Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aj Diyan Kurrian

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The result was keep‎. BusterD (talk) 12:56, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Aj Diyan Kurrian

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Delete Fails GNG and WP:NFILM. Source eval:

Mention >> 1. Zafar, Abdul Hafiz (9 January 2019). "نوین تاجک". Duniya News (in Urdu).
Mention, "In memory of Wajahat Atre", Not SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth >> 2. ^ Nadeem, Inaam. "وجاہت عطرے کی یاد میں". Hum Sab (in Urdu). Retrieved 22 April 2023.
Database record >> 3. ^ Jump up to:a b "Punjabi film Ajj Dian Kurrian". Pakistan Film Magazine. Archived from the original on 12 November 2021.
Name in list, not SIGCOV >> 4. ^ Jump up to:a b "Pakistan's "Oscars"; The Nigar Awards". Desi Movies. Archived from the original on 31 May 2022.
Name in list, not SIGCOV >> 5. ^ Jump up to:a b "Nigar Awards (1972 - 1986)". The Hot Spot Online website. 5 January 2003. Archived from the original on 25 July 2008. Retrieved 24 March 2023.

BEFORE showed database and promo, but nothing with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepthy. // Timothy :: talk 09:39, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - per WP:NFO. The film received 2 Nigar Awards including the "best film award" for the year 1977. Its an older film and more offline coverage is highly likely to exist in old Urdu newspapers and film magazines. Insight 3 (talk) 10:13, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Translated excerpt from the source Duniya News:

"... She first acted in Syed Kamal's famous Punjabi film "Aaj Diyan Kadiyan" in 1977. It was a comedy film. In it, she played Kamal's daughter and is studying in college with her five sisters in the film. Late Jamshed Ansari was with him in this movie. In this film, she acted in both Urdu and Punjabi languages. This film by Syed Kamal was the second part of his film "Jat Kadiyan Te Darda" which was released in 1976. Like 'Jit Kadiyan Te Darda', this film of his also turned out to be a super hit."

Translated excerpt from the source Hum Sab:

"... In 1977, Wajahat Atre composed the music for the film "Aj Diyan Kadiyan". A song from this film "Kaliyan Na Jaana Saade Naal Naal Chalo Ji" became the guarantee of success of the film, the chorus song was sung by Naheed Akhtar, Mehnaz and other singers. This song, made in the style of pop music, is heard even today."

Insight 3 (talk) 04:48, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and Pakistan. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:36, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Strong KEEP - per WP:NFO which states "A topic related to film may not meet the criteria of the general notability guideline, but significant coverage is not always possible to find on the internet, especially for older films. This debunks the idea of significant and in-depth coverage of older films... it's not always possible. It's enough that the film was a commercial success at the box-office, when released in 1977. It received the 'Best Film' award and the film's music director received the 'Best Music' award for 1977...Ngrewal1 (talk) 20:09, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Keep voters provide no sources that show notability for the subject, mentions in relation to other topics do not demonostrate notability. // Timothy :: talk 06:18, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Have you even cared to read WP:NFO? Moreover, WP:SIGCOV does not require the subject must be topic of a source: Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. Insight 3 (talk) 08:13, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 07:10, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Satisfies WP:NFILM c.3 - winner of Nigar award for best Punjabi language film in 1977. Discussed in Gazdar's Pakistan Cinema 1947-1997 (OUP 1997), p.155: "The other was Syed Kamal's first Punjabi venture Aj Diyaan Kuriyaan..." Given the time of production and the award, it is completely reasonable to assume there are offline sources (especially in Urdu and Punjabi). Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 13:19, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Specific analysis of sources actually demonstrated to be available would be very helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 06:23, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep the film has been shown by one of the references to be a winner of a nationally recognised award, I'm surprised this is still under discussion Jack4576 (talk) 08:48, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Goldsztajn. This film appears to be notable. BookishReader (talk) 17:54, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I would like to see more discussion on NFO. Keep voters did not explain about GNG, but comments are welcome on this sentence "A topic related to film may not meet the criteria of the general notability guideline, but significant coverage is not always possible to find on the internet, especially for older films".
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Timothytyy (talk) 07:52, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like some people want this discussion to continue for eternity. Will any admin intervene to end these ridiculously absurd relistings? Insight 3 (talk) 08:44, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This film is obviously notable. It is only the absurd worship of online sources in English that means that this is continually relisted. Phil Bridger (talk) 14:13, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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