Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afraj Gill (2nd nomination)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. MBisanz talk 00:16, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Page does not meet notability standards. Specifically, subject is notable for one event, specifically scholastic achievements at the high school level. Although founder of two organizations, neither meet notability requirements. Achieving scholarships or recognition from a Lieutenant Governor does not qualify as an event. Subject appears to be an excellent student who has started some non-notable organizations. Article was created by subject and appears to be heavily self-promotional in nature. Goyston talk, contribs, play 05:55, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- (Please see the comment at the botton because I have changed my thoughts. - Maya) First and foremost, article was certainly not written by the subject - it was written by me (Maya), as an assignment for one of my classes. Starting two organizations, appearing in media and articles for several notable achievements, being actively involved in the community (and, consequently, being rewarded for the efforts) does not constitute one event. If you feel the article is self-promotional in nature, you are welcome to make edits to make it more objective. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MayaBR10 (talk • contribs) 06:56, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Looking at this diff, we can see that what writing you did was some copyediting and internal linking, and that the article prose was in fact mainly written by Afgman (talk · contribs), not you. It's not wholly unreasonable of Goyston to guess that Afgman is the subject, given the name. This edit to blank the AFD notice coming from the subject's university reinforces such a guess. Are you asserting with your claim to have written this that you and Afgman are in fact one person using multiple accounts? Uncle G (talk) 09:43, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The article was very clearly written by User:Afgman. Take a look at the history of the article and see who created it. Furthermore, look at Afgman's contributions to see more evidence that he wrote it in a sandbox and then transferred it into a new article. It seems reasonable to assume that Mr. Gill is the author. Furthermore, there was just now an edit by an IP registered to Queen's University (where Mr. Gill is a student, as you can read from his article) which attempted to remove the AfD notice, which is against policy. Inconclusive but, I would argue, suspicious. Goyston talk, contribs, play 11:09, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Acquiring scholarships is not an encyclopedic event - receiving a Rhodes_Scholarship, for instance, does not qualify you for Wikipedia, even local press writes about it extensively. Receiving good grades is also not an encyclopedic event, as should be obvious. Being actively involved in the community is not an encyclopedic event, as should also be obvious. Neither is starting an organization if that organization is not, itself notable. Please see WP:EVENTS for a definition of what is a notable event. This is an article about an accomplished young man who has not (yet) done anything that meets notability requirements. Strong delete. Goyston talk, contribs, play 11:09, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree with the nomination for deletion. The two main contributors to this article, Afgman and MayaBR10, appear to have been created for the sole purpose of promoting Mr. Gill. Both accounts have been deleted. I suspect these accounts both belong to Mr. Gill but that is merely speculation. The subject of the article is obviously an exceptional student but has not accomplished anything that meets notability requirements. Strong delete Thegoosler (talk) 15:30, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Looking at this diff, we can see that what writing you did was some copyediting and internal linking, and that the article prose was in fact mainly written by Afgman (talk · contribs), not you. It's not wholly unreasonable of Goyston to guess that Afgman is the subject, given the name. This edit to blank the AFD notice coming from the subject's university reinforces such a guess. Are you asserting with your claim to have written this that you and Afgman are in fact one person using multiple accounts? Uncle G (talk) 09:43, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per nomination. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:45, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi, this is Maya again. And for your information, Arfan Gandhi (hence, Afgman) is my close friend who helped me get started on this page. I am very shocked at all your allegations that are aimed at Mr. Gill making this account (you went as far to say that both are HIS accounts, for goodness sake). It's a little funny actually. In terms of the IP address, I use my personal hotspot from my iPhone every single time (I don't have internet connection at my home), so the IP addresses change. Please don't make unproven allegations regarding the individual, but stick to the principles about wikipedia. And the points about notability you have mentioned are correct. I am a new editor and still have a lot to learn (I do want to contribute to this community because it's important, and will improve in the future). I know him quite well (so does Arfan), and we made this account to help make his Wikipedia page for one of our classes (which I checked isn't allowed, I should've done more research). I admit this mistake for two reasons: 1) I know him in person and 2) He does not meet notability guidelines.
My teacher has asked me to go ahead to support the deletion of this page, and I agree. I apologize to Afraj Gill if he is reading all this nonsense that's put him on the spot.
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.