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Wikidata weekly summary #267

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ISBNs on Jimbo's talk page

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Hallo Rich, While I'm flattered to be considered "a core wikipedian", can I point out that you talk about "the talk page" but don't seem to mention which talk page! A link would be useful.

Actually, although I can remember being very opposed to the removal of magic links when first encountering the decision, I've now got quite used to adding the template whenever I cite an ISBN, and don't feel so strongly about it. It always did seem a rather strange "magic". But we will need a bot or something which will continue to clean up new articles and new edits in the future, to make sure that all ISBNs continue to be linked.

There are other things I'm much more concerned about - as far as I know Virtual Editor is still unusable because the edit window hides the text of the article so that if you want to add categories or DEFAULTSORT based on article content you can't easily do so; and the mobile version of Wikipedia lacks a lot of key features I need for editing, or even reading, the encyclopedia. Then there's the way the AfC process upsets and confuses good faith new editors, and so on. The great ISBN non-debate seems a lost cause now, though it does raise the question of how interested parties can best be made aware of discussions in which they'd take an interest, without closely monitoring lots of technical discussion lists of no interest to them. I'm not sure we'll ever solve that one. PamD 21:57, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I contributed at VPP, archived as Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_131#Removal_of_ISBN_magic_links, and there was a brief discussion at Wikipedia_talk:ISBN#Future_of_magic_links. PamD 22:08, 4 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the feedback. I have added a link to the talk page in question.
I'm hoping we can pull back the ISBN issue, it might be like turning an oil tanker...
And you are certainly right about the other issues. I have had to sigh and concede on many items because they have been widely advertised - and I have just missed them - but in some cases, including this one, the community's comments seem to have been ignored, or at least discounted. The typeface refresh was another good (or bad) example.
It's also notable that the Mediawiki wiki still uses the community unfriendly talk page software (flow?) - perhaps that could be changed if more community involvement is wanted.
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:17, 4 July 2017 (UTC).[reply]

Not a typo

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Just fyi: I removed an example usage you added to Template:Not a typo/doc as not helpful. Cordially, Mathglot (talk) 02:44, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for merging of Template:Catalan name

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Template:Catalan name has been nominated for merging with Template:Spanish name. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 17:04, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – July 2017

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2017).

Administrator changes

added Happyme22Dragons flight
removed Zad68

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Miscellaneous

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  • Did you know: On 29 June 2017, there were 1,261 administrators on the English Wikipedia – the exact number of administrators as there were ten years ago on 29 June 2007. Since that time, the English Wikipedia has grown from 1.85 million articles to over 5.43 million.

On general fixes

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[1]. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:23, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #268

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Villon

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Thanks for your recent edit at François Villon. Can you tell me which BCA edition of Pseudonyms you were using (will help resolution of page number)? Here's[1] an augmented ref. In any case, must be one of these. The original French corresponding to "more than a father" is from Le Testament and is given here.[2] The Clarke ref is correct, but since it's about pseudonyms and not mostly about Villon, a better source would be nice. The same quote with the same translation is present on page 78 of Fein-1997, already present in the article. If you don't have access to it, I can add it if you wish. Mathglot (talk) 23:59, 10 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Clarke, Joseph F. (1981). Pseudonyms: An Imaginative Sense of Fact. London: Book Club Associates. OCLC 5139561. Retrieved 10 July 2017.
  2. ^ Villon, François (2013). "The Testament". Poems (in French). Translated by Georgi, David. Evanston, Illinois: Northwestern University Press. p. 84. ISBN 978-0-8101-2878-1. OCLC 921910344. Retrieved 10 July 2017. Item, et a mon plus que pere, Maistre Guillaume de Villon / Qui esté m'a plus doulx que mere
By all means add the additional ref. There is only one 1981 version listed. I will check for the sub-title later. Clarke is surprisingly accurate, I have only found one entry that looks wrong and I have nearly completed a first pass through the entire book. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 07:47, 11 July 2017 (UTC).[reply]
The 1981 was the online version I found; the version you used in the article was 1977, and there's more than one of those. Sorry for the confusion, and I'll add the other ref. Mathglot (talk) 07:55, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I suspect there is only one such edition. For example https://www.worldcat.org/title/pseudonyms/oclc/830226383?referer=di&ht=edition is just those with Polish tags, and the pagination matches both (the penultimate page of the introduction is xiii, the last page un-numbered, followed by two un-numbered pages then pp. 3-252, and a few blank leaves). OCLC are a very messy data-set. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:15, 11 July 2017 (UTC).[reply]
Yes, I see what you mean. So, if I change your ref thus:
does this fairly represent the source you used?   Cordially, Mathglot (talk) 01:55, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
By all means. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 11:33, 12 July 2017 (UTC).[reply]

Ze template, vat does eet do?

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What exactly does Template:Ze do and how on Earth do you use it? It has no documentation subpage as is customary. You created it, so I reckon that you would have the best idea of what it actually does and how to use it. Also, seeing as it is to do with pronouns, in what way does its use case differ from Template:Gender? --EnronEvolvedMy Talk Page 17:03, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It does a lot less than {{Gender}}, but it can be used on a user's talk page like this:-
I wonder if the owner of this page knew what {{Ze}} was doing when they created this template?
I wonder if the owner of this page knew what ze was doing when they created this template?
It was created as an illustration as much as anything else.
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:00, 12 July 2017 (UTC).[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Default

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Template:Default has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 15:01, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 15 July 2017

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Wikidata weekly summary #269

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Nomination for deletion of Template:¬

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Template:¬ has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 20:28, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bots Newsletter, July 2017

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Bots Newsletter, July 2017

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Thank you! edited by: Headbomb 17:12, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


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Case opened

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You were recently listed as a party to or recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Maglioladitis 2. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Maglioladitis 2/Evidence. Please add your evidence by August 6, 2017, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Maglioladitis 2/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Miniapolis 17:09, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #270

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Editing at case page

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Hi Rich Farmbrough

I have reverted your edit at the above case page for the following reasons.

The Arbitration case pages are intended to be verbatim copies (typos and all) of the original case request and as such should not be edited. The page itself is also only meant to be edited by Arbitrator or Clerk (obvious exceptions such as reverting vandalism etc. still apply).

If you believe something on the case page needs adjusting please bring it to the attention of the clerks on the case talkpage and we will action where necessary to do so. Amortias (T)(C) 21:26, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of 2016 Hurghada attack for deletion

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2016 Hurghada attack is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2016 Hurghada attack until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 23:33, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Notifications loading issue

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https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5:%D8%A5%D8%B4%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AA

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 10:57, 26 July 2017 (UTC).[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Year in country category/parent 1/Albania

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Template:Year in country category/parent 1/Albania has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 13:38, 27 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ISBNs

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I was not in favour of the change from magic words to templates. I even contacted the peron who was doing the conversion in the beginning. After my disscussions with Mediawiki programmers I notied is last cause to try to win this. Visual Editor team and other wanted the magic links to vanish. Just for the story: When I noticed that we hav to do that change I thought it was a good chance to have 3-4 bots to make general fixes to all pages too and save us time. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:53, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red's new initiative: 1day1woman

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A kitten for you!

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For constantly fixing my spelling errors!

Magioladitis (talk) 18:43, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

August 2017 at Women in Red

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Welcome to Women in Red's August 2017 worldwide online editathons.


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A new WiR initiative starting in August

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Introducing...
WiR's new initaitve: 1day1woman for worldwide online coverage
Facilitated by Women in Red
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  • Feel free to add articles in other languages too

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Wikidata weekly summary #271

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