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Speedy deletion nomination of ATEasy
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[[[User:WikiRonnie|WikiRonnie]] (talk)}Why was it delete? what copyright? Where is the ATEasy page? What can I do to restore correct the problem? I'm new to Wikipidia.
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I placed the page in my user page for review. please let me know what's wrong.
14:01, 23 September 2011 Panyd (talk | contribs) deleted "ATEasy" (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.irazoo.com/InterestingTopics/ateasy.aspx). irazoo.comn is not a st a search engine. So what copyright issue is there?
- To be honest, I can't see one. The text of the article is at irazoo, but it's quoting the Wikipedia article. There is another issue for the article, however. A version was deleted at AfD, so it must be shown now that this version is either not the same, or has addressed the problems. I'll just look into that now. Peridon (talk) 18:55, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
- Hey there, firstly, let me say, my mistake. The website does certainly appear to have been quoting Wikipedia. However, looking through it this does appear to be a recreation of deletion material by consensus. Please do correct me again if I am wrong. Once again, my apologies for my mistake. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 18:59, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
- I'd be obliged if you'd have a look at the differences, too. (I've made that same mistake myself - easy to do if you're distracted or hungry...) To me they two versions don't look all that different, but I can't see why it's been described as promotional, and there's at least one decent looking link. Make that at least a couple. The refs are all to Geotest and I wouldn't describe them as refs. Could be wrong. Feeling in need of pizza and listening to Laura Marling doesn't help concentration. Peridon (talk) 19:09, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
- {WikiRonnie (talk) 19:26, 23 September 2011 (UTC)} What about the external links? They are IEEE and Nasa Tech Brief magazine. These are all reliable sources. I don't think it promotional since no benefits of using the product are mentioned, just facts that are known to me being an ATEasy user for many years. Any suggestion to restore instead of deleting it? Thanks.
- Just a point of style - could you sign at the end of your posts not the start? It's not compulsory, so far as I know, but it makes it easier to see. I'm hoping Panyd will come back in - she's been adminning longer than me. Peridon (talk) 19:51, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
- She has - on her page. I agree with what she says. Try to get away from the old wording, and make the refs to something non-company. Avoid 'download' things, and see if you can find free versions of the IEEEE(EE?)lost count... ones. Not compulsory - easier for those of us with wallets that say 'Property of E. Scrooge' on them prefer free. Good luck. Put DRAFT at the top. Peridon (talk) 20:01, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
- There is nothing wrong with this or the original article. Panyd deleted it with the wrong argument. I can change the reference to a mirror site (http://geotest.fileburst.com/downloads/ATEasy8GettingStarted.pdf ) and the page it a but but I think it good as is. It's really discouraging... {WikiRonnie (talk) 19:38, 26 September 2011 (UTC)}
- She has - on her page. I agree with what she says. Try to get away from the old wording, and make the refs to something non-company. Avoid 'download' things, and see if you can find free versions of the IEEEE(EE?)lost count... ones. Not compulsory - easier for those of us with wallets that say 'Property of E. Scrooge' on them prefer free. Good luck. Put DRAFT at the top. Peridon (talk) 20:01, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
- Just a point of style - could you sign at the end of your posts not the start? It's not compulsory, so far as I know, but it makes it easier to see. I'm hoping Panyd will come back in - she's been adminning longer than me. Peridon (talk) 19:51, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
- {WikiRonnie (talk) 19:26, 23 September 2011 (UTC)} What about the external links? They are IEEE and Nasa Tech Brief magazine. These are all reliable sources. I don't think it promotional since no benefits of using the product are mentioned, just facts that are known to me being an ATEasy user for many years. Any suggestion to restore instead of deleting it? Thanks.
- I'd be obliged if you'd have a look at the differences, too. (I've made that same mistake myself - easy to do if you're distracted or hungry...) To me they two versions don't look all that different, but I can't see why it's been described as promotional, and there's at least one decent looking link. Make that at least a couple. The refs are all to Geotest and I wouldn't describe them as refs. Could be wrong. Feeling in need of pizza and listening to Laura Marling doesn't help concentration. Peridon (talk) 19:09, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
- Hey there, firstly, let me say, my mistake. The website does certainly appear to have been quoting Wikipedia. However, looking through it this does appear to be a recreation of deletion material by consensus. Please do correct me again if I am wrong. Once again, my apologies for my mistake. PanydThe muffin is not subtle 18:59, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
I made some change to the [ATEasy] page currently located under my user profile. I reword, added some content, added DRAFT on top, and provided a references to the actual manuals instead of downloads. Can I post the page back? How do I get others to review? {WikiRonnie (talk) 18:03, 28 September 2011 (UTC)}
- OK. Don't. You didn't take on board about references. (I'm sure I mentioned refs - I'm ALWAYS going on about refs.) Read WP:RS and work out what's wrong with your article (well, maybe the first thing that's wrong - I haven't looked further...) Peridon (talk) 18:49, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
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- {WikiRonnie} I did. Check the reference section. This is really frustrating....Help, anyone?
- Well, the sources are primary. Wikipedia articles should be sourced from secondary sources where possible. Primary sources are usually not as reliable nor as neutral as secondary sources. In addition, primary sources can almost never be used to demonstrate that the article subject is notable enough for a Wikipedia article. --Chris (talk) 19:13, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- These are manuals that describes a programming language and a product that belong to a company. It is exactly as in LabView, similar product. I could not find any other third party manuals. There are several other link in the article. What do you suggest? {{helpme}}
- You don't need to put a helpme tag after each question when you are in a conversation with someone. Doing so alerts other editors to that you are seeking help, but you didn't post a request anyone can help you with. If you do still need assistance, please start a new topic with a new helpme tag and a concise summary of what you need assistance with. I've read through this, and Peridon and Crazycomputers have both made it very clear what's wrong with the article. It lacks secondary sources. This mean someone other than the company producing the software publishing something about it, such as a review in a software magazine. If independent reliable sources never talk about this project yet, it is not notable, and it will be a waste of time to continue to keep trying to get a Wikipedia article about it accepted. It's too soon; the product hasn't made a name for itself yet. It's like a garage band or a game that you and your friends made up. "Not famous", as it were. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ Contrib. 13:28, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- {WikiRonnie}I disagree. There are several links in the article (article is in my my user page) to magazines (see [1] and the product got several awards from magazines (Best In Test and was even a candidate to Best in Time award from Test & Measurement World magazine (see [2]). I tried to place just facts in the article and avoid commercial promotion. If what I wrote is incorrect and we place the article I'm sure other people that are in the industry would respond and provide their feedback..(is it not what Wikipedia is all about). In the ATEasy page I placed several external links, are these links to external magazines not good enough? Is IEEE not good external link??? searching in Google there are 25K results for ATEasy (not sure they all relevant, but don't think there is another thing called ATEasy)...
- You don't need to put a helpme tag after each question when you are in a conversation with someone. Doing so alerts other editors to that you are seeking help, but you didn't post a request anyone can help you with. If you do still need assistance, please start a new topic with a new helpme tag and a concise summary of what you need assistance with. I've read through this, and Peridon and Crazycomputers have both made it very clear what's wrong with the article. It lacks secondary sources. This mean someone other than the company producing the software publishing something about it, such as a review in a software magazine. If independent reliable sources never talk about this project yet, it is not notable, and it will be a waste of time to continue to keep trying to get a Wikipedia article about it accepted. It's too soon; the product hasn't made a name for itself yet. It's like a garage band or a game that you and your friends made up. "Not famous", as it were. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ Contrib. 13:28, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- These are manuals that describes a programming language and a product that belong to a company. It is exactly as in LabView, similar product. I could not find any other third party manuals. There are several other link in the article. What do you suggest? {{helpme}}
- Well, the sources are primary. Wikipedia articles should be sourced from secondary sources where possible. Primary sources are usually not as reliable nor as neutral as secondary sources. In addition, primary sources can almost never be used to demonstrate that the article subject is notable enough for a Wikipedia article. --Chris (talk) 19:13, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- {WikiRonnie} I did. Check the reference section. This is really frustrating....Help, anyone?
Speedy deletion nomination of Marvin Test Solutions
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Your submission at Articles for creation: ATEasy (September 17)
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. CatcherStorm talk 15:29, 27 March 2017 (UTC)