Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adrien Tuison

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 19:16, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Adrien Tuison

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Article about footballer who made a few Ligue 2 appearances but which comprehensively fails WP:SPORTBASIC and WP:GNG. Le Journal de Saône-et-Loire has a number of articles that provide routine coverage (e.g., injury report, match preview and post-match interview) but I can't locate anything that would be WP:SIRS. Jogurney (talk) 18:58, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP - I don't know anything about Adrien Tuison, but I was able to pull 8 different sources on him in less than a few minutes. I updated the article as such. I can't understand why the first move would be to mark the article for deletion over trying to add a few sources. He is a pro player that got significant coverage.KatoKungLee (talk) 20:53, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

With all respect, the 8 sources you added to the article are entries in statistics databases which are not significant coverage. Please take a look at WP:SIGCOV for a better explanation, but in short the source should discuss the subject in depth (as a statistics database almost never does) and the source should be reliable and independent of the subject (such as a newspaper or magazine that exercises editorial control over its content). To answer your question, my first move was to check for SIGCOV, and finding none (please read my statement above), I brought it here for consensus on what to do next. Jogurney (talk) 21:15, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There's hundreds of thousands of soccer players and 8 different sources found him worthy enough to make a page for. That's notable coverage if I've ever seen it. There's players who were captains on championship first division teams that didn't get that much. What is the realististic expectation for a non-superstar player? Maybe a random profile article or two once in a while, but that's about it. And that's not counting that we are limited on English speaking sources and working around the censorship of Google/Bing.KatoKungLee (talk) 01:42, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and France. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:21, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:26, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 21:55, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Snowman, I just updated the article with 8 different sources in under 5 minutes. I'm not sure why marking it for deletion was done over that when it took just about as much time.KatoKungLee (talk) 20:55, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  Databases only, those are ten a penny - where is the significant coverage? Giant Snowman 18:15, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What kind of coverage can really be expected for 2nd division players? Getting sports sites to even talk about lesser top division teams is a feat.KatoKungLee (talk) 20:37, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I don't believe this meets WP:GNG. Sports database entries don't help in terms of establishing notability (point 1 of WP:SPORTCRIT). Hey man im josh (talk) 21:08, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - as per SPORTBASIC, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. (emphasis mine). Since there does not appear to be a way for Tuison to meet this standard, he does not pass SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:19, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.