Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2013–14 Holywell Town F.C. season

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The result was delete. j⚛e decker ^talk 02:11, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2013–14 Holywell Town F.C. season

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Contested PROD on the grounds that it appeared to meet GNG and wa swell written. Quality of writing is irrelevant to notability, and there is no evidence of GNG in the article as every single reference points to the Club's own website and is therefore a primary source. The original concern remains that this is a team that competes someway below the "top professional league" standard required by WP:NSEASONS and there is no indication that this season in the club's history garnered anywhere near the level of significant, reliable, non-routine coverage required by GNG. Fenix down (talk) 09:02, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails WP:GNG/WP:NSEASONS. Giant Snowman 09:12, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per my original prod rationale, I don't see how this individual season is significant enough for a stand alone article, and the team does not play at a high enough level for the season to have inherent notability. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 11:16, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - meets WP:GNG with media coverage of recent season and recent Welsh Cup semi-finals. Article needs to be improved, not deleted, adding sources from other than the team itself. Media coverage examples of various seasons are [1] [2] [3] [4] Nfitz (talk) 17:38, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nfitz. Quite a few major problems with your sourcing. Firstly, the daily post is a regional paper in Wales. Not even national level for a tiny country. You are well aware that that level of reporting doesn'tget close to ggnu. Almost all local papers report on low league teams. The third source is dire t from uefa and is a primary source promoting one of their own competitions. The final source is routine match reporting on the BBC and is extremely brief at that. Fenix down (talk) 20:25, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The final report is quite routine I admit, but otherwise the sources are quite acceptable. The Daily Post is one of only a half-dozen Welsh daily's. I'm not aware of any national Welsh papers. If you looking for a higher non-existent standard then there are WP:BIAS concerns. Nfitz (talk) 13:51, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They are still reports from regional papers, such coverage is legion throughout British football. A higher standard would perhaps be a national paper? As wales is part of Britain, I would start by trying to find coverage at that level perhaps. Seems obvious to me. It also seems obvious that it is unhelpful to through accusations of bias around without elaborating. I presume as you did not that your comment was not serious. Fenix down (talk) 15:58, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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