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Lee Yil Refimprove tag
Hi! I saw you added the tag to the Lee Yil page I made, and am wondering what kind of additional sources you would like me to add. I only added citations for reputable books and journals, and added as many outside sources (with a focus on English-language publications for accessibility) from established scholars as possible. There aren't too many since the page is on a Korean critic who is not well-known outside of Korea, but I can take a look for more Korean-language sources if you think that would help. Dadadoenjang (talk) 14:27, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Dadadoenjang: I'd recommend that you add sources that Wikipedia deem reliable that are either in Korean or English. I honestly do not care about the sources' languages as long as they give substantial coverage of the subject in addition to being reliable and unbiased. In fact, I've used tons of Korean sources to expand T Express and Imsil Cheese Theme Park myself! The format of the source does not matter to me (be it websites or books, I am still fine with them as long as they are reliable). #prodraxis connect 14:45, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- I can definitely look for some more Korean sources, but just to clarify, do you think the current set of sources I have are not reliable? They're all published books and journals from major publishers. Or is it that there are not enough sources written by someone other than the subject of the article? I cited him quite heavily since he is a published writer himself for sections focused on themes in his writing, but also added some citations from scholars who have accessed and examined his work as a critic. I'm still not too sure what kind of sources you want me and others editing the page to add. Dadadoenjang (talk) 14:56, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Dadadoenjang: First things first, I would like to see more sources that are independent of Lee Yil, as Wikipedia prefers secondary over primary sources. The external sources seem reliable to me, but I am not too sure about the heavy use of primary sources here. The sections titled "Early Life", "Education", "Early Work in Paris" under Careers, as well as "Publications" and "Awards" also needs more sources to back up the claims stated. #prodraxis connect 15:01, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Got it! I can try to see if I can rustle up more secondary sources. There is the biography in the introduction to the book compilation of his writings and Korean websites I can use as citations for the "Early Life," "Education," "Early Work in Paris," and "Awards" sections, though I'm not too sure why the "Publications" section would need a citation since that is a list of his published books? Dadadoenjang (talk) 15:13, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- As for the "publications" section just to make sure the information is 100% verifiable I think it would be good to add citations just to be safe - after all, articles such as Featured Article J.K. Rowling have citations for publications. #prodraxis connect 15:17, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Got it, I just added citations for that section as well as all of the sections you mentioned, and any other ones where I could add citations for secondary sources. Let me know if you think the added sources suffice! Dadadoenjang (talk) 17:13, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Nice job! I just think you need to add some more citations to the section about the Korean Avant Garde Association and after that the citation tag can be removed. Also, try to find more nonprimary sources for the "Major themes" section. #prodraxis connect 17:15, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- I added an additional source, and repeated the citation above for the AG section to make it clear that the second paragraph is drawing from the same source. But I strongly believe that the "major themes" section does not require more non-primary sources since the purpose of the section is to explain the different themes in his writing as he understood them. I added a few other secondary sources that either summarize his thoughts in a similar way to act as additional support, as well as one that critiques his ideas in order to add information about the larger context in which he was writing in, but the bulk of the information should be coming from the text he wrote himself. Given that this would be the way I would write academic papers, I'm really not sure why you want to add more secondary sources there. If he was not a writer, perhaps additional sources would make sense, but his writing is the best source of his ideas as he conceived of them. Dadadoenjang (talk) 18:25, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Nice job! I just think you need to add some more citations to the section about the Korean Avant Garde Association and after that the citation tag can be removed. Also, try to find more nonprimary sources for the "Major themes" section. #prodraxis connect 17:15, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Got it, I just added citations for that section as well as all of the sections you mentioned, and any other ones where I could add citations for secondary sources. Let me know if you think the added sources suffice! Dadadoenjang (talk) 17:13, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- As for the "publications" section just to make sure the information is 100% verifiable I think it would be good to add citations just to be safe - after all, articles such as Featured Article J.K. Rowling have citations for publications. #prodraxis connect 15:17, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Got it! I can try to see if I can rustle up more secondary sources. There is the biography in the introduction to the book compilation of his writings and Korean websites I can use as citations for the "Early Life," "Education," "Early Work in Paris," and "Awards" sections, though I'm not too sure why the "Publications" section would need a citation since that is a list of his published books? Dadadoenjang (talk) 15:13, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Dadadoenjang: First things first, I would like to see more sources that are independent of Lee Yil, as Wikipedia prefers secondary over primary sources. The external sources seem reliable to me, but I am not too sure about the heavy use of primary sources here. The sections titled "Early Life", "Education", "Early Work in Paris" under Careers, as well as "Publications" and "Awards" also needs more sources to back up the claims stated. #prodraxis connect 15:01, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- I can definitely look for some more Korean sources, but just to clarify, do you think the current set of sources I have are not reliable? They're all published books and journals from major publishers. Or is it that there are not enough sources written by someone other than the subject of the article? I cited him quite heavily since he is a published writer himself for sections focused on themes in his writing, but also added some citations from scholars who have accessed and examined his work as a critic. I'm still not too sure what kind of sources you want me and others editing the page to add. Dadadoenjang (talk) 14:56, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
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I am posting this on my talk page as I cannot comment on your talk page because I cannot have permission to create it due to the page title containing pseudo-Latin characters, which are blacklisted from creation. Can you please change your user name if possible to avoid running into this blacklist issue in the future? #prodraxis connect 02:20, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
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Fumikas Sagisavas and temperature changing
Hi, did you remember Fumikas Sagisavas, who I'd like to give them last rope?
Fumikasย Sagisavasย (talkย ยท contribs) keeps changing and adding temperature data on innumerous of pages, I'm not sure whether are they correct or disruptive. Some suspected one are on 2011 North American heat wave, Special:Diff/1175064261 and Remich. -Lemonakaโ 06:06, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Lemonaka: yeah I remember them..... as for the temperature data I'm afraid I don't have enough expertise on the topic area to answer your question. Perhaps you can ask the folks at WP:WPWX. #prodraxis connect 12:35, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
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