Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Culture of rice

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is this article isn't needed. If someone wants to work on this in draft space for a potential merge, let me know. Happy to provide. Star Mississippi 03:16, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Culture of rice

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Written like an ad and does not cite any sources whatsoever. shelovesneo (talk) 01:45, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. shelovesneo (talk) 01:45, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Food and drink and History. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 02:51, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete per A10, duplicates the scope of History of rice cultivation under an incorrect title. And there are major disagreements in key facts. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 02:55, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There is already an article, history of rice cultivation, that covers the intended scope of this. The "culture of rice" article has a title that many people will think is about a different meaning of culture (i.e. arts, customs, etc.). The "culture of rice" article has no citations, which makes its content of little or no value.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:09, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete "Rice cultivation" isn't the cultural history of rice, but I think the article creator meant "culture" as used in "aquaculture", growing stuff/raising plants or animals for human use. Already covered as above, redundant article here. Oaktree b (talk) 15:21, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and Move to "Cultivation of rice" This article was created today. That it entirely overlaps with history of rice cultivation in its current form does not mean a more developed article on the topic would need to be equally redundant. In fact, it's strange that we had an article specifically on the history of rice cultivation, without one on rice cultivation itself. small jars tc 15:42, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Original Creator here

Now, what seems to be the problem here? The article was created last night, so I'm not quite sure if it's expected to be completed in one night. Of course it won't look very good right away. I've added citations today and will continue working on the article. It was one of the articles in the requested articles list. Are we clear? Noel Malik (talk) 00:38, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Noel Malik is correct in saying that is listed at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Applied arts and sciences#Agriculture, and had been there since 17:01, 24 September 2019. The request looks like this:

culture of rice (fr:Culture du riz/ja:稲作)

Nevertheless, the article covers the same ground as history of rice cultivation.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:19, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The request was based on a mistranslation of the French word "culture", which has several meanings, one of which is "farming".-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:32, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the title could be changed to be less ambiguous, but that's besides the point. the article covers the same ground as history of rice cultivation. – Couldn't this only be true if rice cultivation was a mainly historical activity? A more legitimate complaint would be that most of the information you would want on a rice cultivation article is already included between rice and paddy field. small jars tc 09:11, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Noel Malik: I'm not quite sure if it's expected to be completed in one night – the draft feature is helpful if you want to avoid this kind of scrutiny when you've just started writing. small jars tc 09:16, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Original creator here (again)

I'm putting a hold onto this article for now. You can decide if there's a point in producing the article if the content is already there in the History of rice cultivation article, although it doesn't make sense for a "history of rice cultivation" article to exist if there's no article on rice cultivation itself Noel Malik (talk) 21:48, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want an article on present-day rice production, it already exists at rice.-- Toddy1 (talk) 22:37, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.