17, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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No indication that the subject meets the academic notability guideline, as they are an associate professor without a title that satisfies the criteria. I'm also not seeing evidence that their work is highly cited. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
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Weak keep. On Rawat's Google Scholar profile [1] the first two items are co-edited volumes and the third is a survey paper. The actual research contributions start at the fourth item. But I think there are still enough well-cited research contributions (albeit in a high-citation field) to make a case for WP:PROF#C1. ACM Distinguished Speaker is not enough for #C3 but it is also suggestive. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:17, 10 August 2024 (UTC)- Updated to neutral, leaning weak delete because the promotional history of editing is a significant problem and the weak evidence for notability listed in my comment above, while valid, does not outweigh that. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:06, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, @David Eppstein Yeah you're right here but I also added his individual research contributions in an article. Besides, I got that what you want to describe, I will see what else could be added to make that more notable Shariq Khan 1 (talk) 19:22, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, @TechnoSquirrel69 Thanks for reviewing this article. I understand what you mean by, I will try my best to make it notable by adding more sources and depth information about the subject Shariq Khan 1 (talk) 19:19, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also, @TechnoSquirrel69 I want you to revert the tag for "Nominated for deletion". You could had add the other tags for the notability or you can use the tag for the lag of sources. It's just a humble request. Besides, I will make sure to follow all the guidelines accordingly. Shariq Khan 1 (talk) 19:28, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hey Shariq Khan 1, I just want to note that the subject's notability is not within your control as an editor; their notability will remain the same regardless of the state of their article. The articles for deletion procedure requires that the deletion notice remain at the top of the article for the duration of the discussion, which will last at least a week. If the article is kept at the end of the discussion, the tag will be removed. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 19:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, @TechnoSquirrel69 Yeah i can understand that but the subject has done a lot in his career and i think there shouldn't be any notable issue for publishing an article according to Wikipedia guidelines. It might take bit time to get well managed and notable. Thanks to you for guiding me in this particular area. Also it would be really great for me if you could help by guiding me what else should i add to make the subject notable, I am still in learning process and that's the reason i am trying to publish articles on some random notable subjects. Thank you! Shariq Khan 1 (talk) 20:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Again, adding material to the article will not make the subject notable. To become notable as an academic, the subject needs recognition by his peers: heavy citation to his publications, fellowship in major scholarly societies, named professorship or distinguished professor title, and the like. See WP:PROF. Nothing we do here on Wikipedia is likely to have much effect on any of that. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, @David Eppstein yeah I know that and I am adding citations as well and I also added citations on the previous materials you can check that. Shariq Khan 1 (talk) 14:41, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Again, adding material to the article will not make the subject notable. To become notable as an academic, the subject needs recognition by his peers: heavy citation to his publications, fellowship in major scholarly societies, named professorship or distinguished professor title, and the like. See WP:PROF. Nothing we do here on Wikipedia is likely to have much effect on any of that. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, @TechnoSquirrel69 Yeah i can understand that but the subject has done a lot in his career and i think there shouldn't be any notable issue for publishing an article according to Wikipedia guidelines. It might take bit time to get well managed and notable. Thanks to you for guiding me in this particular area. Also it would be really great for me if you could help by guiding me what else should i add to make the subject notable, I am still in learning process and that's the reason i am trying to publish articles on some random notable subjects. Thank you! Shariq Khan 1 (talk) 20:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hey Shariq Khan 1, I just want to note that the subject's notability is not within your control as an editor; their notability will remain the same regardless of the state of their article. The articles for deletion procedure requires that the deletion notice remain at the top of the article for the duration of the discussion, which will last at least a week. If the article is kept at the end of the discussion, the tag will be removed. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 19:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The at-best marginal argument for passing WP:PROF#C1 is outweighed by the vanispamcruftisement. XOR'easter (talk) 20:50, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, @XOR'easter I am totally disagreed with that point Wikipedia:Vanispamcruftisement because there is nothing in the article which triggers anything for an advertisement, spam or something. Besides, the argument for passing WP:PROF#C1 the article meets most of the notability guidelines for academics which can be quite enough for the subject's notability. Shariq Khan 1 (talk) 21:11, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Weak delete. A classic example of a marginal publication record that is borderline for WP:PROF#C1, and nothing else to demonstrate notability. When a BLP is borderline I look to see if there are significant peer awards or other recognition. I see nothing that is convincing. For Shariq Khan 1, arguing here does nothing, you need to improve the article to demonstrate notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ldm1954 (talk • contribs) 23:20, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Or maybe, get the subject to up their game. Easier said than done, I know. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, @Ldm1954 Okay I understand i will try to manage that according to the notability guidelines Shariq Khan 1 (talk) 11:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Very weak keep The citation record for WP:PROF#C1 is indeed borderline, but I tend to favor keeping a borderline case because it seems possible that things will become more definitive before too much longer. But it's absolutely true that none of the other criteria are met. For example, none of the awards listed on the page support notability - they are all either internal awards, minor awards, or grant awards (something professors earn for doing what professors do). The page is also in need of a serious overhaul, not only to remove the tripe but also to make the rest of it form a coherent biographical narrative and provides a clear explanation of the subject's achievements. Qflib (talk) 02:51, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I agree with others above that this is a marginal C1 case and with XOR'easter that this would need to be fundamentally rewritten. This can be cleanly recreated in draftspace once notability can be demonstrated. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:15, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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